Sympathy for ILJ?

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no fucking sympathy for a person who did terrible shit on her own volition. if she was truly a good person, she wouldn't of done this shit in the first place.

she should be in a mental institution with no internet access. let her reeeeeeee without any hopes of getting out. that should be her ultimate punishment.
 
This thing isn't worth your sympathy, she dug her own grave and willingly jumped in. Can't be guilty when she literally handed us the shovel and told us to finish the job.
 
If she's fucked up but has agency and is responsible for her actions then she belongs in a treatment facility and I don't feel bad for her.

If she's so fucked up that she bears no responsibility for her actions then she belongs in a treatment facility and I don't feel bad for her. The public attention is warranted in either case. You can't just run around torturing animals and being a rapey scumbag. It doesn't matter why you're doing it.
 
I will say to this what I would've said about CC himself.

She is high functioning enough to do all the things she has done with full awareness of said things. She is not stupid. She's at best a female version of Dennis from Always Sunny. A massive sociopath who's own sociopathy cripples them to human interaction, gives them an undeserved hubris and narcissism (see Women for further examples), and means they don't think in the same way a normal person does. Which often leads them to being incredibly incompetent. Having to get by on just their basic attractiveness and nothing else. But they still have a sense of rationality. They find ways to justify their own behavior and upbringing is no excuse.

I know her tits are big but you can't fix her, bro.
 
I respect your sentiments, but they're tragically wasted.

This woman has been reported multiple times for harming animals and fellow students alike with no repercussions, likely due to her parents' wealth.

We tend to villainize people too easily today, but there can be no mistake after what she did to Roman, who just wanted to be left alone, for years.

Bella is a villain and always will be. Just as she kills innocent animals because she can get away with it, she would and wants to move onto killing innocent persons if she could get away with it.

I have no regrets about opposing her. The true moral failure is on everyone who could but didn't oppose her until now.
I do understand and mostly agree, but with intervention as a means of opposing her. I thinking it's sickening that she has a family with money that hasn't stepped in, got her committed to a psychiatric hospital, and tried to stop her slide into becoming a psycho.

I personally believe the only reason that a family with the means wouldn't do that is because they have a personal stake in her not getting better, too much risk of her spilling the beans about a childhood of neglect and abuse.

I know if ILJ was my kid I would move hell and high water to get her the psychiatric care she needed and wouldn't give a damn if that meant I was called shittest dad of the year by everyone on the planet.

That's where the sympathy comes from.
 
I have zero sympathy for animal abusers, I don't give a fuck how hard her childhood was. It's no excuse. Plenty of people have had shitty childhoods but most of them don't boil hamsters alive.
 
I do understand and mostly agree, but with intervention as a means of opposing her. I thinking it's sickening that she has a family with money that hasn't stepped in, got her committed to a psychiatric hospital, and tried to stop her slide into becoming a psycho.

I personally believe the only reason that a family with the means wouldn't do that is because they have a personal stake in her not getting better, too much risk of her spilling the beans about a childhood of neglect and abuse.

I know if ILJ was my kid I would move hell and high water to get her the psychiatric care she needed and wouldn't give a damn if that meant I was called shittest dad of the year by everyone on the planet.

That's where the sympathy comes from.
the whole michael raped bella shit has no speculation . more than likely, he was hyper focused on being a billionaire look at all his startups . and was convinced by bella that his darling was a good little girl. he might still think shes innocent . so maybe she learned to get her attention by being a piece of shit . but it doesnt matter no sympathy for a rich bitch who tortures others, she could have done so much with her life but instead she chose torture .
 
You should get out more, or probably stop looking at her thread if you think reading and being horrified at her behavior is somehow being hard on her. Perhaps you're doing something that's not being observant? I don't see how your mind can be preoccupied with her.

She's done some horrible things and simply got away with it time and time again, it isn't like someone forced her into it. She's done these things of her own volition.

Unless you're somehow trying to ruin her life yourself you should not have any sympathy for her.
Perhaps you can take a break from the farms if you somehow feel guilty to read her thread.
 
She isn't some dumb autistic child that doesn't know any better. She's a grown woman that makes her own choices.

She chose to slowly boil a small defenseless animal. She laughed as it screamed in pain and slowly died in agony. Then she later said it was the "happiest day of her life".

No sympathy.
Exactly this, she's not a child that accidentally held a bird too tightly, she's a 20 year old woman boiling hamsters for her own amusement/pleasure. She knows exactly what she's doing, that's what makes it unforgivable.
 
I can be perfectly empathetic to her actions the exact moment she's cognizant of the harm she's done. No sooner. I emphasize with the dead animals and those who have had to put up with her shit!

This is also how I feel about anti-vaxxers ending up in a hospital, with the bonus that they're using up perfectly good bed space on their dipshittery.

The line must be drawn here.
 
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No. None at all. She is a monster. Yes, how the monster was made is tragic, but there's still a monster and I feel no more sympathy for it than I do for Bundy, or Corll, or Stafford.
Want to add here that bad people are unreliable narrators for how they became such. A lot of really bad people, serial killers and shit, will claim all kinds of abuse but once investigated there is never any evidence of it.

Could it have happened on the DL? Sure. But when someone does that kind of thing is them being a liar really something you wouldn't expect?
 
No. She's been 18-20 throughout all this. An adult. Fuck society's excuses for young adults now. Bella fully knew what she was doing.
 
It has been really interesting reading the replies and, believe it or not, the outrage expressed about ILJ's actions is something I do share.

My question about being too hard on her was not about the exposing of information, nor the memes, nor the rampant mockery (all of which are a-okay for a fun gal like ILJ) but the reddit-esque calls to action and the endless moralizing.

Maybe I'm just too much of a bleeding-heart liberal, but the more I hear about ILJ the more I believe that while she, like CWC, had no business being part of society, the question of how responsible she is for her actions means that she should be pitied rather than hated, and treated as a retard-nutcase rather than someone who is intentionally evil.

Sympathy for ILJ doesn't mean no sympathy for her victims, they deserve so much more, but it does mean that we should perhaps feel a little sad that another human life is wasted, and that the people who were supposed to have nurtured her to adulthood have, at best, neglected her psychological interests, and at worst actively abused her. That doesn't mean she should not be held responsible, just that the whole thing is kind of a tragedy.

These are exactly the kind of posts I've made about CWC, so it's not a case of simping...unless you're going to accuse me of chasing some sweet un-clit, but just reflecting my belief that if more young people were in hospital then less older people would end up in prison.
 
I know if ILJ was my kid I would move hell and high water to get her the psychiatric care she needed and wouldn't give a damn if that meant I was called shittest dad of the year by everyone on the planet.

Isabella is someone where psychiatric care won't help.

The only way someone who is like Isabella will change is if she wants to.
 
It has been really interesting reading the replies and, believe it or not, the outrage expressed about ILJ's actions is something I do share.

My question about being too hard on her was not about the exposing of information, nor the memes, nor the rampant mockery (all of which are a-okay for a fun gal like ILJ) but the reddit-esque calls to action and the endless moralizing.

Maybe I'm just too much of a bleeding-heart liberal, but the more I hear about ILJ the more I believe that while she, like CWC, had no business being part of society, the question of how responsible she is for her actions means that she should be pitied rather than hated, and treated as a retard-nutcase rather than someone who is intentionally evil.

Sympathy for ILJ doesn't mean no sympathy for her victims, they deserve so much more, but it does mean that we should perhaps feel a little sad that another human life is wasted, and that the people who were supposed to have nurtured her to adulthood have, at best, neglected her psychological interests, and at worst actively abused her. That doesn't mean she should not be held responsible, just that the whole thing is kind of a tragedy.

These are exactly the kind of posts I've made about CWC, so it's not a case of simping...unless you're going to accuse me of chasing some sweet un-clit, but just reflecting my belief that if more young people were in hospital then less older people would end up in prison.
Give me one sympathetic fact about Bella, and speculation about what may or may not have happened during her childhood doesn't count.

Show me one instance of Bella showing genuine sympathy to another living creature.

Do those things and we can debate on whether or not Bella deserves sympathy. Until then, fuck her.
 
Give me one sympathetic fact about Bella, and speculation about what may or may not have happened during her childhood doesn't count.
This is all conditional speculation, that was the point of my question. If I didn't make clear that I was speculating I apologize. I went through some of the red-flags and highlighted them, just to show this is something I did give a bit of thought to. (Not to mention the animal abuse link I share earlier.)

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Show me one instance of Bella showing genuine sympathy to another living creature.

Do those things and we can debate on whether or not Bella deserves sympathy. Until then, fuck her.
I think this is a really interesting question. Can you only be sympatric to people who have redeeming qualities? I'd say no, having pity even for the monstrous is part of the way I approach life, but that doesn't mean that means excusing their actions, nor does it mean that it's the right way to approach life.
 
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