STRUGGLES BEING ME| PART 2 7/4/2018

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She'd have to look into getting some sort of Personal Care Attendant/Home Health Aide/CNA (depending on what Kentucky allows) to help her at home with basic needs, assuming she could find somewhere to live. A CNA would be preferable since they could take care of more medical-related tasks she'd undoubtedly need but a PCA or HHA would work in a pinch. I think PCA's are more limited, though, and HHA's can help more with bathing, toileting, dressing, etc. while PCA's take care of the homemaking/Walmart activities. She could pay for them on her own but it gets expensive paying someone to come wipe your ass and hose you down twice a day.

Ideally she'd wind up in a long-term acute care facility with bariatric equipment (walkers, wheelchairs, beds, scales, lifts, commodes) designed to withstand her weight and staff (RNs, LPNs, CNAs, etc.) trained to deal with her and any medical condition that should/probably will arise. She'd need insurance because those facilities are expensive but by that point she'd qualify for Medicaid and wouldn't have to pay a dime. She'd probably have to go on a waiting list for a facility, though, since beds are a hot commodity so she'd likely wind up in a hospital for some ignored condition only to be stuck there sucking up resources waiting for placement until a facility could take her in.

Purely hypothetical, of course :optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:

I've been wondering about this too, but in the sense of right now being (somewhat, kind of) more independent. I see a lot of people tell AL to get healthcare, and I know healthcare is a very changeable issue in the US that has a lot of factors to it, but if AL ever got out of her own way for a second an tried to get it, could she even qualify for healthcare? She's not employed so she can't get it through her job and would a provider take her at that weight?

Years back on the biggest loser, I remember a contestant saying he needed to be 238 to qualify and that was his goal. Wouldn't providers just press the big red button of 'pre-existing conditions and way way fat besides' and refuse? Excuse the ignorance, I don't know the system, but base this on the :optimistic: assumption of her not being bed-bound.
 
Okay I know this is probably :autism::autism::autism: but I really do hope big AL actually gets help. Whether it be therapy or bariatric surgery. She's responsible for never knowing what it's like to not live a normal life due to her weight and at 500 lbs, trying out different diets and failing every other day isn't going to do anything. I hope she actually takes the steps to go see Dr. Nowzaradan because changing her diet is not working and never will at this rate lmao

:autism: AL i know you read here, go on google and search TLC My 600 lb life casting, they'd probably love to have you on the show :autism:

ETA: She never will contact them though, she thinks her struggles are normal 'fat girl' struggles
 
Holy Jebus, the last thing this world needs is jeans that fit 520-lb land whales. Jeans are one of those clothing items that look good only when you’re normal weight. Fashion designers don’t produce clothing this big for the simple reason that it’s impossible to make it look good. It’d be a waste of everyone’s time and money.

I don’t see the point of this series. If you don’t like your weight, go on a diet. That’s about it.
 
@Tiny Clanger, let me help a Brit out. America was built on the principles of independence and freedom from the government. That means that we were free to pursue our own happiness, but also had to pay the consequences of our behavior. You didn’t have to have a job, but then you didn’t eat. You didn’t have to save money, but then you didn’t get to retire.

Some of that changed in the 30s after the Great Depression. Roosevelt put social programs into place, welfare, social security, etc. The US has been getting progressively more dependent on government programs, which is good or bad depending on your political viewpoint.

But certain things are still the responsibility of the individual. Health insurance is one of those things although many states and the Obama presidency tried to change that (and still are). Most people get free or discounted health insurance as a perk/benefit with their job, and that’s why people like Amber should work pain or no, as they have to offer it to everybody, unhealthy or healthy. But if you don’t have a job, you have to purchase it on your own. For Amber, it would be very expensive as she’s unhealthy and is obviously going to cost the insurance company more. She likely can’t even get it.

Disability and what counts as disabled is decided by individual states. All states have disabled programs for people with illnesses such as cancer, or who were born with a deformity or were in an accident or what have you. They usually get a small monthly stipend and qualify for other services such as health aids, etc and there are group homes or institutions for those who can’t care for themselves, people with severe mental deficits for example.

In Kentucky, obesity doesn’t count as a disability. In some it might, but not where she is. Amber is completely on her own. If her friends disappear, she’s going to have to figure out how to get to the bottom of that washer on her own just like any one of us would. This is why she’s so incredibly stupid to keep eating. At least those people on My 600 pound life have families and kids/parents to care for them, even if they are enablers and feeders. Amber has Becky but if she left, she could end up with no help.

Now, if she ends up with no YouTube income she can go on welfare and I’m sure there are other programs for her: but it’s job placement, etc. But typically, you cannot have any income or assets to qualify. It’s the same with the elderly-they get social security but if they don’t have long-term insurance then a memory care facility is crazy expensive. They’ll take every penny the senior has and their house before its paid for by Medicare.

While I never believed Amber made 10k a month, she’s clearly making enough from YouTube to pay rent for two, maintain a car and eat out three times a day. So with that kind of income, she’s not getting any government help if her friends ghost. And she shouldn’t. She did this to herself, the only way she’ll climb out is to have to. Even then, I don’t hold out hope.

Out of the 30 problems she’ll mention, I bet she never thought of this. Her problems are all immediate and shallow. She doesn’t even know what her real problems are. One hospitalization, and she’s broke for years.
 
The level of delusion on this gorl is unbelievable. It must be exhausting to constantly be on diets that she purposely fails. I kinda want to see her give up so she can have her time to shine on my 600lb life.

Also anyone know how much Becky weighs now? I saw her on Hamber's 4th of July post and she looks massive
 
Thanks @Barbarella, @sweaty chafing thighs - it's largely the same as here; apart from healthcare you don't get anything much unless you're on your uppers, and if you need senior healthcare it's only funded after nearly all assets, including your house, are exhausted. I think you're allowed maybe £8,000 savings, but that's the threshold.

The problem with seeing these things from outside is that we get a very distorted view. And it works both ways - I worked for a US company a looong time ago and they were petrified of employment costs. They were pretty thrilled to find out that, overall, their contributions were less than the equivalent private health insurance of US employees.

There will always be those who can wring any system dry, and those are what we hear about. For instance, a humungous monster in Britain became widely reviled; beached in his bed at 700lbs plus, full care (his family disowned him when he sold his mother's house out from under her) housing, everything provided. His carers would feed him, clean him, look after his house, do everything then as soon as they left for the night he'd order in massive quantities of sludge, paid for with benefits. Eventually he had WLS on the NHS....then sued because "I wasn't warned about the dangers of obesity." Twenty years looking after the fat fuck and he sues. Those are the stories that get out but they tell a distorted narrative, and we get that same distortion from this side. The feckless father of twenty kids all funded by various US programmes is good telly, but it's only a fraction of the overall picture.

I get the feeling Amber would be very good at manipulating that system though. I think she can run a few more years squeezing others but after that she'll land on the system and she'll have enough health problems by then that it won't matter if obesity doesn't qualify. She has no concept of helping herself, even for these small, surface minutiae; her first port-of-call is always "I need help" then squats there like a malignant Buddha awaiting fulfillment. There are plenty of people that can't reach up or down due to their height - they just buy a grab-stick. But our gorl has no concept of helping herself achieve the tiniest things...and that may be the saddest thing about her. She's been told she's good at things she's awful at - Vogons cry over her poetry - and been provided with everything, rather than having to find solutions so she never gets that achievement buzz when an obstacle, however small, is overcome. The epitome of participation-trophy culture....and its end result.
 
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a little off topic but her ex has the same name as my current SO and saying his name just reminds me of Big AL now...:cryblood:
 
I've been wondering about this too, but in the sense of right now being (somewhat, kind of) more independent. I see a lot of people tell AL to get healthcare, and I know healthcare is a very changeable issue in the US that has a lot of factors to it, but if AL ever got out of her own way for a second an tried to get it, could she even qualify for healthcare? She's not employed so she can't get it through her job and would a provider take her at that weight?

Years back on the biggest loser, I remember a contestant saying he needed to be 238 to qualify and that was his goal. Wouldn't providers just press the big red button of 'pre-existing conditions and way way fat besides' and refuse? Excuse the ignorance, I don't know the system, but base this on the :optimistic: assumption of her not being bed-bound.

Pre-existing conditions (like being a colossal fat ass and everything that comes with it) don't play a factor in health insurance anymore the way that they used to. In terms of purchasing insurance in general, as mentioned above she's definitely earning too much - sorry if I wasn't clear in my initial statement - to qualify for any sort of disability or subsidy to offset individual insurance that you can purchase here through the Marketplace (the government helps people purchase insurance through the Marketplace and offsets the cost through tax credits if they qualify). She couldn't just 'get by' with catastrophic insurance with a $6-10,000 deductible, she'd need legitimate health insurance that would cover regular doctor visits, prescriptions, and specialists visits once those referrals start flying. That'd set her back a couple of hundred dollars a month.

A provider would likely accept her with some hesitation, but they'd accept her none the less provided she has the insurance. They're far less likely to accept Medicaid or self pay patients because self pay patients are shitty about paying unless they cough up the money upfront and Medicaid likes to drag their feet with payment. Still, she'd be a nightmare patient without even factoring in her shitty personality. She needs referrals to multiple specialists to rule out a lot of obesity-related health issues and she'd most likely be a non-compliant patient anyway so whatever poor physician accepts her would give her ass the boot pretty quickly rather than deal with her games.

ETA: Sorry - clarity, it's early. In short, yes. You can purchase insurance without a job/being disabled here. Hope that helps!
 
In short, yes. You can purchase insurance without a job/being disabled here. Hope that helps!

Yes, that does help, thanks. I knew you could (in theory) purchase private health insurance, and that the money AL claims to make would more than cover even a fairly high premium, but I was wondering if the reason she was dragging her feet was actually not that she's a raging moron, but actually that she's simply too fat for people to accept the risk.

But no, moron it is.
 
Yes, that does help, thanks. I knew you could (in theory) purchase private health insurance, and that the money AL claims to make would more than cover even a fairly high premium, but I was wondering if the reason she was dragging her feet was actually not that she's a raging moron, but actually that she's simply too fat for people to accept the risk.

But no, moron it is.
Moron she is, I wont argue there but she's also lying about how much she makes by a lot. She makes enough to split rent with Ricky and eat out 2+ times a day and buy cheap tacky shit from Wal-Mart but lezbereal, that's not spending $10,000/mo and there's no way she's saving any of it, she has no self-control. She needs us to believe she makes $10,000/mo and YouTube was the correct career move for her. She makes just enough to fund this eating herself to death lifestyle but none of that is going to be put aside for health insurance and she can't afford bolth. I'd wager she makes about 2k/mo give or take but we'll never know for sure.
 
I'd wager she makes about 2k/mo give or take but we'll never know for sure.

I'd say that's right, hence me saying 'claims'. I'm waiting for a video where she tries to bullshit her way through why she doesn't have health insurance at her supposedly level of income (because she has Super Great Lying Skills That Cannot Be Seen Through) but I don't think she'd ever seriously address it as an issue because she has literally no excuse without admitting to her previous lies. She may do it one day for the clicks (after her current series she clearly has no shame in that regard) but we'd never get the honest reason.
 
could she even qualify for healthcare? She's not employed so she can't get it through her job and would a provider take her at that weight?

I HAVE A LIMITED UNDERSTANDING AS I DON'T NEED IT....BUT UNDER OBAMA CARE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS CAN'T BE USED TO DENY COVERAGE OR RAISE RATES.....I THINK. THERE IS A CERTAIN ENROLLMENT PERIOD WHICH HAS PASSED AND SHE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT TILL OPEN ENROLLMENT IN THE FALL. THERE IS ALSO A TAX PENALTY FOR NOT HAVING HEALTH INSURANCE...BUT I GUESS PEOPLE CAN 'CLAIM' THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT AND IT CAN BE WAIVED. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE. (and I'm not yelling, just used caps for ease of seeing response)
 
I'd say that's right, hence me saying 'claims'. I'm waiting for a video where she tries to bullshit her way through why she doesn't have health insurance at her supposedly level of income (because she has Super Great Lying Skills That Cannot Be Seen Through) but I don't think she'd ever seriously address it as an issue because she has literally no excuse without admitting to her previous lies. She may do it one day for the clicks (after her current series she clearly has no shame in that regard) but we'd never get the honest reason.
The way she's talking about getting her own place now I want to see her fumble her way through the home buying process and try to get a loan on what she makes on YouTube to watch sit-down videos where she cries about how she can't get a loan because she's a fat lesbian youtuber and they're discriminating against her when really she has no stable income and a bad credit score.
 
You are correct. The ACA made it compulsory for insurance companies to cover folks with pre-existing conditions and that includes death fat. There is a tax penalty for not carrying insurance, but if you make below a certain amount it will be waived. I can't recall what that amount is, but it's pretty low. If she's making even half of what she claims she's making then she would be paying that penalty. HOWEVER, we all know bitch didn't file taxes before this year and that's where the penalty is taken. I remember during the last enrollment period for the ACA people were telling her to enroll in any plan just as long as she was insured because we all know she's headed straight to bedbound town, but she just ignored it. She'll have to wait until the next enrollment period and who the fuck knows what Congress will do to the ACA in that time. If they repeal the ACA, then she's fucked. There is no insurance company on Earth that would cover her without the government requiring it.
 
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