Stranger Things

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The big octopus monster’s still out there and apparently so is Matthew Modine’s character.

There’s stuff to do, but I agree this concept doesn’t have much more mileage in it. Apparently it’s going to end after its fourth or fifth season which sounds about right.

Fourth or fifth?! I could have sworn I read a while ago this was the final season.

There was hardly any gas left in the tank for the disappointing retread that was last season. What the fuck do they think they're going to do for two more seasons? All the kids will be in their 20s by the time they finish this shit.

Jay from RLM was right: they had one good idea, and they don't have any more.
 
Sooo... currently watching Season 3, at the 7th episode halfway through. . . and boy. Oh. Boy.

Frankly, I have no clue where to go in a third season. Seems like there's hardly anything left to do. It feels like anything they can do is backtracking.
I hope they don't reintroduce some secret government conspiracy thingy. Similarly, I don't know if they can make another "other side creature pops up and causes problems" plot without it feeling stale, since it'll be the third time they do that.
*sigh*

It starts out pretty neat but by Episode 3 or so it turns into a mess. I have no clue just what the fuck the Duffers smoked, but it must have been past expiration date. If you haven't watched, fairly warned be ye of spoilers.
So, the Soviet Union tries to build a device to open a path to the other side, in Hawkin, Dustin returns from his trip to a camp for smart kids. He sets up a radio tower to introduce his friends to his gf, but they are impatient and leave him on some hilltop. This leads to a lengthy subplot of him moping.
Mike is hanging out with Eleven, kissing, which pisses off Hopper, who ends up threatening Mike that he's not allowed to meet Eleven unless he lies to her about not being able to meet her, creating a misunderstanding between Mike and Eleven. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
Max hangs out with Eleven, gets into some sort of conflict with Lucas over god knows what. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
While Lucas and Mike are annoyed with their girlfriends, Will is annoyed with them not really spending time with him. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
Hopper tries to date Joyce, but things happen and Joyce misses her date with Hopper. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
Jon and Nancy work for a newspaper as interns, but Nancy is mad that she's treated badly by these evil white men, so she investigates when she gets a call about a sick rat, pretending to be a journalist, hoping to impress the guys at the Newspaper. Somewhere down the line, she and Jon get fired. This leads to a very short subplot of them arguing.
And just to emphasize, the guys in the newspaper are all jerks to her. Like, "WHERE'S THE MUSTARD ON MY SANDWICH?! FIX THIS AT ONCE!" Jerks. Consantly laughing at her and mocking her and berating her in an over the top manner.

Sounds weird? Gets even more ridiculous.
Joyce realizes that the magnets in her kitchen and her workplace stopped being magnetic. She investigates by talking to the science teacher (which is why she misses her date with Hopper), she figures this means the government is back and doing evil shit with the rift to the other side.
Meanwhile, Steve works in an icecream parlor in a mall, wearing a silly sailor-uniform, which he's apparently wearing for the entire goddamn run of the season. It feels like they wanted to shame the character even more, tbh. He has a co-worker named Robin, a blond chick that constantly mocks him as he fails to flirt with girls that buy icecream.
After the other kids left Dustin on his own, he managed to intercept a russian broadcast over the radio. He decides to solve this mystery and become a hero, to show it to his friends who ditched him and employs Steve to help him. Robin also starts to help out of boredom and not only does she translate the russian text (despite not even knowing any russian) she also discovers the meaning of the very crpytic code language.
(It's something along the lines of "The silvercat eats. It's would be nice going to China. When the blue and yellow meet in the west..." and Steve realizes that a melody in the background is the same as the melody he heard in the mall, so yeah, there's a secret hidden russian base under the Hawkin mall. Full with armed guards using AK's while standing around in the open. Steve, Robin and Dustin decide to break into a storeroom and employ Lucas' sassy little sister (and I will forever hate the Duffers for this).

And it gets weirder.

The Russians awoke the part of the mind-flayer that was still stuck in Hawkin, which infects a shitton of rats, which melt into a squid-thing that then manages to catch Max' brother, turn him into a slave, who then starts to abduct people, who catches other people and turns them into a slave army for the mind flayer.
Steve, Dustin, Robin and Lucas' sister infiltrate the Russian base under the mall, Steve and Robin get caught, Steve is beaten up and both get drugged, Dustin and Lucas' sister free them. Robin stated earlier that she sat behind Steve for a whole year in school and she said in a rather emotional tone that she doubts he even knew her and so on and she emphasizes how she always looked at him and stuff.
Eleven, Max, Lucas, Mike, Will, Nancy and Jon work towards finding out who's possessed by the mindflayer.
Joyce and Hopper go on a merry trip, after sort of infiltrating the russian base under some random farm (cause there's a network of interconnected russian bases under Hawkin now), they abduct some random russian dude while being tracked by a russian Terminator, so Joyce and Hopper just pretty much ignore the peril that their kids (and everyone else) might be in, so they can take a little trip to Illinois to get a translator, so they can talk to russian guy. And they constantly argue. Constantly. Endlessly. JFC.
Steve and Robin have a little talk, where Steve admits that he is in love with Robin and she opens up to him. She's a lesbian and only looked at him cause the girl she was into at the time had a crush on him and she was jealous. Fuck this season. I swear to god, this show has a sadistic fascination with shaming Steve.

TL;DR:
Whenever the plot needs someone to have an idea or to do something to movie it forward... 90% of the time, it's a female character and if there is no character present, the show will just introduce a new one to do this. The male characters usually just get punched, fail to do something. While shit is going south in a really dramatic way, the boys bicker and bitch about Remake vs Original while Eleven tries to find Dustin... it's wildly inappropriate.

I could go into much more detail, but that would take way too much time. It's not terrible, but it's not particularly good either.
S1 was ripe with mystery and strange shit going on and the audience being on the edge of their seats to find out what was going on and how it'd tie together.
The tone in this season is radically different. Much more humor (which sometimes works and oftentimes doesn't really), there is no mystery to speak of, tbh. If you cut out the few gorey bits, the show could be a Nickelodean Show for the Sat-AM timeslot.
It's just a mess.
 
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Stranger Things Season 3 is a disappointment. It's a rehash of old ideas from other properties, Dustin is supposed to 13 or 14 and still has no front teeth, the kids act like they are in elementary school and the kissing scenes are awkward as hell.

And since I know how SJW the actor who plays the sheriff is, he doesn’t come off as convincing.

Stranger things has jumped the shark.
 
Sooo... currently watching Season 3, at the 7th episode halfway through. . . and boy. Oh. Boy.


*sigh*

It starts out pretty neat but by Episode 3 or so it turns into a mess. I have no clue just what the fuck the Duffers smoked, but it must have been past expiration date. If you haven't watched, fairly warned be ye of spoilers.
So, the Soviet Union tries to build a device to open a path to the other side, in Hawkin, Dustin returns from his trip to a camp for smart kids. He sets up a radio tower to introduce his friends to his gf, but they are impatient and leave him on some hilltop. This leads to a lengthy subplot of him moping.
Mike is hanging out with Eleven, kissing, which pisses off Hopper, who ends up threatening Mike that he's not allowed to meet Eleven unless he lies to her about not being able to meet her, creating a misunderstanding between Mike and Eleven. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
Max hangs out with Eleven, gets into some sort of conflict with Lucas over god knows what. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
While Lucas and Mike are annoyed with their girlfriends, Will is annoyed with them not really spending time with him. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
Hopper tries to date Joyce, but things happen and Joyce misses her date with Hopper. This leads to a lengthy subplot of them arguing.
Jon and Nancy work for a newspaper as interns, but Nancy is mad that she's treated badly by these evil white men, so she investigates when she gets a call about a sick rat, pretending to be a journalist, hoping to impress the guys at the Newspaper. Somewhere down the line, she and Jon get fired. This leads to a very short subplot of them arguing.
And just to emphasize, the guys in the newspaper are all jerks to her. Like, "WHERE'S THE MUSTARD ON MY SANDWICH?! FIX THIS AT ONCE!" Jerks. Consantly laughing at her and mocking her and berating her in an over the top manner.

Sounds weird? Gets even more ridiculous.
Joyce realizes that the magnets in her kitchen and her workplace stopped being magnetic. She investigates by talking to the science teacher (which is why she misses her date with Hopper), she figures this means the government is back and doing evil shit with the rift to the other side.
Meanwhile, Steve works in an icecream parlor in a mall, wearing a silly sailor-uniform, which he's apparently wearing for the entire goddamn run of the season. It feels like they wanted to shame the character even more, tbh. He has a co-worker named Robin, a blond chick that constantly mocks him as he fails to flirt with girls that buy icecream.
After the other kids left Dustin on his own, he managed to intercept a russian broadcast over the radio. He decides to solve this mystery and become a hero, to show it to his friends who ditched him and employs Steve to help him. Robin also starts to help out of boredom and not only does she translate the russian text (despite not even knowing any russian) she also discovers the meaning of the very crpytic code language.
(It's something along the lines of "The silvercat eats. It's would be nice going to China. When the blue and yellow meet in the west..." and Steve realizes that a melody in the background is the same as the melody he heard in the mall, so yeah, there's a secret hidden russian base under the Hawkin mall. Full with armed guards using AK's while standing around in the open. Steve, Robin and Dustin decide to break into a storeroom and employ Lucas' sassy little sister (and I will forever hate the Duffers for this).

And it gets weirder.

The Russians awoke the part of the mind-flayer that was still stuck in Hawkin, which infects a shitton of rats, which melt into a squid-thing that then manages to catch Max' brother, turn him into a slave, who then starts to abduct people, who catches other people and turns them into a slave army for the mind flayer.
Steve, Dustin, Robin and Lucas' sister infiltrate the Russian base under the mall, Steve and Robin get caught, Steve is beaten up and both get drugged, Dustin and Lucas' sister free them. Robin stated earlier that she sat behind Steve for a whole year in school and she said in a rather emotional tone that she doubts he even knew her and so on and she emphasizes how she always looked at him and stuff.
Eleven, Max, Lucas, Mike, Will, Nancy and Jon work towards finding out who's possessed by the mindflayer.
Joyce and Hopper go on a merry trip, after sort of infiltrating the russian base under some random farm (cause there's a network of interconnected russian bases under Hawkin now), they abduct some random russian dude while being tracked by a russian Terminator, so Joyce and Hopper just pretty much ignore the peril that their kids (and everyone else) might be in, so they can take a little trip to Illinois to get a translator, so they can talk to russian guy. And they constantly argue. Constantly. Endlessly. JFC.
Steve and Robin have a little talk, where Steve admits that he is in love with Robin and she opens up to him. She's a lesbian and only looked at him cause the girl she was into at the time had a crush on him and she was jealous. Fuck this season.

TL;DR:
Whenever the plot needs someone to have an idea or to do something to movie it forward... 90% of the time, it's a female character and if there is no character present, the show will just introduce a new one to do this. The male characters usually just get punched, fail to do something. While shit is going south in a really dramatic way, the boys bicker and bitch about Remake vs Original while Eleven tries to find Dustin... it's wildly inappropriate.

I could go into much more detail, but that would take way too much time. It's not terrible, but it's not particularly good either.
S1 was ripe with mystery and strange shit going on and the audience being on the edge of their seats to find out what was going on and how it'd tie together.
The tone in this season is radically different. Much more humor (which sometimes works and oftentimes doesn't really), there is no mystery to speak of, tbh. If you cut out the few gorey bits, the show could be a Nickelodean Show for the Sat-AM timeslot.
It's just a mess.
Glad to know I'm not missing anything.
 
There's no mystery or dark atmosphere in this show. There's a few scenes where it kinda sorta goes into that direction, but it never really reaches it. Nowhere near the atmosphere of the first season. Everything is colorful and happy and there's always time for an awkward joke, even when the characters should be shitting bricks.

Did I mention the Russians in the secret base under the mall all wear russian uniforms, can not speak any english and wave around AKs?
Even the Terminator-guy speaks in a blatant russian accent. How is this supposed to make sense? How is this meant to be secretive? Mind you, supposedly this massive subterranean base was built in less than a year, too. It's terrible.


Also, as a short addendum:
There's only 1.5 episodes left and there is just nothing near the suspense of the 1st or even 2nd season.
2 Wasn't perfect, but 3 is just a wide miss. It's servicable, but almost all characters spend at least 2 episodes being angry at each other. It's boring and annoying. And they spend time bickering over this nonsense way after they know that shit is going down.
In some ways, it feels more like a parody of itself, complete with a russian Terminator that is compared to Schwarzenegger by one of the show's characters, even.
 
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I dunno, I kind of liked it, like a lot.

First, I do admit that Nancy's plot was garbage, and the whole 'never let society bottom text you' speech was insufferable, and I just hate how the show tried to show her as being in the right when Jonathan was clearly the person with the clear point, though that's a problem I've had since season one. I'm especially annoyed as this was meant to be the plot inspired by Fletch, which is an awesome movie and book, but she does like, two misleads. It honestly would have worked better if her plot was the Russian one (from a sleuthing and Fletch perspective) and Dustin's gang was investigating the rats and stuff.

In relation to the Russians, while stupid as all hell, I feel it worked as it's the kind of stupid schlock I'd expect from a Cold War thriller thing, which works as Hopper has always been in the conspiracy thriller camp, so a Russian invasion would be the next "logical" step. It also plays well into Joyce being a crazy lady.

I do admit that the tension was broken at times due to forced comedy, something that you can't really fault the show for as it's fucking every where now days (though still annoying), it when the tension worked, it worked, the Billy stuff in the first two episodes, and the waiting in fear in the last as key examples. I do wish the climactic fight had more tension in it, more focus on how screwed they'd be with the ammo perhaps, or maybe Ell more desperately trying to remove the control over Billy as examples.

I really liked the fair stuff, having a battle in a funhouse was a lot of fun.

I'm not sure if Suzy actually being real or not real would be more surprising as if she is real it's kind of obvious for a twist, and if she's not real than it would confirm the suspicions of everyone. I think in writing it how they did it was a lose lose scenario.

Did Will maybe being gay seem really weird to anyone else? Like he was, well pleased isn't the right word, that a girl was crying at his funeral, who he later danced with at the Winter prom or something in season 2. It doesn't quite add up to me that he suddenly doesn't like girls.

I am pretty cool with the new chick being a lesbian as it subverts a typical love plot, although they could have just done it with her not being interested. She was a ton of fun and I'm looking forward to more of her next season.

In relation to the boys bickering at inopportune times, it felt realistic to me, as someone who has those type of friends. And besides, I never particularly cared for the kid characters so any breakaway from their character is a meh to me
Finally, who wants to call that Hopper isn't dead? We didn't see a body, or the disintegration, which to me says that he's trapped in the Upside down or something. Potentially as an antagonist for next season.

So yeah I liked it, not as much as earlier season but it was good.
 
There's no mystery or dark atmosphere in this show. There's a few scenes where it kinda sorta goes into that direction, but it never really reaches it. Nowhere near the atmosphere of the first season. Everything is colorful and happy and there's always time for an awkward joke, even when the characters should be shitting bricks.

Did I mention the Russians in the secret base under the mall all wear russian uniforms, can not speak any english and wave around AKs?
Even the Terminator-guy speaks in a blatant russian accent. How is this supposed to make sense? How is this meant to be secretive? Mind you, supposedly this massive subterranean base was built in less than a year, too. It's terrible.
Reading that spoiler just hurt my head! I'm better off re-watching "Russkies" again!
 
I also liked it for the most part. Season one is still definitely the only standout season and the only great one, but I've enjoyed S2&3 as popcorn entertainment, like a MCU film. The Russian stuff didn't really bother me, I thought it was meant to invoke the over-the-top Russian antagonist of shitty action movies. What did bother me was:

1) The constant relationship drama. If it were just the Joyce and Hopper stuff I probably wouldn't mind but throw in needless drama between Mike and Eleven, plus even Nancy and John for a time, and it quickly wears thin and becomes overbearing.

2) While I probably didn't think it was as big as problem as others, the male characters being useless a lot of the times and/or in the wrong about whatever's happening was annoying at times. The one time it really bothered me is when Mike and Max are arguing about Eleven using her powers too much, with Mike being worried it's hurting her, and ultimately it's made out to be like Mike is wrong to be worried. El's nose bleeds (sometimes pretty badly) when she's using her powers, obviously that blood comes from somewhere you re.tarded ginger.

Hopper's obviously not dead. He didn't leave behind a pile of goo like the others disintegrated by the 'key'. Then there's also the credits scene with the Russian mentioning 'the American'. I wonder if they'll bring back that group of experiments related to Eleven from S2 to help her regain her powers in S4.
 
In relation to the Russians, while stupid as all hell, I feel it worked as it's the kind of stupid schlock I'd expect from a Cold War thriller thing, which works as Hopper has always been in the conspiracy thriller camp, so a Russian invasion would be the next "logical" step. It also plays well into Joyce being a crazy lady.
The thing is, "Schlock" isn't what I associate Stranger Things with, tbh. Season 1 was pretty neatly based on stuff like MKUltra, now we have "secret russians under our mall - it's more likely than you think". Might as well throw moon nazis into the mix next season. It sucks and is way too dumb to fit into a show like this. There's a difference between actual conspiracies that actually happened and tinfoil-hat-bullshit conspiritard junk. This is the latter to me.
In any other show, I would love this, in Stranger Things, it's a major step down and simply contemplating the logistics of just building this underground lab without anyone noticing makes my head spin. And that's not even touching upon the problem of manning that whole thing with people wearing russian uniforms and AKs.
It's like the US Army set up all their Manhattan Project facilities in Kansai, right under the Japanese emperor's nose - and getting away with it until they blow up a major city.
Everything about this subplot is stupid, down to the secret code. I guess this was one of the Goonies-inspired things, to have a secret code that leads Dustin and his gang to the base. Why would these russkies use a code that is this easily decipherable?

Russian spies that poke around the Hawkin area to look for Ell would have been great. Throw in Numbers Stations (y'know, something that actually exists. To this day!), the point is: they went with an utterly nonsensical plot element and treated it in the most asinine way and that saddens me.

I also disliked how Joyce went into Paranoia overdrive over a few magnets. I mean, sure, there has been stuff going on that warrants paranoia, but something about this felt forced. It felt like the Duffers said "Joyce acts weird and crazy. Why? Doesn't matter, even when they perfectly know what the fuck is going on, she should act cooky and crazy."
Also the moment she realizes that she was right, she doesn't spare a single line of dialogue in relation to her kids' safety. She just goes along with Hopper and Smirnoff to that crazy dude. Just when that's over does she go "Oh wait, yeah, my kids are in the same town as the evil russian scientists, who want to crack open the dimension-hole again."

Did Will maybe being gay seem really weird to anyone else? Like he was, well pleased isn't the right word, that a girl was crying at his funeral, who he later danced with at the Winter prom or something in season 2. It doesn't quite add up to me that he suddenly doesn't like girls.
Is he though? In the translation it wasn't that clear whether Will isn't yet into girls or if he's not into girls at all. Or if it's just Mike running his mouth and insulting his friend out of frustration.

I am pretty cool with the new chick being a lesbian as it subverts a typical love plot, although they could have just done it with her not being interested. She was a ton of fun and I'm looking forward to more of her next season.
My problem with this is that the previous scene was a clear implication that Robin was into Steve and then they pull the rug under the viewers feet by going "Lolno dum dum, I was disgusted by you, I'm in love with this chick that was in love with you." it came out of nowhere. There was no ambiguity in the previous scene. None. Might as well have Robin start throwing around Russkies with her telecinetic skills and she reveals "Oh yeah, I just so happen to be from the same project as Ell."
It was -like is chic in Hollywood nowadays- a subversion just for subversions sake. I assumed that by the end of the show, Robin would end up Steve's GF, so I would have welcomed a clever twist to avoid this (since it would have been too obvious), but this clearly wasn't it.
It felt lame, out of nowhere and forced.
I really like Robin's character (if they had toned down her ridiculous degree of language skills a little, at least), so it's a shame this happened.
 
I haven't finished this season yet but I am really hoping Will kills himself or turns into a mass shooter or something. This run of episodes is severely lacking in gravity imo

Do you like how the how the ice cream shop girl is able to translate Russian even though she has never studied it and is fluent in languages that aren't even close to it?
 
Damn, but did more than a few of these kids get smashed in the face by the puberty bat. Inevitable, I suppose, who knows maybe that will be incorporated into the storyline.

I wouldn't say the puberty bat, more like the coke bat, since you tend to hear a lot of stories about child actors.

Millie Bobby Brown is 15

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Natalia Dyer is 22
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