Stranger Things

[Internet War Criminal]

Wall.

 

[Maker's Mark]

The Kali reveal feels like a “we don’t know what the fuck we’re doing” move. No one gave a shit about her. IIRC, they were trying to use that whole side episode with her and the group for a spin off show that went nowhere.

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

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Drugs?
Make up?
Soul withering?

Wall.

 

[This ruined Sonic]

One thing I find very interesting is that despite how supposedly woke and progressive this season is, especially around Will's character, it opens up with the scene of Vecna violating young Will. Seriously, look at this scene, you cannot tell me that it's not meant to be a metaphor for child molestation.

And I think we all know that one of the most prevailing stereotypes about gay men is that they're gay because they must've been sexually assaulted by a man as a kid. Now I know that this probably isn't what Duffer brothers are implying (if they were to take ST in that direction, best believe they would be eaten alive by the woke mob); but damn if this interpretation doesn't make my heart ache and make me feel so much more sorry for Will than the stupid "my childhood best friend doesn't want to fuck me because he is in love with my adopted sister" storyline (unless of course they decide to go full Tumblr and reveal that Mike has been gay/bi all along and have him get with Will).

 

[Sasmate]

One thing I find very interesting is that despite how supposedly woke and progressive this season is, especially around Will's character, it opens up with the scene of Vecna violating young Will. Seriously, look at this scene, you cannot tell me that it's not meant to be a metaphor for child molestation.
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And I think we all know that one of the most prevailing stereotypes about gay men is that they're gay because they must've been sexually assaulted by a man as a kid. Now I know that this probably isn't what Duffer brothers are implying (if they were to take ST in that direction, best believe they would be eaten alive by the woke mob); but damn if this interpretation doesn't make my heart ache and make me feel so much more sorry for Will than the stupid "my childhood best friend doesn't want to fuck me because he is in love with my adopted sister" storyline (unless of course they decide to go full Tumblr and reveal that Mike has been gay/bi all along and have him get with Will).

Alphabet people in the entertainment/animation/art industry constantly do this and it is absolutely hilarious because the stereotype is almost always true in real life. It is a very far left thing to constantly shoot yourself in the foot due to conflicting ideals.

P.S. in the end scene where Vecna kidnaps Holly, the camera pans out as the door closes with clapping sounds playing before the music starts. I have seen tons of memes about this as it feels like a an accidental (?) messed up innuendo.

 

[This ruined Sonic]

Alphabet people in the entertainment/animation/art industry constantly do this and it is absolutely hilarious because the stereotype is almost always true in real life. It is a very far left thing to constantly shoot yourself in the foot due to conflicting ideals.

Honestly, I've noticed that best written gay characters seem to have some seriously messed up trauma and more often than not part of that trauma seems to be childhood sexual abuse

 

[P. Barnes’ THOT 2.0]

atp, i just want steve and joyce to live. that's it.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Alphabet people in the entertainment/animation/art industry constantly do this and it is absolutely hilarious because the stereotype is almost always true in real life.

I would imagine it's guaranteed coming out of there considering how infested with sexual abuse Hollywood is. It's exhausting to watch writers and actors from that bughive making noise about portraying the True Gay Experience when they project their own Weinstein casting couch backgrounds into their work as universals.

 

[FatalTater]

I'm now caught up with the show so far, and I look forward to more adventures of elderly teenagers.

 

[Kether]

the worst part is how bad everyone has aged. all the teens are only in their early 20s and everyone thinks they look too old to be playing highschoolers meanwhile Superbad and Adventureland and every other late 2000s teen movie had people in their early 20s play high schoolers and everyone was able to believe it.

zoomers are aging like boomers, and apparently worse than genX

 

[Devil's Avocado]

the worst part is how bad everyone has aged. all the teens are only in their early 20s and everyone thinks they look too old to be playing highschoolers meanwhile Superbad and Adventureland and every other late 2000s teen movie had people in their early 20s play high schoolers and everyone was able to believe it.

zoomers are aging like boomers, and apparently worse than genX

I mentioned it a couple of pages back, but it basically looks like everyone has some kind of drug problem. Some of it is public, like the actors who play Jonathan and Nancy being known cokeheads, but I have a hard time believing "the kids" have walled this hard without seriously indulging in The Hollywood Lifestyle™ from a very young age. The only one who seems alright is Joe Keery, who generally seems to have his shit together and comes across as a total stand-up guy.

 

[Kether]

it really tells you how badly the series itself aged that no one cares about the series finale. everyone seems to be gearing up for those last 4 episodes like its an execution. last season they got Kate Bush playing on top 40 and turned the metal head into a legit star. people even let them get away with breaking it in two because of how good it was and they forgave the stupid bits of the season, like the girl with a dozen quirky siblings. or the stuff with the sheriff in russia.

I mentioned it a couple of pages back, but it basically looks like everyone has some kind of drug problem. Some of it is public, like the actors who play Jonathan and Nancy being known cokeheads, but I have a hard time believing "the kids" have walled this hard without seriously indulging in The Hollywood Lifestyle™ from a very young age. The only one who seems alright is Joe Keery, who generally seems to have his shit together and comes across as a total stand-up guy.

while you might be right, there's enough child and teen stars with drug problems that still could play high schoolers while 22 or 23. so it has to be something else. the make up girlies i watch say its mainly stress related. its why some serial rapists can age incredibly well, they are psychopaths so the stress of getting caught doesn't hurt them, meanwhile you have married men who age like meth addicts because raising kids is rough. hell even drug addicts only age so badly because 1. they're on uppers and 2. they don't know where their next hit it.
i know one woman who's about 40 but because she spent half of those years on opioids she looks like she's still on her parents health insurance. you can age really well if you don't stress out.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I keep hearing bad things about this first drop of episodes, lol. I plan to watch after the holidays, when the whole season is out. I'm not in any rush to watch them, so I might as well just wait for it all to come out.

Here's my take on each season so far: Season 1 is good, season 2 is meh, season 3 is terrible, and season 4 was actually my overall favorite of the bunch. I felt that season 4 had the best pacing, I really like that they finally introduced a main baddie with Vecna (because all of the literally faceless villains from previous seasons was getting really old if you ask me), and it managed to get me more invested in the characters after the previous 2 seasons kind of withered that away for me.

The bad word of mouth is kind of a shame since so many have been anticipating it for so long, but I'm not that invested in the series. I've never had it on this pedestal that so many others have put it on. The show is and always has been overrated, IMO. If the entire final season sucks balls, I think I can just laugh at it and move on pretty quickly. lol.

For the people who have had this as their ride or die tv series, though ... I hope the ending sticks the landing for you.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

“I was thinking of Lost as I was watching it and I was thinking ‘Oh no, we’re gonna be getting mystery after mystery and then by the end we’ll realize they had no idea what the fuck they were doing”

 

[DeadwastePrime]

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Drugs?
Make up?
Soul withering?

different lighting

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I keep hearing bad things about this first drop of episodes, lol. I plan to watch after the holidays, when the whole season is out. I'm not in any rush to watch them, so I might as well just wait for it all to come out.

Here's my take on each season so far: Season 1 is good, season 2 is meh, season 3 is terrible, and season 4 was actually my overall favorite of the bunch. I felt that season 4 had the best pacing, I really like that they finally introduced a main baddie with Vecna (because all of the literally faceless villains from previous seasons was getting really old if you ask me), and it managed to get me more invested in the characters after the previous 2 seasons kind of withered that away for me.

The bad word of mouth is kind of a shame since so many have been anticipating it for so long, but I'm not that invested in the series. I've never had it on this pedestal that so many others have put it on. The show is and always has been overrated, IMO. If the entire final season sucks balls, I think I can just laugh at it and move on pretty quickly. lol.

For the people who have had this as their ride or die tv series, though ... I hope the ending sticks the landing for you.

To be honest the showrunners thinking like you do and taking such opinions as a sign that they are doing well is probably why ST sucks so bad and has never lived up to its potential. Season 4 is just...not good, by virtually any metric. I can understand liking it, no accounting for taste but objectively it's just complete garbage.

 

[SHITTAHS CLOGGED!]

I really don't have much faith in this season in terms of writing. The sole highlight so far was seeing a demogorgon fall through a hole in the floor into barbed wire. I will never get tired of seeing these creatures which tear through military fireteams suddenly become Moe, Larry, and Curly the second they enter a suburban home. I want one to slip on a rollerskate before the season ends.

the worst part is how bad everyone has aged. all the teens are only in their early 20s and everyone thinks they look too old to be playing highschoolers meanwhile Superbad and Adventureland and every other late 2000s teen movie had people in their early 20s play high schoolers and everyone was able to believe it.

zoomers are aging like boomers, and apparently worse than genX

Vaping and legal weed have revived all the aging effects cigarettes used to cause.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

I think that the Duffer Brothers were caught off guard by the success of Season 1, and felt like they had to walk on eggshells around the people involved, leading them to writing sessions where they didn't say 'no' to ideas and characters that only cluttered the story. So many side characters could have been written out without killing them off, but instead, they latch onto the show's identity and drag it down. Perhaps they feared the film actors' guild or that audiences were too attached to certain characters to part with them.

They were also clearly under too much pressure to make the show bigger in scale with each season, when what made the first season suspenseful was its limited scope. Supernatural elements were rare and carefully integrated to create a convincing and unpredictable atmosphere. Many of the original season's effects hold up because they resorted to clever, practical methods with digital enhancements. Now, everything is filmed in front of a bluescreen, whether it's an alien dimension or a normal front yard. It feels cheap and turns a grounded show into a Marvel movie.

Ironically, despite the much lower budget, the Upside Down felt far more real in season 1 than the PS5 backdrops in season 5, because they were real sets that were used sparingly. One reason that Vecna is a beloved villain is that the actor wore a real suit and makeup, which was enhanced in post-production.

 

[Estate]

The sole highlight so far was seeing a demogorgon fall through a hole in the floor into barbed wire.

Here we have an interdimensional demon that can take armed soldiers, in their own base, like it's nothing.
And we hype this last season as super serious, much stakes and all that, so what better thing to do then turn it into a Home Alone movie.
Demogorgons ain't got nothing on the Wet Bandits.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I think that the Duffer Brothers were caught off guard by the success of Season 1, and felt like they had to walk on eggshells around the people involved, leading them to writing sessions where they didn't say 'no' to ideas and characters that only cluttered the story.

It would have just worked so much better if they had stuck to the plan of it being an anthology series. Series 1 is genuinely pretty good and the story of series 4 would actually have worked an awful lot better if it had been that story with a whole new cast of characters. Because the part of the series that's good, the Hawkins based part, was mainly centred on Max, Eddie and Jason wanting to avenge Chrissy. Four characters who weren't in the original. And it's dragged down by the California and Eleven in the bunker storylines.

Even bones of the third series could have worked with a different cast of characters if it was a focus on a young man being taken over by the Upside Down and put on a mission to recruit more and more people. Have the story setting around a new mall destroying old businesses, so you get a cub reporter and a man working in the mall ice-cream shop notice the weirdness of the recruits. Have the same ending with a mall fire cover story, and it has the next season start with with a town still dealing with that tragedy making numerous people ripe for Vecna to exploit their depression.

The previous seasons inform the storyline the following year, but you don't have to have the same cast. If a minor cast member does a particularly good job in one season, by all means make them the focus the following year, so season 2 could have focussed on Steve. But after that, move on and do a new story with a mostly fresh cast.

I don't know if it's ever been a case where a tv show was envisioned to be an anthology, but switched to a continuing storyline and not degraded in quality drastically because of it.