Stranger Things

[Internet War Criminal]

Oh, also, I’m weirded out by just how casual the violence feels… Like, why is Hopper fine with just mowing down soldiers like it’s no big deal? It’s not like they’re meant to be evil. Same thing with Eleven. And why is he ok with her killing them like that? Even if the show goes out and says ‘You’re no ordinary grunt!’ It’s like… yeah, kind of? What do you think a guard for that facility knows about what he’s doing or why he’s doing it? As far as all of them are concerned they are protecting the world form the Upside Down, etc… Only a tiny minority are probably aware of the bad shit going on.

The snapping necks and mowing them down like it’s a Rambo flick is just tonally off with the rest of the series imo.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

It's ok. Watchable, but if it wasn't the final season I wouldn't be overly bothered to watch on.

The casting on the kid playing Holly destroys any suspension of disbelief. She shouldn't be more than eight and they cast a fourteen year old who looks her age. I can accept how old the main cast are, because they are the same actors and they don't go out of their way to make 24 year old cast members act like young teens. But with Holly, they cast a new actor, chose someone way too old and then dress her like someone way too young, with the pigtails and the odd toddler crossed with Rainbow Brite outfit they had her wearing in the Hawkins scenes. All while wearing more make-up than they ever had Max or Eleven wear. It's just weird and jarring.

 

[Crescent Fresh]

It's ok. Watchable, but if it wasn't the final season I wouldn't be overly bothered to watch on.

The casting on the kid playing Holly destroys any suspension of disbelief. She shouldn't be more than eight and they cast a fourteen year old who looks her age. I can accept how old the main cast are, because they are the same actors and they don't go out of their way to make 24 year old cast members act like young teens. But with Holly, they cast a new actor, chose someone way too old and then dress her like someone way too young, with the pigtails and the odd toddler crossed with Rainbow Brite outfit they had her wearing in the Hawkins scenes. All while wearing more make-up than they ever had Max or Eleven wear. It's just weird and jarring.

It’s even weirder because they knew they had to recast her because the twins who played her were now 13, yet instead of going with someone younger… they went the other way?

Literally most of the timeline issues would have been solved with a 3-4 year time jump, yet they decided yes, they’re going to have a jump… of one year instead.

 

[Diabeetus69]

Ok....it looks like a lot of the shit in S5 that doesn't make sense stems from the fact that it is based on information provided in "Stranger Things: The First Shadow" which is a fucking Broadway show in NYC! So, if you didn't pay for a trip to NY and a ticket to the show, you deserve to be confused, peasant.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

I really enjoyed the visuals at the end of episode 4, when they showcase Will's memories from the late 1970s in a Super 8 format. They depict the construction of Fort Byers and Will running in the woods in his wizard outfit. It's so clearly about Will embracing parts of himself he's suppressed as an adult just by looking at it, but the writers felt the need to shoehorn in Robin's earlier spiel over it. Heaven forbid the audience only listen to the ambience while viewing these clips and feel the emotion uninterrupted.

 

[Estate]

Ok....it looks like a lot of the shit in S5 that doesn't make sense stems from the fact that it is based on information provided in "Stranger Things: The First Shadow" which is a fucking Broadway show in NYC! So, if you didn't pay for a trip to NY and a ticket to the show, you deserve to be confused, peasant.

Can you give a few examples?
I'm actually curios what lore is presented there, especially since this show is a very clear example of the writers not knowing what to do and the actors meddling with their own dipshit suggestions (i e Robin)
Part of me feels like it's a mega cope, for when people start to bash the story, and they can point to that show and say "well, you need to see that show to get it, chud!".
It's the Snyder cut all over again.

 

[Maker's Mark]

I just finished part 1 and boy was that a fucking slog to get through. All the aura this show had is completely fucking gone and replaced with Marvel tier slop writing.

Spoiler: Spoilers

-Mrs. Wheeler attacking the demogorgon was very ''le character gets epic moment scene''. I had this spoiled for me via twitter and thought they were actually going to have her beat it, so I was glad that it utterly fucked her up in reality. However, they didn't have the balls to kill off the Wheelers. At least Game of Thrones was willing to kill off characters up to a certain point.

- Will getting superpowers like Eleven and getting his ''epic'' moment at the end was another example of Marvel slop writing. I think he'll sacrifice himself in the end and he dies telling Mike that he loves him. The Duffer Brothers said in an interview before this season dropped that the finale would be very poignant and brings everything full circle. I don't how you can interpret that as anything but something major revolving around Will.

- Robin was annoying as hell.

-Dustin, Jonathan and Steve's spats were annoying. The fucking world is at stake quite literally and Johnathan and Steve are too obsessed with Nancy.

-Speaking of Nancy. She's been girl bossed. Murray accurately explains how retarded putting a tracker in a shell in and wow what do you know, she was right all along. Dumb men lose again.

-Everything with Max in the fourth episode felt like the Duffer brothers have no fucking idea what to do to with the character since they were too chickenshit to kill her last season.

I can't believe that the finale is going to be two fucking hours long. Shit was hard enough to get through as is.

 

[Travoltron]

Preview of Linda Hamilton from the next batch of episodes:

 

[Hepativore]

Preview of Linda Hamilton from the next batch of episodes:
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Is she supposed to be a reference to the Visitors from V, so the show can sneak in another pop culture 80's Easter egg,or what?

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Can you give a few examples?

I checked a synopsis. Some highlights:
- The first contact with the alternate dimension came from the Philadelphia experiment. This is when Brenner first became interested in going there.
- Henry wasn't born with his powers. He had some mishap with government bullshit in Nevada years prior. He went to the upside down and received his powers. Why the fuck he acted like he didn't know about the alternate dimension in season 4 then is a mystery.
- Henry isn't actually in charge. It's heavily implied that the Mind Flayer is making him evil/giving him powers/using him as a vessel to enter Earth.
- He had wacky psychic middle school hijinks with some girl. Joyce and Hopper made cameos.
- All the child experiments from prior seasons, Eleven included, were created when Brenner injected some of Henry's blood into their pregnant mothers.

I thought it was mildly annoying with Robin initially in S3, but now it seems like the show wants to explore both of the fag characters more

God. What happened to season 4 "my sex life is unimportant. The world is ending." Robin?

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

there’s gonna be a Star Wars ‘JOIN ME’ moment too, or something.

Considering how they love throwing 80's references so the normies can go "oooooooooooooooh that is the thing from that one movie!!!!1!!!" I can totally picture a "No Will, I'm your father" moment.
In my case I fucking hate the inconsistent durability on the Demogorgon, one episode shows it tanking .50 cal rounds like they're nothing, the next shows Mike's mom injure it with a broken wine bottle, and even damage it more than the Golf club, then we see Mike overpower one with a shovel, and the next episode again shows them tanking bullets and .50cal like they're nothing.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I still can't get over the utter stupidity of the military in this show. Hawkins should be completely evacuated and locked down and why the fuck is the army's base in the Upside Down located so goddamn far from the entrance point? You'd think they'd build a base right outside the gate instead of one out in the middle of nowhere in some demonic dimension infested with psychic monsters that they have to drive several miles to. And why is there only one gate, there should be several that they can use and build bases around following on from the end of season 4. Duffers love hitting the reset button every season so it feels like there's no real consequences to anything that happened previously.

And yeah Mrs. Wheeler being able to injure the Demogorgon badly enough with a broken wine bottle was some stupid shit. Especially when the damn thing one-shotted Mr. Wheeler almost immediately upon seeing him yet for some reason lets Karen take several swings at it instead of tossing her out the window within half a second of seeing her. And even if you assume that sharp weapons are more effective than blunt ones in this situation then logically the DG should be fucking toast the moment it gets tagged with the Ma Deuce.

Also season 4 and 5 have completely broken the internal consistency of the show. In seasons 1-3 there was an actual reason why the Mind Flayer couldn't just mess around in the real world at will because it required science shenanigans on the human part to give it an opening. But ever since the previous season it has been established that Vecna can just break through at will whenever he feels like it so there's no rhyme or reason to any of his attacks. Stuff just happens because the plot demands it.

 

[Estate]

Why are the actors so fucking ugly? Disgusting mongrels assaulting my eyes every frame.
Why do they talk in metaphors all the time? Did anyone else notice that they felt the need to add metaphors for easily conveyed things? Is this hack writing or just padding?

And the finale for Ep4...bruh
I guess Will wanted to put his penis in that jew kids ass so much, that he awakened his inate sodomite magic.
What disgusting faggotry.
You know, for all my seething hatred of weebs, I would take a thousand japslops with the power of tomodachi over this garbage, fueled by the power of homo lust for man booty.
And, they even have the audacity to release this gay shit during the Christmas holidays, like it's meant to mock the Christmas spirit with this unrelenting nigger faggotry.
I hate them so much, it's unreal.

 

[Travoltron]

Wanting to fuck your childhood friend in the ass is disgusting, not empowering. It's almost like incest. It's crazy that they're actually taking the story in this degenerate direction.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

The modern Netflix model where you take three+ years to make a single season of a show has created a lot of issues, among them being actor contracts. We're not seeing Dustin's mom this season. Not because she's dead or wasn't asked back, but because it turns out you can't guarantee availability for some unspecified time in the next half decade. That awful Wheel of Prime adaptation did the same thing with some actually important characters who just...disappeared for several seasons because their actors couldn't come back. Bring back making shows one year at a time. I've heard of problems on set dictating show plot elements, but this is getting ridiculous.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

I hadn't dipped into this thread since back in June and now glossing over the breakdown of this season yeah I'm glad I wont be watching because they did the one thing I hoped to god they wouldn't was bring back superpajeet from that throw away episode in season 2. Know what that's like? It's like if Carl and the gang from The Walking Dead after a decade of wandering and killing zombies went "hey you know what? Lets go back to that CDC lab in Atlanta where there was that one guy with his super computer working on a cure I bet we'll find answers there".
For those who didn't remember the first season of TWD didn't have their shit together so they just made up some finale where they found some lone scientist at the Atlanta CDC doing research and they ultimately blew the place up and never talked about it again.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

I hadn't dipped into this thread since back in June and now glossing over the breakdown of this season yeah I'm glad I wont be watching because they did the one thing I hoped to god they wouldn't was bring back superpajeet from that throw away episode in season 2. Know what that's like? It's like if Carl and the gang from The Walking Dead after a decade of wandering and killing zombies went "hey you know what? Lets go back to that CDC lab in Atlanta where there was that one guy with his super computer working on a cure I bet we'll find answers there".

It's goofy, too, because even that hated backdoor pilot ends with Eleven leaving Kali to help out Hawkins, as though it's some great tragedy they had to split again. No one particularly wanted to spend more time with her, so if they really wanted to tie up the loose end, they could have had Eleven part with the others to search for surviving lab subjects in the epilogue. I cannot overemphasize how harmful it is to focus so much on side characters when the core cast is in desperate need of purpose.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

I cannot overemphasize how harmful it is to focus so much on side characters when the core cast is in desperate need of purpose.

Hear hear. I don't haaaaate this season so far. It's better than a bunch of other shows lately. But my god it's like the Duffers decided to do random plothole shit with a couple of main characters and the rest of them have settled on "being annoying" as their main goal this year. Robin was really helpful in season 3! And now the only remaining pieces of her personality are "I'm really awkward" and "I'm a lesbian". Dustin's only trait this year is "dour bitch". Nancy's only purpose is "smug bitch". Lucas's purpose is "use shovel and continue really terrible dick joke that stopped being funny long before they dropped it". Joyce's only purpose after the great Russia caper is back to "make confused Winona Ryder faces". Steve and Jonathan almost have a van tracking thing going on, but it always collapses back to "we want to bone Nancy". Hopper and Eleven are at least doing something, thankfully. It's weird and only dubiously makes sense, but it's something.

Also somebody needed to tell Noah Schnapp to fuck off with his Ellen Page "my established character needs to troon out because I as the actress went insane over the summer break" character meddling. Your character definitely needed a purpose beyond "victim", but "my personal dramatic coming out story as an actor" is something you can save for your own arthouse project after this. I'm gay, and I'm more compelled by the universal "I need to grow up and save my family and friends" theme that was RIGHT THERE than your real life inspired "I become telekinetic because my Lesbian Yoda told me to find my inner thirst for dick" story.

 

[Rusty Hinges]

Joyce would have been a better source of marriage advice for Jonathon than creepy Murray. They could even do something heartwarming, such as Jonathon asking her how she would prefer to be proposed to and relaying her response to Hopper for when he proposes to her.

Jonathon should have been the one to help Will unlock his powers, as he has the closest relationship with him, doesn't bow to social expectations, and cares about his well-being. He would be one to recognize the pressure Will is under and tell him it is okay to relax about adulthood, how they always have his back, and to focus on what's important.

It feels as though family drama is grossly underutilized in this season when it once provided the strongest moments in the show. Will's family feels neglected by the narrative when they would provide the greatest payoffs to the story. Even the Wheeler parents are practically ignored after they end up in the hospital, where they clarify early on that they will survive and make full recoveries.

 

[Estate]

Drugs?
Make up?
Soul withering?