Star Wars the Force Awakens

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Big Nasty dijo:
I'm afraid they're just going rehash plots and plot elements from the original movies with the serial numbers filed off.
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So? George Lucas himself shamelessly ripped off his own movies when he made the prequels too. Examples include the Ending of Clone Wars, Dooku's escape from the same movie, and a blooming love being all cribbed from Empire, especially the plot surrounding Han and Leia, but done a lot more clunkily because Lucas apparently can't understand love. Probably because he's impotent and his marriage ended up in nuclear hellfire. The part in Sith where they confront Grievous and Palpatine were lifted from meeting the Emperor in Jedi in design to boot. He cynically shoved in as much as he could from the OG series as well, including attempting to shove Han Solo as a kid and the Falcon early in Sith. He still does this with Chewie and Vader, since that means he can resell those toys.

My main concern is still with the movie being good, since most sequels and what the audience expects is a "same, but different" approach anyway.
 
Big Nasty dijo:
I'm afraid they're just going rehash plots and plot elements from the original movies with the serial numbers filed off.
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This is a concern of mine too - Star Trek Into Darkness (also directed by Abrams) started off good then turned into an extremely shitty rehash of Wrath of Khan so I'm worried The Force Awakens will be a shitty rehash of A New Hope. I mean, think about it - things kick off on a desert planet which might as well be Tatooine and from what I've heard the climax involves a bunch of X-Wings attacking a superweapon. Not to mention the Grand Moff Tarkin and Darth Vader analogues. I just hope they can do new and interesting things with these elements. The fact they have Lawrence Kasdan on board (who is a much more talented writer than anyone Abrams has worked with in the past) makes me more optimistic but I think there's cause for concern.

My other concern is that this will be a Star Trek Generations situation. They'll kill off a beloved main character from the old franchise in a really disappointing way as a means of passing the torch onto a new generation.
 
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Thanks, JJ.

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I like the Cross-guard saber Not!Vader has. Seems like some sorta crazy flaming sword.
 
Just gonna point out that when you first see the Millennium Falcon in the new trailer the music playing is Leia's leitmotif from the original trilogy and in the first trailer Has acts like he's just entered the Falcon after not seeing her for a while. Aaaw, she dumped him and nicked his spaceship.
 
XYZpdq dijo:
I'm comfortable with Disney doing "original trilogy remix" for the first one to make sure they have their chops down before they get into the new material.
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Bringing back Lawrence Kasdan is also the right move.

Whether the rest of it will be any good remains a mystery.

LazarusOwenhart dijo:
Just gonna point out that when you first see the Millennium Falcon in the new trailer the music playing is Leia's leitmotif from the original trilogy and in the first trailer Has acts like he's just entered the Falcon after not seeing her for a while. Aaaw, she dumped him and nicked his spaceship.
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Did he get cucked out of his spaceship by a black man?

#WhiteLivesMatter #BoycottStarWarsVII
 
Personally I think it's going to be amazing. Sure for the first few months after release the internet is going to be stuffed to the gills with holier than thou fanboys screaming to the rafters that it's not Star Wars because it's not the unobtainable mixture of new, fresh storytelling combined with the magical, nostalgic feeling the original trilogy invokes. Once you get past that you realize that Star Wars has been much bigger than one beardy fuckwit and his CG rehashing for a long time. Abrams is a good director and he knows how career punishing it would be if he fucked up Star Wars. From the trailers, it looks right, it's dirty, grimy worn our and old. The New Order's existance is logical and I like the fact that the events of the original trilogy have sorted of faded into legend, at least in the parts of the galaxy where nothing really changed when the Empire fell. Naturally Finn will turn out to be Lando Calrisian's son because there can only be two sith and one black dude in the galaxy at any one time.
 
LazarusOwenhart dijo:
Personally I think it's going to be amazing. Sure for the first few months after release the internet is going to be stuffed to the gills with holier than thou fanboys screaming to the rafters that it's not Star Wars because it's not the unobtainable mixture of new, fresh storytelling combined with the magical, nostalgic feeling the original trilogy invokes.
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I look forward to laughing at those autists and I'm sure we'll get more than one new cow out of the whole thing.
 
The part with Rey spelunking in the crashed Star Destroyer looks really cool. Fortunately, so does everything else in the trailer.
 
AnOminous dijo:
I look forward to laughing at those autists and I'm sure we'll get more than one new cow out of the whole thing.
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We've got one at work. He's a major fanboy and in the seven years I've known him all he's done is sperg about how terrible everything about Star Wars is except for the almost original VHS releases that he has. In the last year he's switched to bemoaning every detail of the new trailer. Nothing is right for him. I'm dreading going to work because this latest trailer is going to make him foam at the mouth.
 
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