Sperg about race realism here - So we can stop shitting up the community watch thread

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

Nevermind the fact that apparently there are plenty of poor whites that are somehow smarter than the smartest blacks yet aren't above them in socioeconomic status

This is household income of the parents not the kids.

 

[Autocrat]

The West African nations didn't have the Catholics and mud was easy to work with and downright practical where they were. No need for massive stonework and also no want.

This is mind bogglingly stupid. 'Many countries in Africa were just as advanced as European countries in the 15th century, they just preferred to live in mud huts without a written language'.
I shouldn't have to point out how fucking stupid this is.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

This is mind bogglingly stupid. 'Many countries in Africa were just as advanced as European countries in the 15th century, they just preferred to live in mud huts without a written language'.
I shouldn't have to point out how fucking stupid this is.

They had Arabic in some parts and the Inca also went without a written language while still achieving impressive feats of organization and engineering.

 

[Autocrat]

They had Arabic in some parts and the Inca also went without a written language while still achieving impressive feats of organization and engineering.

What feats did Sub Saharan Africa achieve?

 

[CheezzyMach]

That's exactly it. White supremacists are lolcows. They constantly jerk themselves off about how superior whites are and how important and special they are for being white when they haven't actually accomplished much themselves. They act like the accomplishments and successes of other white people are their own just by virtue of also being white. Why bother trying to improve yourself and the world around you when you can just claim you're already better than most other people by virtue of your skin color?

If you feel the need to tell everyone you're inherently superior to everyone else just because you happened to be born in a certain group, you probably don't have much else going for you.

Anyone in the US who spergs about racial superiority is a moron. Doesn't matter if they're white,black,brown,red or yellow we're all crossbred mutts.

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Sub saharan Africa had numerous regions almost on par with Europeans when first contact was made and the slave trade began. Mali, Songhai, Ghana, Sokoto and numerous other powers were active and well developed in the region and did well until the scramble for Africa. Even today the main issue of Africa is primarily structural and cultural in nature, not necessarily to do with any inherent disability amongst the people there. As proven by AGCT scores conducted on draftees, marriage rates among the native grown black population of the USA, and the current economic climate seen in Jamaica and throughout the Caribbean besides Haiti people of African descent have potential for greater intellectual pursuit. The main issue is internal and external pressures which have yet to be corrected.

THIS! There is literally no difference between a white trash redneck and ghetto hoodrat.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

What feats did Sub Saharan Africa achieve?

In and of themselves? Not that much. The developed places were basically a component of the Muslim world. They had universities and tradesmen themselves alongside their own social orders to keep as custom. Otherwise, you'd be hard pressed to really tell them apart in terms of development than what you'd see in Arab countries of the time which wasn't far behind in those days.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

It’s not even a debate. The science was settled a long time ago. The fact some of you are trying to argue against it is embarrassing.

If we redefine "science has been settled" in this sentence as "everyone, who dared to oppose were branded as heretics and either silenced or driven out on academia" then yes,

 

[Autocrat]

you'd be hard pressed to really tell them apart in terms of development than what you'd see in Arab countries.

Huh

So they achieved absolutely nothing and yet were somehow close to being as advanced as European societies. Makes sense..

Why are you doing these mental gymnastics?

 

[Unog]

Intelligence is an inheritable trait, same as height. I don't get what the fuss is all about, this is simple shit.

And if you think aggression is an inheritable trait in dogs, such as the famous pitbull breed, I've got bad fucking news for you.

 

[L'Homme de la Lune]

It's a not as much of an "intelligence" problem than it is of an identity one.

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I am very adamant in the belief that if Africans and Native Americans had the same access to resources, agricultural livestock, and competition that Europeans and East Asians had then they would also be on par with those groups.

You are one stupid nigger. Are you seriously implying that European and Asian soils were more favorable to growth than Africa? Never mind the need to fucking blanket your ass 8 months a year. I don't see how the African continent would have hindered the development of its locals in any way, coping nigger commie faggot.

 

[MrTickles]

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Sub saharan Africa had numerous regions almost on par with Europeans when first contact was made and the slave trade began. Mali, Songhai, Ghana, Sokoto and numerous other powers were active and well developed in the region and did well until the scramble for Africa. Even today the main issue of Africa is primarily structural and cultural in nature, not necessarily to do with any inherent disability amongst the people there. As proven by AGCT scores conducted on draftees, marriage rates among the native grown black population of the USA, and the current economic climate seen in Jamaica and throughout the Caribbean besides Haiti people of African descent have potential for greater intellectual pursuit. The main issue is internal and external pressures which have yet to be corrected.

There is no latent infrastructure to account for your claims. No large road networks, no large scale fresh water irrigation projects...Central and south-western native Americans were far more urbanized than any sub-saharan society and even they were pre-classical age compared to Europeans in the 1500's.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

If we redefine "science has been settled" in this sentence as "everyone, who dared to oppose were branded as heretics and either silenced or driven out on academia" then yes,

In anthropology this began with Franz Boas. Where the search for objective truth become a secondary consideration to having a social impact.

If one was conspiratorially minded they might look at the disciples of Boasian anthropology and recognise a pattern.

Boasian anthropology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

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Sub saharan Africa had numerous regions almost on par with Europeans when first contact was made and the slave trade began. Mali, Songhai, Ghana, Sokoto and numerous other powers were active and well developed in the region and did well until the scramble for Africa. Even today the main issue of Africa is primarily structural and cultural in nature, not necessarily to do with any inherent disability amongst the people there. As proven by AGCT scores conducted on draftees, marriage rates among the native grown black population of the USA, and the current economic climate seen in Jamaica and throughout the Caribbean besides Haiti people of African descent have potential for greater intellectual pursuit. The main issue is internal and external pressures which have yet to be corrected.

>when contact was made and slave trade began
ROFL.
I am assuming, that you are referring to the Atlantic slave trade and you are insinuating, that slavery was new thing for Africa and brought about by whites. Newsflash, they had been enslaving each other for thousands of years and continued for long time after evil whitey banned it. It's still widespread in Africa today, where whitey can't meddle.
I also demand reparations for 1.25M europeans sold to slavery in Africa. Descendants of slaves in America should get nothing, since their fate there was objectively better than back home, where males were often killed out of hand, since they were justly considered too aggressive to keep in any significant number by locals, one would go even so far as to demand reparations from them for untold damage and destruction caused to date.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

>when contact was made and slave trade began
ROFL.
I am assuming, that you are referring to the Atlantic slave trade and you are insinuating, that slavery was new thing for Africa and brought about by whites. Newsflash, they had been enslaving each other for thousands of years and continued for long time after evil whitey banned it. It's still widespread in Africa today, where whitey can't meddle.
I also demand reparations for 1.25M europeans sold to slavery in Africa. Descendants of slaves in America should get nothing, since their fate there was objectively better than back home, where males were often killed out of hand, since they were justly considered too aggressive to keep in any significant number by locals, one would go even so far as to demand reparations from them for untold damage and destruction caused to date.

If I know this much stuff about them then of course I know slavery was a thing beforehand. Anybody on this board knows slavery was huge with the arabians and they sold accordingly. I made that statement to provide the context by which I am speaking.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

If I know this much stuff about them then of course I know slavery was a thing beforehand

Press X to doubt.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Huh
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So they achieved absolutely nothing and yet were somehow close to being as advanced as European societies. Makes sense..

Why are you doing these mental gymnastics?

There is no latent infrastructure to account for your claims. No large road networks, no large scale fresh water irrigation projects...Central and south-western native Americans were far more urbanized than any sub-saharan society and even they were pre-classical age compared to Europeans in the 1500's.

The great mosque of Djenne here is an example of exactly what I speak of as an example. It wasn't simply small mud huts and indignants in this area but there were numerous organized societies based in this area. The basic question you believe to be answered here is whether sub saharan Africans can work in organized society and it is answered here and elsewhere with attestation from numerous written sources. We can shit talk and dick measure with every country in the world and some may win and some may lose but this race realist argument does not completely hold water.

 

[Autocrat]

The great mosque of Djenne here is an example of exactly what I speak of as an example. It wasn't simply small mud huts and indignants in this area but there were numerous organized societies based in this area. The basic question you believe to be answered here is whether sub saharan Africans can work in organized society and it is answered here and elsewhere with attestation from numerous written sources. We can shit talk and dick measure with every country in the world and some may win and some may lose but this race realist argument does not completely hold water.

I'm not going to lie, I think that mosque is beautiful. But nothing they were doing was on par with what the more developed world is doing.

>The basic question you believe to be answered here is whether sub saharan Africans can work in organized society

Way to move goal posts lol. I'm saying Europe and Asia had fundamentally better societies than anything in sub saharan Africa. Evidence by what they achieved.
And, you are literally saying in some instances, they just didn't need or want to achieve more. That is a really odd and pathetic cope.

I don't know whether it is something ingrained in their race or if they simply got in a very large bad cultural loop that lead them to produce nothing of value (I lean toward the latter), but I am saying it is one of those. Because it's nearly an entire continent that produced fuckall in over 40 thousand years.

There is no latent infrastructure to account for your claims. No large road networks, no large scale fresh water irrigation projects...Central and south-western native Americans were far more urbanized than any sub-saharan society and even they were pre-classical age compared to Europeans in the 1500's.

His posts make me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. That much denial is offputting.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

I'm not going to lie, I think that mosque is beautiful. But nothing they were doing was on par with what the more developed world is doing.

>The basic question you believe to be answered here is whether sub saharan Africans can work in organized society

Way to move goal posts lol. I'm saying Europe and Asia had fundamentally better societies than anything in sub saharan Africa. Evidence by what they achieved.
And, you are literally saying in some instances, they just didn't need or want to achieve more. That is a really odd and pathetic cope.

I don't know whether it is something ingrained in their race or if they simply got in a very large bad cultural loop that lead them to produce nothing of value (I lean toward the latter), but I am saying it is one of those. Because it's nearly an entire continent that produced fuckall in over 40 thousand years.

The mud being easy to work with wasn't a cope and you just saw an example of something the continent has produced. I will admit it was unfair to shove objectives into this discussion however and I will concede to that point.

 

[Flynt's Missing Pecker]

The great mosque of Djenne here is an example of exactly what I speak of as an example. It wasn't simply small mud huts and indignants in this area but there were numerous organized societies based in this area. The basic question you believe to be answered here is whether sub saharan Africans can work in organized society and it is answered here and elsewhere with attestation from numerous written sources. We can shit talk and dick measure with every country in the world and some may win and some may lose but this race realist argument does not completely hold water.

Interesting example. I looked up this mosque. Turns out the French rebuilt it from ruins in 1906. Which is the picture you presented.

A choice quote from Wikipedia:
French ethnologist Michel Leiris, in his account of travelling through Mali in 1931, states that the new mosque is indeed the work of Europeans. He also says that local people were so unhappy with the new building that they refused to clean it, only doing so when threatened with prison.[12]

Did you really think you could slip this one through?

 

[MelloYello]

The great mosque of Djenne here is an example of exactly what I speak of as an example. It wasn't simply small mud huts

Woah, it's a big mud hut, color me impressed. We wuz architects and shit!

Turns out the French rebuilt it from ruins in 1906.

How embarrassing!