Sony Pictures - or, "How low can a movie studio go?"

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Kari Kamiya dijo:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a documentary about Slenderman, or at least the concept behind it? I swear it was made shortly after the incident of the psycho girls nearly killing their friend, and it's probably much more watchable than whatever Sony's shitting out.
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I know the one you're talking about. I think it was an HBO documentary.
 
Kyria the Great dijo:
It is so bad that I was stunned when Jumanji performed so well.
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After you wrote that, Jumanji has three-peated at number one, which is doubly impressive for a movie that didn't even hit number one until its third weekend (primarily due to Star Wars: The Last Jedi's spectacular collapse after New Year's). Since so many wide release movies open huge but deflate quickly in subsequent weekends, it's quite rare for a wide release movie to open below number one but then get to number one later on during its run.

Frozen was another movie that didn't get to number one until its third weekend, but the asterisk there would be that its first weekend was in limited release, unlike Jumanji, which opened wide. (On Frozen's second weekend but first wide release weekend, it came in at number two against the opening of Hunger Games: Catching Fire.) I don't quite see Jumanji crossing the $400 million mark like Frozen did, but Jumanji seems to have the greatest "legs" of any family movie released since Frozen, and it will quite possibly make it past the $362 million domestic mark which would give it an incredible 10x "multiplier" (total domestic box office divided by domestic opening weekend).

On a side note, did anyone here actually see Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle? Do they play the Guns N' Roses song "Welcome to the Jungle" in a family movie? That is not a kid-friendly song which is why they have to fade out very quickly after Axl sings the lyrics "Welcome to the Jungle" in the trailer.
 
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The worst part of it all is that it's so fucking hard to fuck up Hollywood-level movies. Yeah, people are getting more and more upset at the theater prices and might just as well stay at home an watch Netflix but even then it's actually very rare to actually lose money in box office. People still love going to the movies now and again.

Correct me if I'm wrong but whenever I see news about a shit movie they always make a profit. You really need to go the extra mile and actually put out an extremely expensive movie about walking talking meme smileys or fat SJW ghost hunters to do badly.

Yet somehow, instead of sticking with cheap, safe romantic comedies that a talented writer can create in his sleep and all you need to cast is a couple of young pretty actors that would work for free if they though it'd be their one real entry into big-screen territory.. they keep trying to reboot spider man for the 9th time or come up with the very worst possible idea for a movie instead (:_(

At this point they're either deliberately making fun of us or they're so good beyond any and all semblance of sanity that they absolute deserve to be here.
 
sasazuka dijo:
After you wrote that, Jumanji has three-peated at number one, which is doubly impressive for a movie that didn't even hit number one until its third weekend (primarily due to Star Wars: The Last Jedi's spectacular collapse after New Year's). Since so many wide release movies open huge but deflate quickly in subsequent weekends, it's quite rare for a wide release movie to open below number one but then get to number one later on during its run.
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Then it didn't make that much. The studio's take less on every consecutive weekend when a movie is in theaters. And they get even less overseas. It probably made a tiny profit but it didn't do gangbusters for Sony.

keksz dijo:
The worst part of it all is that it's so fucking hard to fuck up Hollywood-level movies. Yeah, people are getting more and more upset at the theater prices and might just as well stay at home an watch Netflix but even then it's actually very rare to actually lose money in box office. People still love going to the movies now and again.

Correct me if I'm wrong but whenever I see news about a shit movie they always make a profit. You really need to go the extra mile and actually put out an extremely expensive movie about walking talking meme smileys or fat SJW ghost hunters to do badly.

Yet somehow, instead of sticking with cheap, safe romantic comedies that a talented writer can create in his sleep and all you need to cast is a couple of young pretty actors that would work for free if they though it'd be their one real entry into big-screen territory.. they keep trying to reboot spider man for the 9th time or come up with the very worst possible idea for a movie instead (:_(

At this point they're either deliberately making fun of us or they're so good beyond any and all semblance of sanity that they absolute deserve to be here.
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So many things to address.

Bad movies doing well at the box office: it happens but there's a lot of factors involved and by the same token good movies can do badly at the box office.

Why does Hollywood make big blockbusters instead of smaller and safer movies: because of merchandise opportunities. You can't sell toys or t-shirts based on romantic comedies or daring low budget movies. They can off horror movies of course but that market's smaller for obvious reasons.

Trivia: Batman 89 made half a billion dollars for Warner Bros. back in the day. It was the highest grossing film un-adjusted for inflation at that time. Warner Bros. made a billion dollars the same year from Batman merchandise.

It costs almost $20 for a ticket for even a matinee showing these days. I think theaters are slowly going to die off if prices keep rising. The interesting prospect is what happens when it eventually moves to streaming and VOD 100%. Especially when torrenting is so easy.
 
BrunoMattei dijo:
It costs almost $20 for a ticket for even a matinee showing these days. I think theaters are slowly going to die off if prices keep rising. The interesting prospect is what happens when it eventually moves to streaming and VOD 100%. Especially when torrenting is so easy.
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-tfw you live in a place where matinees are $3, and a large popcorn and drink together are $8.
Back to topic, Sony should just stick to making games. But “Into the Soider-Verse” looks promising, probably because Marvel Studios is helping out.
 
One thing I learned about Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle that makes it pretty much the polar opposite of Ghostbusters (2016):

The marketing for Jumanji made it seem like it was a total reboot/remake, but people who've actually seen it tell me it ties in directly with the original movie and continues from where the original movie left off even if it's functionally a reboot from a modern franchise-starter standpoint and also from the "Robin Williams is unfortunately dead now" standpoint.

Compare that to Ghostbusters 2016 whose early trailers led off with "30 years ago, four scientists saved New York", later changed to "four friends" when it was pointed out that Winston Zeddemore wasn't a scientist, which heavily implied the new Ghostbusters movie would be, at the very least, set in the same universe as the 1984 original when it turned out to be a total reboot.

The positive word-of-mouth I've heard from skeptics might actually convince me to see Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle when it hits the screens at the local second-run place, something I wasn't even remotely considering before.
 
sasazuka dijo:
On a side note, did anyone here actually see Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle? Do they play the Guns N' Roses song "Welcome to the Jungle" in a family movie? That is not a kid-friendly song which is why they have to fade out very quickly after Axl sings the lyrics "Welcome to the Jungle" in the trailer.
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I did see it, and yes, the song in its entirety is played, although at the very last like minute or so of the movie into the credits.
I saw the movie last week, I have to admit I actually liked it a decent amount. It's nothing amazing or noteworthy, but it's a pretty fun movie with some actual funny bits in it. The characters have a surprising amount of depth to them too, especially Jack Black's character. Villain wasn't memorable, but the action was good and it was funny. Which was what I paid my ticket for.
Although to be fair, I find this movie kind of not kid-friendly for a family movie. For starters, there's at least two scenes and a few jokes regarding penises (for context, one of the characters is a girl that turns into Jack Black's character when in the game, and you can see where it goes from there), and it goes as explicit as it can without actually showing any nudity.
On the topic of it being a remake:
The movie is in fact a sequel to Jumanji, but other than the first five minutes of the movie, there are extremely little references to the first movie besides some of the animals
 
I recall their Television studio bought Funimation sometime ago, and Funimation seems to be unlikely to stop attacking the consumer base, which the anti-consumer sentiment seeped into 6 things they done now (3 if you count the 3 different episodes of "Miss Kobayashi"'s dub as one whole anti-consumer attack). I've gone dark on anything Funimation has done now, and won't be buying anything of theirs in the current or near future. Also, Sentai Filmworks and Eastern Star are better, anyway.
 
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