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I do find it funny how the people who seem to hate the movie the most are out of touch movie critics and Nintendo Fanboys
Sonic Movie Thread - From a Disastrous Teaser/Trailer to Not That Bad a Movie; Got a Sequel
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Will be watching Sonic 2 so will see if it's good or not
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Knuckles show is still "very early in the works". https://discussingfilm.net/2022/04/...les-and-video-game-films-exclusive-interview/
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This threads shockingly high continues to baffle me whenever I open it. Like god damn it’s just the autistic sonic movies, imao, but I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised considering how Sonic literally shaped the identity of OPL and is responsible for maybe 60% of the furry cows and autism this site has milked much lulz from, maybe it’s a good thing.
Either way both movies are pretty solid kids popcorn flicks and they look to be a step in the right direction for video game movies as a whole, they’re both fun colourful distractions with some decent effects, action and even some funny bits sprinkled in, you could do much, much worse than the Sonic Movie 1 or 2.looking at you space jam 2) They’re pretty’s solid overall and I’m glad someone gave a shit in making them.
Either way both movies are pretty solid kids popcorn flicks and they look to be a step in the right direction for video game movies as a whole, they’re both fun colourful distractions with some decent effects, action and even some funny bits sprinkled in, you could do much, much worse than the Sonic Movie 1 or 2.looking at you space jam 2) They’re pretty’s solid overall and I’m glad someone gave a shit in making them.
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Re: Ken Pender's musings on another lol-suit.
I would try to persuade Kenny-boy to drop the idea if I were his lawyer. Sega could provide some decent counterarguments to his claims for the following reasons.
A) Sega could argue that Enerjak is derivative of the series "super" forms that predate the comic itself by several months. Moreover, the idea of bringing the seven Chaos Emeralds together to have a character go super draws inspiration from Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball series, of which Z was airing in Japan at the time of Sonic the Hedgehog 2's release in November 1992. Notice how Sonic's quills curve upwards in his super form like a Super Saiyan. The onus would be on Ken to prove how Enerjak differs from a super form from a narrative standpoint, of which I doubt he has a legal leg to stand on.
B) Similarly, Sega could argue that Knuckles' father in the films could be derivative of Pachacamac (Tikal's father) from Sonic Adventure due to having similar markings. No can can copyright the idea of a character having a father despite what Ken believes. He wrote parts of the Sonic Adventure adaptation in the comic so he should realize this because he wrote the Knuckles Clan into the book. I doubt that anyone at Sonic Team read the comic around 1997-98 and Ken's echidnas were clearly not inspired by Mesoamerican tribes like their game counterparts.
C) Those panels from Sonic the Hedgehog (1993) #13 say jack shit and Jack left town. Did he even play Sonic the Hedgehog 3, or is he being a disingenuous fuck? (Trick question.) Even if he only watched his son play, he would have known that Sonic and Tails approach on Angel Island in the Tornado is in the game's very introductory cut scene. That story is an extremely loose adaptation of the game, and he has no legal claim to it.
I view Ken as both greedy and egotistical because I think the man sees himself as a creative talent on par with Jack "King" Kirby, but really shot himself in the foot when he wrested the characters from Archie. He cited that Kirby was one of his biggest inspirations, particularly Fantastic Four, on his website in days of yore. It would not be a surprise to me if Ken feels some vindication in doing what Kirby and his estate could not. To put it into context, Marvel and its corporate parents screwed Jack Kirby out of royalties from the characters he created and kept his original art for decades. Hence why he left for DC to create the Fourth World, which was originally a post-Ragnarok extension of Thor (hence the title "New Gods"). Jack died in 1994 without seeing a single cent from his (co-)creations.
The problem with Ken's lawsuit was that he won based on Archie's incompetence since they could not produce the contract that proved that it under work-for-hire. "His" creations are the supporting cast for a character owned by another company and would require SERIOUS repurposing to be commercially viable. The Echidnas and Chameleons in the Lara-Su Chronicles still look like enough like Knuckles and Espio for Sega to slap him with a "cease and desist" letter despite the designs falling in the uncanny valley. One has to wonder if Ken is subconsciously aware of this as the Lara-Su Chronicles is no closer to release despite a decade of promises. Sega is never going to allow his stories to be reprinted due to the lawsuit so he will never see ANY royalties from that, and neither will Scott Fulp (AKA Kent Taylor) who similarly sued Archie over Mammoth Mogul.
I would save myself the time, money, and humiliation.
I would try to persuade Kenny-boy to drop the idea if I were his lawyer. Sega could provide some decent counterarguments to his claims for the following reasons.
A) Sega could argue that Enerjak is derivative of the series "super" forms that predate the comic itself by several months. Moreover, the idea of bringing the seven Chaos Emeralds together to have a character go super draws inspiration from Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball series, of which Z was airing in Japan at the time of Sonic the Hedgehog 2's release in November 1992. Notice how Sonic's quills curve upwards in his super form like a Super Saiyan. The onus would be on Ken to prove how Enerjak differs from a super form from a narrative standpoint, of which I doubt he has a legal leg to stand on.
B) Similarly, Sega could argue that Knuckles' father in the films could be derivative of Pachacamac (Tikal's father) from Sonic Adventure due to having similar markings. No can can copyright the idea of a character having a father despite what Ken believes. He wrote parts of the Sonic Adventure adaptation in the comic so he should realize this because he wrote the Knuckles Clan into the book. I doubt that anyone at Sonic Team read the comic around 1997-98 and Ken's echidnas were clearly not inspired by Mesoamerican tribes like their game counterparts.
C) Those panels from Sonic the Hedgehog (1993) #13 say jack shit and Jack left town. Did he even play Sonic the Hedgehog 3, or is he being a disingenuous fuck? (Trick question.) Even if he only watched his son play, he would have known that Sonic and Tails approach on Angel Island in the Tornado is in the game's very introductory cut scene. That story is an extremely loose adaptation of the game, and he has no legal claim to it.
I view Ken as both greedy and egotistical because I think the man sees himself as a creative talent on par with Jack "King" Kirby, but really shot himself in the foot when he wrested the characters from Archie. He cited that Kirby was one of his biggest inspirations, particularly Fantastic Four, on his website in days of yore. It would not be a surprise to me if Ken feels some vindication in doing what Kirby and his estate could not. To put it into context, Marvel and its corporate parents screwed Jack Kirby out of royalties from the characters he created and kept his original art for decades. Hence why he left for DC to create the Fourth World, which was originally a post-Ragnarok extension of Thor (hence the title "New Gods"). Jack died in 1994 without seeing a single cent from his (co-)creations.
The problem with Ken's lawsuit was that he won based on Archie's incompetence since they could not produce the contract that proved that it under work-for-hire. "His" creations are the supporting cast for a character owned by another company and would require SERIOUS repurposing to be commercially viable. The Echidnas and Chameleons in the Lara-Su Chronicles still look like enough like Knuckles and Espio for Sega to slap him with a "cease and desist" letter despite the designs falling in the uncanny valley. One has to wonder if Ken is subconsciously aware of this as the Lara-Su Chronicles is no closer to release despite a decade of promises. Sega is never going to allow his stories to be reprinted due to the lawsuit so he will never see ANY royalties from that, and neither will Scott Fulp (AKA Kent Taylor) who similarly sued Archie over Mammoth Mogul.
I would save myself the time, money, and humiliation.
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It still baffles me that of all the video game franchises to break the "movie curse", fucking Sonic the Hedgehog is one of the only ones to do it. If SEGA put even half as much effort into the games, the franchise as a whole wouldn't be struggling right now.
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Over 30 or 40 years he was the wild card that broke the chain of bad luck although the seeds were probably planted earlier but sonic was the one who pushed through.
jack Kirby would laugh at Ken right in his face over what he is doing and what he did.
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Came back and Sonic 2 was a good movie and definitely better than the first. The only issue is the human characters that aren’t Eggman, Stone, and GUN since every one of the other scenes with the humans feel like a studio executive wanted them in since they could’ve easily been written out.
Also Sonic calling his cop friend “dad” made me groan and laugh because it reminds me of Sonichu when he calls OPL “Father”
Also Sonic calling his cop friend “dad” made me groan and laugh because it reminds me of Sonichu when he calls OPL “Father”
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At least he didn’t actually say the word “Father”.
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I watched Arlo's Sonic review and holy shit his review is more retarded than Moviebob's
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>"Most Sonic fans are not kids"
A large portion of the people at the screening I went to were families.
>"HURR DURR TAILS HITS KNUCKLES WITH A POLICE CAR, THIS ISN'T A SANIC MOVIE"
Meanwhile, in Sonic Adventure:
Watch this blue Muppet-expy faggot slobber all over the Mario movie's dick when it comes out, no matter what it does.
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In addition: Meanwhile in Sonic Adventure 2.
Can't wait to see the coping and seething when this scene is remade in live action then
Can't wait to see the coping and seething when this scene is remade in live action then
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Oh that would be cool to see that it would be one for the ages. The salt from that would be fun.
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Yeah there is definitely a feeling of mandates hanging over the writers at times. Those are things I'm willing to put up with since the movies are good in spite of them (though I like Tom, Maddie etc. since they actually have a natural connection to Sonic) but if I could trim them down or make them work more fluidly I would.
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Yeah like the cop and his wife are just okay, but the extended family feel pointless. I do hope Sonic 3 doesn't have that sort of meandering side plot and focuses more on the action like with this movie.