Serious LGBT Discussion

I'm in the process of completely abandoning coomering and any and all degenerate behavior. I want to completely break free from the influence of pornography.
>it's another moid who got groomed into destroying his sex drive
Anyway NoFap is just a bunch of snake oil. The NoFap community is notorious for not actually helping anyone abandon porn, not that it's even necessary.
I know in my heart masturbation is a sin, but completely abandoning it feels impossible, especially since there is no sexual outlet for me that God would approve of.
Satisfying your sex drive is not a sin. Keeping your libido contained will only lead you to blow up when it's inconvenient. Sometimes literally, in the form of wet dreams.
Is it permissible to do it occasionally, not for pleasure, but to remove the impulse? Or would I only introduce temptations into my life this way? Should I just try harder to nofap? What should I do?
By regularly masturbating you REDUCE your temptations and think clearly.
Chastity is definitely the only way. I will be introducing temptation otherwise for sure. But man oh man.
Put on a chastity cage while you're at it lol.

Just do what you enjoy for the fucks sake, stop polluting your mind with meaningless drivel like "should i goon or should i not" and get a life. You'll stop caring about porn """"addiction"""" when you face real problems.
 
I know in my heart masturbation is a sin, but completely abandoning it feels impossible, especially since there is no sexual outlet for me that God would approve of. (like a girlfriend)
maybe what you should be focusing on instead is your relationship with religion. if you don't develop a normal relationship with normal human functions you're going to ping pong between the two most insufferable kind of people, fundamentalist religious nuts and snarky athiest video essayists

your entire life will revolve around obsessing about religion instead of figuring your life out like a normal person
 
I almost regret making that post a few days ago, but I'm glad I did, I got the response I wanted with what @California Newt has said. (and I glad I discovered his other posts) He really gets it.

The NoFap community is […]
I pity this "community", they're putting themselves into some kind of messed up psychological OCD hell.

Keeping your libido contained will only lead you to […]

By regularly masturbating you REDUCE your temptations and think clearly.

Just do what you enjoy […]
I used to want to believe that, but it's ultimately all wrong. It's just cope, sorry.
I hope you will never have to find that out the hard way! And I'm not saying this in an underhanded manner.

maybe what you should be focusing on instead is your relationship with religion. […]
At the risk of making it appear that I'm using Christianity as means to an end, what I'm ultimately chasing is happiness and well-being. What I realize now is that they are found through searching for truth.
But I still have a long way to go in broadening my le understanding.

your entire life will revolve around obsessing about religion instead of figuring your life out like a normal person
It's impossible to live a life without religion and you can't compartmentalize you life into "religious" and "non-religious" halves.
It's another one of those things that you learn the hard way. It doesn't mean you're "obsessed" with it.
 
If Matt Walsh's documentary What is a Woman is any indication, it seems that many people in the third world have absolutely zero concept of gay sex. The people that Matt Walsh interviewed seemed very confused when the subject of homosexuality came up, asking, "Where would you even fuck?" Obviously the thought of taking it in the ass or the mouth or rubbing two dicks against each other never occurred to them, but even if it did, the thought would almost certainly gross them out.
I've often wondered how the average North Korean (not the ones from Pyongyang) would react to questions about gender identity and sexuality given they are even more isolated from the outside world than third world African countries.
 
It's impossible to live a life without religion and you can't compartmentalize you life into "religious" and "non-religious" halves.
It's another one of those things that you learn the hard way. It doesn't mean you're "obsessed" with it.
uh huh. well don't come crying to me when you eventually break down and use the app store on your phone to download Grindr, sign up for an account in just a few easy steps, use their sleek modern UI to create a profile, find dozens of matches near you, and then meet up with like 10 willing and able guys in one week
 
It's impossible to live a life without religion and you can't compartmentalize you life into "religious" and "non-religious" halves.
It's another one of those things that you learn the hard way. It doesn't mean you're "obsessed" with it.
I don't think that you are going far enough considering the severity of your condition. In fact, I think that you should enter the monastic life.
 
>it's another moid who got groomed into destroying his sex drive
> using the wrong shade of green

uh huh. well don't come crying to me when you eventually break down and use the app store on your phone to download Grindr, sign up for an account in just a few easy steps, use their sleek modern UI to create a profile, find dozens of matches near you, and then meet up with like 10 willing and able guys in one week.
That's an extreme example with a weird energy behind it, but you're not wrong that something like that could happen. But so what? It's expected that this sort of thing is gonna start off rocky: you just get up again and do better. I don't think this guy's gonna go out AIDSmaxxing, though; that sounds like more of an insecurity problem than an impulse control problem. It comes from the "have 'sex' or else you can't prove to yourself that you're not an incel subhuman" psyop.

You're coming off kind-of like a fat guy telling another fat guy not to try to cut out junk food entirely because you saw some dude trying a diet, approaching it poorly or in an inexperienced way, and balooning-up past his original weight after eating a gorillion Costco chicken-bakes.

You never regret the people you didn't have sex with.
 
Última edición:
uh huh. well don't come crying to me when you eventually break down and use the app store on your phone to download Grindr, sign up for an account in just a few easy steps, use their sleek modern UI to create a profile, find dozens of matches near you, and then meet up with like 10 willing and able guys in one week
Fuck yes! I love Grindr. When I was a babygay I fucked as many men as I could find on Grindr, including but not limited to heroin junkies, transwomen and niggers. I got pozzed by this hunk with a BBC. I got an immediate erection when I saw my HIV test result say positive. HIV isn't as bad as everyone says, you kinda forget about it when you get pounded in your boyhole. It's so hot to spread my bug to everyone else on Grindr while they don't know. Y'all ain't really gay until you get pozzed!
 
I’m curious how actual intersex people feel about the forced teaming of intersex and LGBT identities. Are all their advocacy orgs captured or is anyone pushing back on the narrative?
They're an extreme minority of a minority, as a general rule they reject being mixed up with troonery and intersex terms being appropriated but what can they do? They have virtually no power or support, but people are going to demand to know why they didn't win the war with 3 sticks and a chicken with a knife. There's no political interest to help the intersexed since they're not AGP creeps that politicians, socialites, celebrities and big med etc can use as a front for their own personal interests
 
uh huh. well don't come crying to me when you eventually break down and use the app store on your phone to download Grindr, sign up for an account in just a few easy steps, use their sleek modern UI to create a profile, find dozens of matches near you, and then meet up with like 10 willing and able guys in one week
It's not hard to avoid the dating scene, I've been doing it most of my adult life (sometimes even on purpose).
 
How do the SJWs -- and the "politically correct" before Current Year -- claim it is "bigoted" or unenlightened to not accept LGBTQETC+ anyways? Like what is the logic behind the idea that it is enlightened to think a certain way about sexuality, or be accepting of "identifying" as a different sex "gender"? Oh yeah and the "bigot" approach is not new. I recall that even being merely critical of homosexuality in the '00s could mean a "bigot" label. Of course in Current Year "Clown World", "bigot" can mean "dissenter".
 
How do the SJWs -- and the "politically correct" before Current Year -- claim it is "bigoted" or unenlightened to not accept LGBTQETC+ anyways? Like what is the logic behind the idea that it is enlightened to think a certain way about sexuality, or be accepting of "identifying" as a different sex "gender"? Oh yeah and the "bigot" approach is not new. I recall that even being merely critical of homosexuality in the '00s could mean a "bigot" label. Of course in Current Year "Clown World", "bigot" can mean "dissenter".

Because instinctively, most everyone knows that homosexuality is inherently disordered. We even have evidence that such gut reactions to homosexuality are inborn or hard coded.

The only two ways that the LGBTQ was able to obtain any sort of tolerance or acceptance was via their supposed underdog status, AND by constantly browbeating people with the propaganda that sodomy acceptance was a really really important civil rights issue and that only evil people and primitive dum dums could oppose anything that the LGBTQ rights movement was fighting for. And cancelling anyone who resisted.

They had to do it, because again, hatred of the homosexual act is a deeply ingrained instinct, and the LGBTQ needs to force the majority to suppress their gut instincts on the subject in order to obtain anything resembling mainstream acceptance.

Though I cannot help but note the irony that the gay rights movement essentially employed some form of "conversion therapy" against "homophobes." Or in the very least, what they would consider to be "conversion therapy" if the positions were reversed.
 
How do the SJWs -- and the "politically correct" before Current Year -- claim it is "bigoted" or unenlightened to not accept LGBTQETC+ anyways? Like what is the logic behind the idea that it is enlightened to think a certain way about sexuality, or be accepting of "identifying" as a different sex "gender"? Oh yeah and the "bigot" approach is not new. I recall that even being merely critical of homosexuality in the '00s could mean a "bigot" label. Of course in Current Year "Clown World", "bigot" can mean "dissenter".
This in the application of gays, trannies, even races has ALWAYS had the exact same framework

-reduce any differences down through speech to seem as minimalistic as possible
-label ANY criticism as PURELY hating someone "because they are different", rather than an objective examination of the pros and cons
-Use this insistence to make people mentally SKIP PAST using their brain, by insisting they are a bigot

Really, its brainwashing
 
I gained certain insight that I felt like sharing in this thread as I want to hear your opinions on this. What if the toxic behavior of trannies frequently recorded by this site is a by-product of their environment trying to ineffectively correct them? People frequently joke that folks of that demographic commonly come from broken or abusive families, which holds some truth to it. By in large, transgenderism is largely seen as taboo across the world, at best as exotic, so even progressive states have families feeling hesitancy towards it at some level.

I interacted with enough trannies over the years to notice a running theme of them living with family members or studying with classmates with which they would have constant arguments and fights with, or get outright bullied. But it's only recently did I start making the connection that such family/school life transfers unto other aspects of life like the internet. If they are living in an environment where they get constantly shouted at and being called a fag, they invariably end up being the ones shouting "bigot" or "x-phobia" on the internet. If they grew up being subject to constant threats over pursuing a queer lifestyle, they invariably threaten people in their friend circle if they don't get what they want. It's as if... they heavily internalize such sort of upbringing, they perceive it to be as the general norm. If they are perceived as disgusting pigs, they'll grow up believing it's how every other person within their community perceives each other on some level. Basically, they adopt the exact behavior meant to correct them, which leads to them fighting windmills in trying to correct the general cis straight population, becoming lolcows as we all know and love.

Now I know that most of you don't put that much thought into it, if you see a pig, you call it a pig and leave it at that, you don't feel the compulsion to pick up a child psychology book, like that's fine... most people don't react that way. But I'm just left wondering... what if many of the things people use to avoid their kids to troon out are precisely the things that make them troon out even harder? Like... maybe the kids with queer tendencies don't deserve to be hit with slippers and being called fags, but be taken out fishing or to watch a baseball game? Because if they're subject to the former, they're highly likely to become socially dysfunctional, because they'll adopt that exact abuse to how most life's problems should be addressed - in relationships, in job search, in disagreements, in hobbies, etc., etc. Not sure if this would outright stop most instances of people trooning out, but maybe at the very least it could make some of them not a complete deadweight to society.
 
Homophobia bros I need your help (inb4 I get jannied to mass debates)
the irony of ur statement is that its quite the opposite we dont want u men cuz ur all weird and creepy and rapey, this is why lots of girls are becoming lesbian its not the other way around LOL also maybe if u acted more masculine instead of whining about women bullying u then more women would like u... x3
1753501045686.webp
"becoming lesbian"? That's... le homophobia! Are lesbians just not real? Are boobies not enough of an appeal for them? Or did I get baited by some fag?
I've actually been thinking about this for a while, since I've been fairly close friends with gay guys before and they straight up just wanna fuck regular decent looking dudes, but most of the "lesbians" end up cheating on their girl for a man or pooning out.
 
what if many of the things people use to avoid their kids to troon out are precisely the things that make them troon out even harder? Like... maybe the kids with queer tendencies don't deserve to be hit with slippers and being called fags, but be taken out fishing or to watch a baseball game? Because if they're subject to the former, they're highly likely to become socially dysfunctional, because they'll adopt that exact abuse to how most life's problems should be addressed - in relationships, in job search, in disagreements, in hobbies, etc., etc. Not sure if this would outright stop most instances of people trooning out, but maybe at the very least it could make some of them not a complete deadweight to society.

That's exactly what I've often thought as well. Sadly, parents all too often do things to chase their children right into the arms of those they're trying to protect them from.

You get a degenerate community like the LGBTQ community, and it puts on an act of being super accepting and inclusive. This also applies to religious cults or horrifically porn soaked internet communities like the furry fandom.

Now compare that to a parent who constantly insults you, calls you names, emotionally abuses you, gets on your case about your grades at school (even if you're doing well or at least OKish), or falls for moral panics around things like secular music or videogames (particularly in the T or M range), etc.

The child instinctively knows that their parents aren't safe to go to for help, because even a child can perceive the parents' emotional immaturity and lack of intelligence. And they're sadly correct, the parent will likely direct a great deal of the grief and anger towards the child.

Child predators in the LGBTQ love to use their underage victims as meat shields, by arguing that their enemies want to hurt trans/gay kids. And as mentioned earlier, the emotionally stunted parent will almost always play right into that claim by doing something to hurt the child in response to finding out they fell into the LGBTQ shit.

Being an emotionally mature parent, and NOT having a stick up your butt, can go a very long way, including making your kids less likely to fall for predators. Honestly, the woke left is so fucking insane and deranged, you have to be incredibly stupid in order to lose to them.

On the other hand, you also need to remember that the rather toxic behavior from the LGBTQ isn't because of homophobia or queerphobia. It's because the very nature of their lifestyle goes against common sense and nature, and destroys them mentally and emotionally and even physically. Even in places that are super accepting to the LGBTQ, they're still just as wretched and as miserable as ever. Even if society doesn't invalidate you, nature itself will find a way to do so.

 
Última edición:
Atrás
Top Abajo