💰 Grifter Sam Hyde / Samuel Whitcomb Hyde / Million Dollar Extreme (MDE) / COM98 / 1Team / HydeWars / alienmode / @wigger / 'The Candyman' - Millennial anti-humorist, Carnegie Mellon University art student, 'World Peace' writer and creator, born-again Christian and groyper convert. The Marky Post to End All Marky Posts.

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Sneedifarms dijo:
Nitpicking between blues, rock, and blues rock is about as productive as trying to figure out if Schubert belonged to the classical or romantic eras. And even so, Muddy Waters and Howlin Wolf still exist.
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Blues and rock have about as much in common as rock and death metal. I don't care if some of the chords are the same. Just because some rock musicians were inspired by blues musicians doesn't mean that rock has anything to do with black culture, which is what the other guy was implying. By the way, I wouldn't care if 90% of contemporary rock and metal musicians were black, either.
 
Hentai-Semitism dijo:
Blues and rock have about as much in common as rock and death metal.
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They’re all part of the same extended family tree, yes. It’s not hard to trace a throughline that goes from Napalm Death back to Bessie Smith.

Hentai-Semitism dijo:
I don't care if some of the chords are the same.
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The entire concept of singer-guitar-drums-bass comes directly from the blues. That’s pretty fucking significant on a level even moreso than using more seventh chords than the average Debussy prelude.

Hentai-Semitism dijo:
Just because some rock musicians were inspired by blues musicians
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Rock musicians are directly indebted to blues musicians the same say everyone who’s ever written a string quartet is indebted to Joseph Haydn. Trying to downplay it as any less is just being dishonest.

Hentai-Semitism dijo:
doesn't mean that rock has anything to do with black culture, which is what the other guy was implying.
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It does mean that rock music has the inherently ugly stain of being born from black culture, like an octaroon chick with a black grandfather. Certainly not a judgement call on her personality, but you’d also look like a bit of a tool if you called her an exemplar of white excellence while putting down a half black chick as a nigger mutt.

The point is not about the quality of the music itself, it’s about arguing that rock music is somehow a more representative form of music for white advocacy than whatever wigger brainrot Sam listens to when it’s really all equally indebted to and created by niggers. There’s no point arguing about which genre of music is less nigger-ified when the entire Western classical tradition is just sitting there waiting for wignat wannabes to figure out that there are 31 other Beethoven sonatas that don’t have Moonlight in the title.
 
Sneedifarms dijo:
What Stravinsky was doing wasn't particularly radical compared to what people like Schoenberg, Scriabin, and Debussy were already doing prior to the Rite's premiere and at the same time.
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Shoenberg sucks. Debussy is of course a classic choice. Glad you mentioned Scriabin, I'm actually a big fan of his, especially his earlier work. His Piano Concerto is one of my favorite piano concertos ever, and should be performed way, way more. The Adagio is absolutely incredible.
 
Rodeo Roadrunner dijo:
Shoenberg sucks. Debussy is of course a classic choice. Glad you mentioned Scriabin, I'm actually a big fan of his, especially his earlier work. His Piano Concerto is one of my favorite piano concertos ever, and should be performed way, way more. The Adagio is absolutely incredible.
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I’m about as interested in discussing classical music on the internet drama forum as I am in discussing my favorite Extreme Peace skits on a Chinese basketweaving forum. Still, you sound like a dilletante.
 
Because we're talking about piano, I have been quite fond of Alkan, recently. He's quickly become one of my favorite composers. He was contemporary and friends with composers like Chopin and Liszt, but speculated to have not had as much fame because his compositions were notoriously hard. Even famed concert pianists like Liszt were afraid of how demanding, and outright unhinged his works were. He was observed to retreat from society for periods of time and come back with new compositions to show people. Nobody bothered recording his music because it was so fucking hard to play, so his works flew under the radar for almost a century.

Here's one of his more notable pieces. Étude in A Minor. It was commissioned by Alkan's piano instructor at the Conservatoire de Paris (Which was basically the Music School at the time)
The composition is very tight and ripe if I do say so myself.
 
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Local Wordmason dijo:
Because we're talking about piano, I have been quite fond of Alkan, recently. He's quickly become one of my favorite composers. He was contemporary and friends with composers like Chopin and Liszt, but speculated to have not had as much fame because his compositions were notoriously hard. Even famed concert pianists like Liszt were afraid of how demanding, and outright unhinged his works were. He was observed to retreat from society for periods of time and come back with new compositions to show people. Nobody bothered recording his music because it was so fucking hard to play, so his works flew under the radar for almost a century.

Here's one of his more notable pieces. Étude in A Minor. It was commissioned by Alkan's piano instructor at the Conservatoire in Paris (Which was basically the Art School at the time)
The composition is very tight and ripe if I do say so myself.
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I heard he died by having his own bookshelf fall over on top of him, and since he was such a recluse, no body bothered to look for him, so he was just slowly crushed to death. Pretty rough way to go out.
 
BigfrodChungusington9000X dijo:
I heard he died by having his own bookshelf fall over on top of him, and since he was such a recluse, no body bothered to look for him, so he was just slowly crushed to death. Pretty rough way to go out.
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I never heard that story, but I looked into it and it's even funnier than that. It was supposedly while he was trying to reach for a copy of the Talmud. Unfortunately, the story has been disputed, and there's a chance that if a bookshelf fell it was only because he was trying to grab it for support when he collapsed. Go figure the version of that story with Jewish texts came from the Rabbi of his hometown.
 
Local Wordmason dijo:
I never heard that story, but I looked into it and it's even funnier than that. It was supposedly while he was trying to reach for a copy of the Talmud. Unfortunately, the story has been disputed, and there's a chance that if a bookshelf fell it was only because he was trying to grab it for support when he collapsed. Go figure the version of that story with Jewish texts came from the Rabbi of his hometown.
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I wish I could think of something funny to say but that shit is crazy enough on it's own. Of all fucking things, the Talmud? Jeepers fucking creepers... Oy vey even.
 
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