💰 Grifter Sam Hyde / Samuel Whitcomb Hyde / Million Dollar Extreme (MDE) / COM98 / 1Team / HydeWars / alienmode / @wigger / 'The Candyman' - Millennial anti-humorist, Carnegie Mellon University art student, 'World Peace' writer and creator, born-again Christian and groyper convert. The Marky Post to End All Marky Posts.

[berenstain]

A failure is someone who never persues what they're passionate about. A failure is someone who coasts through life quietly desperate & miserable, working a job they hate, putting on a face every day to make a living. Sam doesn't fit that category

Some say Sam is a failure because he is no longer passionate, he no longer has the energy he use to and his uploads are a lazy paycheck. I don't think most people get what it means to be a successful artist, you lose your passion all the time. You just have to push through every gallery exhibition and pump out your work or you will never make it as a full time artist. Maybe 5% of success in arts has to do with talent, the rest is a grind. "Pursuing your passion" is a late capitalist meme that is eternally unreachable, it's normal to hate your life from time to time.

Sam is obviously successful in his profession, edgy internet comedian. We all know about him. He won because he has a loyal audience that won't ever cancel him or turn on him. All these years of grinding as an artist payed off, Internet Daddying is lucrative, low-effort, and uncontroversial.

This little dork beat the odds.



Success in personal life is a completely different story.

 

[PeggieBigCock]

I don't see how a reasonable person could look at sams life and consider him a failure. It's like calling axl rose a failure because he's not at the same level of success as he was in his earlier days. He's still a musician whose sold millions of records- you can't take that away just because circumstances change. Sam is a comedian who manages to support himself/others with his craft.

You’re not accounting for the fact that he’s come from more wealth, privilege, & opportunity than you can even imagine, with all that educational & financial support, he relies on YOU for income, his paypigs & now the ad revenue of far more skilled editors than himself who made his shitty sloggish, unfinished content actually entertaining… nothing will ever be enough for Sam, he has LA multimillionaire trust fund schizo paypigs that write him blank checks to be their personal jester, as mentioned previously in this very thread, supposedly tens of thousands of monthly subscribers, and he’s bitching about the ad revenue of clip channels???? People keep calling him a business man, well his business is selling absolute shit to idiots and he’s clearly not very good at it.

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

That's life changing cash. I guarantee he's a fucking zoomer that thinks he's totally "sigma and not selling out" and that he'll bounce back.

Nigga you don't bounce back from rejecting 54k I can already see him trying to start up a wings or cumtown clip channel or some shit, but he will never get a deal like that again. He had it made, but turned down what will literally be the best deal of his life. Who will ever actually offer a deal to people clipping their shit instead of just sending a quick DMCA? It's like having a Fallout character with 0 intelligence and 10 luck, I just can't fathom rejecting that great a deal for just editing clips.

I have no idea what the fuck you kids on are these days but $54k per year is not "life changing money". It's slightly better than $25 per hour, but then Uncle Sam or The Queen or whoever else is gonna come along and take their pound of flesh knocking that down to probably $35k-$40k take-home at best. Then this nigga still has to pay for his own health insurance on top of it and with the rising cost of *literally everything* right now, $25/hr, while not being bad at all for a young guy, it's certainly not Easy-Street™. Plus for anyone who has never done any audio-visual work in their life it might not seem like a lot of work, but The New Pill dude does more than just post clips, he makes little animations and spends a ton of time sourcing good clips and making his uploads have a particular flow to them that obviously takes some time to craft. We also have no idea what, if any, additional stipulations or quotas Sam may have had about the arrangement behind the scenes that could have made it just not worth it for The New Pill. Also how tf do any of us know what TNP does with the rest of their time? For all we know they could be a legitimate professional and only doing the TNP shit on the side as a passion project. Getting paid to do it runs up a whole other host of issues like having their private name publicly tied to Sam as an employee with plenty of tax records that could have a detrimental effect on their personal and professional life. Again, we don't know. All I DO know for sure, is that $54k isn't bad for a young guy or someone in a shit position on the verge of poverty, but it absolutely isn't "an offer that can't be refused".

 

[Wesley Willis]

The Hyde Wars pinned comment makes it sound like he was just going to give him money for his side hobby, but the actual video makes it sound like he wanted TNP to be a full-time edit slave. $56,287 is the median salary of full-time wagies nationwide according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. TNP would be trading an average salary for what exactly? Can he trust the employer? What is the job stability? Will working for Hyde ruin his name? Will working for Hyde expose him to doxing and stalking? Will he be able transition into stable work after the YouTube money dries up? There were rumors that Hyde was flaky with his agreements years ago, why would he risk that, and not everyone wants their hobby to consume their entire life, especially if it's a reputational risk.

The thing is, I don't think TNP is actually smart enough to even ask these questions. He's admitted to being retarded a few times. In his now-deleted community post, he said he was "bad with numbers" and his channel description says Hyde's "advice that he sprinkles throughout videos helped me immensely, so I started doing this format for other dazed and confused gals and youngsters." Maybe TNP actually is rational and this is all a troll, it's hard for me to tell irony anymore.

A 1099 job with no health insurance, PTO, 401k. worker's comp. It's only worth it if you gets 20 hour or less work weeks.

 

[TheAntiE-CelebLeague00]

As some have mentioned health insurance and other benefits are important to note (401k, student loan debt programs, and etc). Would TNP have been full time, part time, or a freelancer? These all change the calculation. Would he have been payed by performance or was that 4,500 going to be standard.

Also glad some noted the taxes, and tax rate. That 56K is a lot less than it first appears when the federal, state, and local governments take there cut. Zoomers in this thread think employment is a boss giving you a chest of money all upfront (it isnt). Working for internet celebrities is one of the most fickle careers out there, job security is important especially with this current economy. It would be unwise to put your livelyhood in the hands of an internet celebrity who has a multi million dollar trust fund to lean on. A business owner who sees himself more as an "artist" and can afford to fail is more prone to fail. Hyde's world doesnt end if everything goes under, for many other businesses owners this is not the case. If TNP becomes Hyde's wagie and Sam's internet career dies months later he is screwed. Now any business/career can go under quickly, but some things go first. E-celebs, celebs, restaurants, entertainment, and other unnecessary purchases are the first to be cut. As things move forward we are going to see the e-celebs lose more and more money, collectively, as people spend more on household items (and gas).

 

[PeggieBigCock]

Sam is a bit too prideful to not pay his guys.

Lmao yeah not even close, his thread on Lolcow farms started with allegations of not paying talent he brought on board. Recently Bicflame talked about living in a shithole dump. He barely & inconsistently pays his crew, and he’s long been known for it.

 

[Nate Higgers]

There's effectively 2. The L.A. Comedian scene which is filled with pretentious social elites because they get to claim Joe Rogan, and they get all the tv gigs (Schaub, Delia, Theo Von, Joey Diaz, Cummings, Bobby Lee, Bryan Callen, Stavros, Redbar Mike, Steve-O) millionaires crying about how hard their life is. And the New York Comedian scene which is depressing, and lonely.

I think Sam's been trying to break into them, and has wizened up that he needs friends. I remember him going on Sam Tripoli's podcast who's an orbiter of Joey Diaz, and Eddie Bravo, and a certified Joe Rogan minion. Maybe it's because it gets him closer to hasan.

Counterpoint: the Philly Comedian Extended Universe scene is alright. It basically all centers around Matt and Shane’s podcast (Dad Meat, Ya F#cked It, War Mode) but none of those seem lonely and depressing. They’re genuinely funny podcasts with dumbass retards just hangin out being guys

 

[Mr. Ultimatum]

2. Getting blacklisted from hollywood isnt a negative

The Hollywood elites upon blacklisting Hyde:

 

[J.R. "Bob" Dobbs]

It appears you guys were right. The New Pill fucked up and lost out on the easiest money of his life.
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What a dumb bitch

If Sam is being genuine here, TNP is fucking retarded lmfao. Can you imagine turning down 50k+ a year for uploading existing clips to youtube? Holy fuck.

 

[who dare wins?]

Considering the fact that the previous allegations made before this mostly involved his crew (or what was it before MDE world peace) and now he is doing this stuff it is not surprising. He is certainly being shrewd, wanting a monopoly over clips so as to get people to pay for his service to watch the full thing. Gay, I know, but thinking about it that although surprising on one hand makes sense on the other.

My real question is, considering many consider him a "failure" and how "he will die out", those claims hold no merit. Sam had literally flipped off his wider audience for a smaller more concentrated and loyal base, slowly built it off, grinding away and it has paid off. I do not think he will ever become irrelevant. He already was in a stage of "irrelevancy" for quite some time after world peace. Call me autistic but he will probably fly too close to the sun like Icarus. He has a lot of brand new attention on him, especially with the beef against Hasan, the idubbz documentary and the whole NFT side hustles. He is living "on the edge" and he knows it, with the limelight on that now finally he wants to make big and make a mark. He might be chill to be with IRL (quite a few people have stated that after interacting with him) but he is probably having some form of ego issues and it might get in the way of that. All will worsen until it all sort of spills over in some hugely autistic manner and he goes down in flames.

Sam is not the type of guy to simply "ride into the abyss". He has been grinding away, and he is going to fucking shine. Even if that means imploding on himself in every physical and non-physical manner possible. He wants a mark on history, despite his fuckups with his family (smashing cars like an autistic faggot) and his sexual escapades in his more youthful years, he has grown beyond that and wants to strike big. No one knows what will happen next, but it will certainly be big in many aspects. "That is my take on it" as the twitterites and youtube commentary people say. That is all

 

[Orange Rhymer]

Sam is a grifter in many regards and I wouldn't want him to be around my children (not after what he did in uvalde), however I can appreciate this as a business move.
Imagine you have a patent on something and some chink slightly changes your product to evade patent laws and just sells it for cheaper. Wouldn't you go after them?

Chink - no.
I have extensive experience with chink factories stealing USA IP.
You can complain to the government, and wait for the deafening silence.
You can hire a lawyer, and watch in wonder how zero results got you a $10,000 monthly bill.

It has been noted here, but Sam was best when he had peers holding him back. If you watch the new crap on gumroad, it's just Sam walking around with a bunch of reddit tier white dudes with absolutely no charisma or stage presence. He completely dominates them in any conversation and almost comes off as an abusive prick. He's like some weird caricature of 4chan's idea of what an "alpha" is come to life.

His early stuff was lightning in a bottle, but that era is long gone. I don't even know how to describe his current content -- some of it has whispers of what made it great from the past but most is just boring content with admittedly pretty interesting editing. Why does anyone care about Sam and MMA or boxing?

The content feels just like Tom Green when he got older -- he and his audience just outgrew what made the original content funny. Adult Swim was his shot and he blew it. Not saying what happened was fair, but it is what it is.

^^^ The most perfect description of Sam.

I wouldn't take any advice from Hyde and I wouldn't buy anything from Rochefort

Demonstrates the real problem in our society. Lack of fathers. His life advice is fucking awful.
Also, who the fuck would give these cretins a credit card number? I wouldn't let them walk my dog.

Sam used to be hilarious, but it's truly over.

 

[Day Of The Sword]

His graphic design style looks sort of neat in video but you'd have to be insane to wear it. It's literally just Supreme brandwhoring and FOMO for /pol/cels.

Nobody knows who sam is irl, much less recognise his merch, so I don't get why it would be brandwhoring.
They have cool designs, like a Metallica shirt, graphic tees are mostly worn by not insane people.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

A 1099 job with no health insurance, PTO, 401k. worker's comp. It's only worth it if you gets 20 hour or less work weeks.

Come and work with me in the deep south. Minimum wage in a factory with a heat index over 100. Doing manual labor.
Sure, they get health insurance, who the fuck cares? Can't buy gas with it.
$54k doing nothing in an AC home WITHOUT health insurance sounds fucking great to these people.

Especially, when I come around and close the factory.

Spoiler: Health Insurance in the US

You don't need insurance in the US.
1) Medicaid will take care of 50-80% of your needs if you apply
2) The Clinic system in the US is free - even for illegals. Some clinics perform simple surgeries.
3) Rx programs in the US provide free drugs - sponsored by drug companies for optics
4) Near expiration drugs are always free -gotta get in the program, though
5) Obamacare never died, bigger than ever and cost PENNIES per month
6) Independant charities and churches pick up the rest...

Everything in the USA is free. Not even kidding. EVERYTHING.

 

[Noble Redditor]

The Hyde Wars pinned comment makes it sound like he was just going to give him money for his side hobby, but the actual video makes it sound like he wanted TNP to be a full-time edit slave. $56,287 is the median salary of full-time wagies nationwide according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. TNP would be trading an average salary for what exactly? Can he trust the employer? What is the job stability? Will working for Hyde ruin his name? Will working for Hyde expose him to doxing and stalking? Will he be able transition into stable work after the YouTube money dries up? There were rumors that Hyde was flaky with his agreements years ago, why would he risk that, and not everyone wants their hobby to consume their entire life, especially if it's a reputational risk.

The thing is, I don't think TNP is actually smart enough to even ask these questions. He's admitted to being retarded a few times. In his now-deleted community post, he said he was "bad with numbers" and his channel description says Hyde's "advice that he sprinkles throughout videos helped me immensely, so I started doing this format for other dazed and confused gals and youngsters." Maybe TNP actually is rational and this is all a troll, it's hard for me to tell irony anymore.

It's a freelance video editing position. It's pretty hard to find a good gig in that field, let alone one with a steady rate of pay and especially finding a project you enjoy working on. It's weird that people are saying TNP would have to sacrifice something to work for Sam. Sacrifice what? He'd literally be doing exactly what he already has been doing.

Yeah, he won't get health insurance. He already wasn't getting health insurance so what's the difference?? If he's trying to hold out for a better job offer (editing Sam Hyde clips?) he still has the freedom to quit.

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

Sam Hyde is jewish so he will with natural ease grift his way to a steady source of income. However he is only part jewish so like a stupid goy he will spend most of the money he gets on terrible "investments" (must have had lost tons of money on the crypto scam)

He should order a 2023 Raptor to replace the old ass one he has now. He should be able to get one for only $20k over msrp if he plays his cards right.

Considering the fact that the previous allegations made before this mostly involved his crew (or what was it before MDE world peace) and now he is doing this stuff it is not surprising. He is certainly being shrewd, wanting a monopoly over clips so as to get people to pay for his service to watch the full thing. Gay, I know, but thinking about it that although surprising on one hand makes sense on the other.

My real question is, considering many consider him a "failure" and how "he will die out", those claims hold no merit. Sam had literally flipped off his wider audience for a smaller more concentrated and loyal base, slowly built it off, grinding away and it has paid off. I do not think he will ever become irrelevant. He already was in a stage of "irrelevancy" for quite some time after world peace. Call me autistic but he will probably fly too close to the sun like Icarus. He has a lot of brand new attention on him, especially with the beef against Hasan, the idubbz documentary and the whole NFT side hustles. He is living "on the edge" and he knows it, with the limelight on that now finally he wants to make big and make a mark. He might be chill to be with IRL (quite a few people have stated that after interacting with him) but he is probably having some form of ego issues and it might get in the way of that. All will worsen until it all sort of spills over in some hugely autistic manner and he goes down in flames.

Sam is not the type of guy to simply "ride into the abyss". He has been grinding away, and he is going to fucking shine. Even if that means imploding on himself in every physical and non-physical manner possible. He wants a mark on history, despite his fuckups with his family (smashing cars like an autistic faggot) and his sexual escapades in his more youthful years, he has grown beyond that and wants to strike big. No one knows what will happen next, but it will certainly be big in many aspects. "That is my take on it" as the twitterites and youtube commentary people say. That is all

Sam would never pay consistently. He’s that type of Jew

Stay independent and make Sam pay you every time you post a video he wants down

 

[Noble Redditor]

Come and work with me in the deep south. Minimum wage in a factory with a heat index over 100. Doing manual labor.
Sure, they get health insurance, who the fuck cares? Can't buy gas with it.
$54k doing nothing in an AC home WITHOUT health insurance sounds fucking great to these people.

Especially, when I come around and close the factory.

Spoiler: Health Insurance in the US

You don't need insurance in the US.
1) Medicaid will take care of 50-80% of your needs if you apply
2) The Clinic system in the US is free - even for illegals. Some clinics perform simple surgeries.
3) Rx programs in the US provide free drugs - sponsored by drug companies for optics
4) Near expiration drugs are always free -gotta get in the program, though
5) Obamacare never died, bigger than ever and cost PENNIES per month
6) Independant charities and churches pick up the rest...

Everything in the USA is free. Not even kidding. EVERYTHING.

Many people have talked about how "free" everything can be, but I've yet to figure out how to make it happen. How can I get free gov benefits as a married white man with child.

This is a sincere question btw.

 

[malleusmaleficarum]

Hey guys if you think about it this is actually a really cool and rad move and I would totally do the same thing. Really if you think about it all the people that hate Sam are just jealous and haters(don't we all just want to be just like him?). This is why this small clip channel that refused Sam's offer deserves our bile and hatred just for refusing Sam.

TBH I don't care if he's some abusive degen with a hilarious backstory and if I don't care it doesn't need to be discussed in this thread. So there you have it you can all stop making fun of Sam Hyde now? Thanks!

why should this washed up grifter be exempt from the well deserved scrutiny that washed up grifters receive on here

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

If Sam is being genuine here, TNP is fucking retarded lmfao. Can you imagine turning down 50k+ a year for uploading existing clips to youtube? Holy fuck.

It can’t be that much work either, it probably doesn’t interfere with his day job.

 

[The Line]

It's weird that people are saying TNP would have to sacrifice something to work for Sam. Sacrifice what? He'd literally be doing exactly what he already has been doing.

>Give up 80% of your income from your successful clipping channel that uploads transformative works to Sam
>Payment is controlled by a middleaged man who lives off of daddy Hyde's dwindling teatmilk rations and is rumoured to fall flat on deals
>Possibly be doxed
>Your youtube channel taken over by Sam and will likely be banned for being affiliated with him.
>Job that you either add to resume and get automatically blacklisted from any major corp, or job that you can't present as work experience

TNP made the right choice. I look forward to seeing him battle Sam's attempts at false flagging, and the seethe that will follow.

 

[SpiderDijon]

they really do that now? whatever happened to Mullen not believing in intellectual property? he used to say everyone was free to make a buck off the show if they could find a way to do it

Nick was stuck in a shed during the winter, and he vowed he would do anything never to be that cold again