Business Robot Truckers Could Replace 500K U.S. Jobs - Amid a severe driver shortage, a new study says 90% of long-haul trucking could be replaced by self-driving technology.


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The robots will take the most tedious, most dangerous jobs first, in most things. Trucking is no exception.

Autonomous driving engineers are squarely focused on long-haul freight, the interstate runs with almost no complexity save for a slow curve or an E-ZPass lane. As such, those routes are some of the simpler challenges on the self-driving spectrum.

The biggest hurdle may be infrastructure. The short trip from a factory or distribution center to an interstate is usually far more complicated than the next several hundred miles. The same is true once the machine exits the interstate. One solution is for trucking companies to set up transfer stations at either end, where human drivers handle the tricky first leg of the trip and then hitch their cargo up to robot rigs for the tiresome middle portion. Another station at the exit would flip the freight back to an analog truck for delivery.

Such a system, according to a new study out of the University of Michigan, could replace about 90% of human driving in U.S. long-haul trucking, the equivalent of roughly 500,000 jobs.

“When we talked to truck drivers, literally every one said, ‘Yeah, this part of the job can be automated,’” explained Aniruddh Mohan, a PhD candidate in engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University and a co-author of the study. “We thought they would be a bit more dubious.”

Drivers Wanted

Trucking's market demand index, which measures the ratio of cargo to trucks available, has been running at record highs.

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There are, however, a handful of big ifs. For one, the autonomous systems would have to figure out how to navigate in crummy weather far better than they can now. Second, regulators in many states still haven’t cleared the way for robot rigs. Finally, there’s the infrastructure to consider — all the transfer stations where the cargo would pass from the caffeine-fueled analog to the algorithms.

Still, if trucking companies focused only on America’s Sun Belt, they could fairly easily offset 10% of human driving, the study shows. If they deployed the robots nationwide, but in warmer months only, half of the country’s trucking hours could go autonomous.

“It is happening already, but in a fairly limited way,” said Parth Vaishnav, a climate and energy assistant professor at Michigan and co-author of the study. There are about 3.3 million truck drivers in America, though many don’t stay in the trade long. The long-haul jobs, in particular, are some of the worst. Not only are they protracted and tedious, but they are among the lowest-paid gigs. Long-haul drivers are on the road about 300 days a year and make around $47,000; short-haul routes can be trickier and, as such, pay better and attract more experienced drivers.

Not surprisingly, the long-haul workforce tends to turn over entirely every 12 months or so. At the moment, the industry is short about 61,000 drivers, according to the American Trucking Associations. “In our imagination, we see these as middle-class jobs,” Vaishnav said, “but that hasn’t been the case for awhile now.”

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TuSimple, a seven-year-old startup, aims to have a fleet of self-driving trucks hauling freight
by the end of 2023.


The driver shortage is so bad that American trucking companies are trying to import drivers to ease what has become one of the most acute bottlenecks of the supply chain crisis. Truck lobbyists also are seeking to lower the minimum age for interstate drivers to 18 from 21. So when it comes to piloting an 80,000-pound machine going 75 miles an hour, the choice might come to a robot or a teenager.

Several startups are betting on the robots, including TuSimple, a San Diego, Calif.-based company that says its self-driving systems reduce fuel consumption by as much as 10%. In December, the company removed its human chaperones on an 80-mile stretch of road between Phoenix and Tucson. ( It plans to start deliveries in large swaths of the country without human drivers by the end of next year.

“We’re getting to a real level of commercial viability,” said TuSimple Chief Financial Officer Pat Dillon, “which I think is pretty exciting.”




Hahah gotta love how they keep pushing for the idea of autonomous trucks, much like "eat the bugs" articles.

I agree with a comment I've read where I pulled this from:

>I'll believe it will happen once we get autonomous freight trains.

Now this would be pretty interesting (but the transport lobby would seethe too much about it). Trains are quite literally on rails, and operate in a much more controlled environment than trucks.
 
Is it going to pull itself over at a chain-up zone and put on chains? Is it going to automatically swap out wheels for the trucking equivalent of xtreme snow tires?
I have no idea what you're talking about and therefore question if the truck brain devs know either.

This isn't even a question of how they'll handle it anymore, this is a question of if they realize they even have to try, and that's dangerous.

Then again, which parts of America do they acknowledge the existence of, again? Do all those parts get heavy snow?
 
Isn't that a plus to the people who have the power to legalize the trucks? If you want to get rid of someone, fuck with the breaks on a hackable vehicle, then it's an accident and if anyone gets in trouble then the owner gets in trouble instead of the hacker's masters?
Why do you think they want to make older trucks illegal?
Self-driving trucks coming out anytime soon are a meme. Inclement weather and rough geography are a huge obstacle to trucking that isn't present in urban hives. How are you gonna have an autonomous truck handle snow? Is it going to pull itself over at a chain-up zone and put on chains? Is it going to automatically swap out wheels for the trucking equivalent of xtreme snow tires? Is it just going to have those on all the time and wreck the roads?

EDIT: Actually, going by Silicon Valley's historical tendency to externalize the costs of their brilliant idea onto greater society (see: all the rental bikes that get trashed everywhere), it'll 100% just have the permanent snow tires that destroy the highways.
When you remember that the ruling class doesn't want plebs to own gas powered cars the ruination of Eisenhower's greatest project makes sense.
I have no idea what you're talking about and therefore question if the truck brain devs know either.

This isn't even a question of how they'll handle it anymore, this is a question of if they realize they even have to try, and that's dangerous.

Then again, which parts of America do they acknowledge the existence of, again? Do all those parts get heavy snow?
The northeast does get heavy snow, but forethought is something the ruling class completely lacks.
 
I have no idea what you're talking about and therefore question if the truck brain devs know either.

This isn't even a question of how they'll handle it anymore, this is a question of if they realize they even have to try, and that's dangerous.

Then again, which parts of America do they acknowledge the existence of, again? Do all those parts get heavy snow?
If you want the autonomous trucks to do any kind of cross-country shipping on any road besides I-10, you need chains to get through the Sierras/Cascades/Rockies 3 months out of the year. It's literally illegal for even consumer cars to go through I-70's pass in winter without having chains in the car or snow tires. I'm pretty sure I-80 and I-90 have similar provisions.
And if you do decide to just use the southernmost interstate then fuel costs for shipping anywhere north of the Mason-Dixon line massively spike.
 
One solution is for trucking companies to set up transfer stations at either end, where human drivers handle the tricky first leg of the trip and then hitch their cargo up to robot rigs for the tiresome middle portion. Another station at the exit would flip the freight back to an analog truck for delivery.
AKA a freight yard. They keep inventing very inefficient trains.
 
With regards to tire chains, just keep a temp labor or gig worker pajeet in each truck. Pay them per mile or something so it's below minimum and they will put on tire chains and change flats and all that. They wouldn't need a CDL
This sounds like the start of a human trafficking operation. Just start adding a couple backup humans so they can rotate shifts and add the humans to routes that don't strictly require them "out of an abundance of caution" and you got a perfectly reasonable excuse to have a self driving truck move some scruffy people across the country with no idea where they're going.

Just ignore the fact that most of the humans couldn't exit the vehicle if they tried, that's a safety feature, like seat belts.

And why is this one a naked 4 year old girl here? She can't possibly lift the chains on her own! Dude that's Reverse Stefonknee, I can't spell it out because that'd be transphobic, but that 4 year old girl is totally stronger than she looks and identifies as.
 
Okay okay hear me out

We make these trucks bigger, with a WHOLE BUNCH of trailers and then send them down special steel roads, like rails or something
Warren Buffett is already drooling at the thought.
You can really sense the journoscum foaming at the mouth at the mere thought of replacing people that actually work for their paycheck... absolutelty pathetic.
The Honkening made them livid so they need to ensure that can never happen again. Fucking the lower classes out of more work is merely icing on top of the cake.
 
You can really sense the journoscum foaming at the mouth at the mere thought of replacing people that actually work for their paycheck... absolutelty pathetic.
More like cooming themselves dry as a mummy... but still pathetic.

"Hey! That guy isn't dependent on our handouts! OBSOLETE HIM!"


Automated driving vehicles haven't really become a thing yet and people are already trying to make automated big rigs? I guess investing in technology that doesn't currently exist is easier then actually addressing issues in the industry.
They're also trying to make ELECTRIC rigs while they're at it..... also doomed to fail because it's being done by people who's only exposure to the industry is passing the trucks on the highway and thinking "Surely it can't be that hard to just put a different engine in that"

Fully automated electric-only transport logistics are like reliable fusion power... always only 10 years away....

I've been promised (or threatened) with both my entire life.

@Absolutego tire chains deployable at the flip of a switch are already available. Look up "insta chains"

The automated truck's coming is not being delayed by any physical limitation, but "software" ones.

It's not that there's no "snow chains" button, it's knowing when you need to push that button.


That said, this is definitely a response to the trucker revolt. Before it happened, the new "learn to code" was "learn to CDL' because they had an acute driver shortage, now, they're scared of what those new members of the working class might organize to do....

If the "acute shortage", going on six months by now, can't make the robo-trucker 9000 get here even in experimental form? That tells me this technology is nowhere near mature and given they've been working on it for 40 years.... possibly impossible.

AKA a freight yard. They keep inventing very inefficient trains.
The most inefficient train yet is begging for funding..... if you're interested.

 
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Semi drivers are sketchy as fuck so let's make robots do it instead! Cause AI is totally ready for that, just ask all the AI bots that /pol/ had their way with.
 
First off, batteries, how much of a bank will these have? How much road time will they have per charge? How long will it take to recharge? How much will this slow down logistics?

Second, A.I. how will trucks handle congested cities? Or for that matter cities that arent completely grid shaped? I have a ford explorer that has a full sensor suite tied to the cruise control and it likes to lock the brakes up on any decent curve, thinking its sensing an obstacle. Also in modest rain the cruise cuts out because the weather disables the sensors, how will these things behave if they have a sensor malfunction?

Third, the logistics of it all. Large numbers of these will require large support facilities for battery charging and maintenance (tires, cleaning, mechanical work) thousands of these facilities will be required, and even more people will need to be trained to deal with the electronics on top of the mechanical, how long will that take to get set up? What about the electricity this is going to require? Where the hell is that going to come from?
 
Self driving cars are this generation's flying cars. Good luck getting an AI to drive in the snow, torrential rain, on a mountain road, or any other condition that doesn't have very strict, reliable, easy-to-see lines telling it exactly where to go. To my knowledge, no company has managed to get a self driving car to even recognize that the road exists when it's covered in snow. And that's not even getting into the many issues with GPS, which would be absolutely mandatory for trucking in a non-staged environment.

Outside of maybe California or Texas where the road conditions are the exact same every day, self driving cars aren't going to happen until we have actual AI that's as intelligent as a human, and considering our most "advanced AI" is still basically on par with SmarterChild but with voice recognition poorly bolted onto it, we've still got decades to go, if not centuries.
 
At that point just improve the railway system, less work - and it's at least possible.

Also you dumb faggots can't even make a robot that takes my goddamn mcdonalds order properly, and I'm supposed to believe those selfsame robo-retards can drive interstate lines and shit? lmao.
 
I can see the forces of diversity looting these like they do trains. Might even be easier than trains, come to think of it, presuming some sort of auto-stop technology built into the trucks. A few panel trucks or vans, some bolt cutters and a quick in and out. Just a thought. ;🤔
 
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