💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Jacques1194]

Fuck, you just gave me war flash backs to watching some nb chic arguing asexuality. The shit they come up with is beyond fucking mind numbing. I’ve never seen a group of people so dependent on getting away from the “heterosexual binary,” they can’t even come up with shit that makes sense. And all they fucking did was just make a new system, but so convoluted that you literally need a class on this shit.

What gets me is that I've seen these people argue that asexual people can still have a high sex drive and still be called asexual. Their reasoning from what I remember correctly was that its the "Sexual attraction" they have towards people. I'm sorry but how does that make sense? Isn't that kinda like saying that you can identify as vegan but still eat meat and argue "Oh, I don't like eating meat but I still eat it because being vegan is how much you enjoy eating meat". You just want the label to be special and different.

 

[Stan]

I hate trannies in corsets so fucking much, I might have been able to enjoy corseting except that 66% of involved enthusiasts are men who may as well be wearing a breastplate for how much a corset does for them. Like. It can’t turn no boobs into boobs. It can’t create hips from nothing. I don’t want to be associated with that. They just stand around with giant shoulders, no hips, an artificially narrow and clockable waist, no boobs, and because Corset I’m meant to understand and go along with the subtext, but there ain’t any subtext, it’s just a guy in fetish wear. May as well be fulsom street fair. Hest case scenario he’s a straight guy who wants to pimp you out, worst case he wants dick from every direction while dressed up in the woman disguise buffalo bill style

 

[batteredpancakes]

I've seen these people argue that asexual people can still have a high sex drive and still be called asexual.

Those people are just revealing they have some form of psychopathy. They look at romance between couples and don't relate at all so they assume they must be asexual for not being interested in emotional connection. But they still have a sexual drive so they come to the conclusion that you can be asexual and like sex.

If your wondering why they don't just identify as aromantic instead. It's because they don't have any real concept of love so their idea of love is quite intrinsically tied to sex for them. They can't understand love beyond the sex association. To them, love means sex so everything concerning this idea of love must have sex involved.

I reckon this is why incest is becoming a big trend in media/porn now. It's because psychopaths struggle to differentiate between types of love.

Oh any don't forget the bonus that identifying as asexual allows AGPs to appear less predatory amongst naive people.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

I wonder how the celebrities of Hollywood would react if they found out that everything they've been promoting for the TQ+ has been horribly wrong and they have been horribly misled and that the people who they've dismissed as bigot have been right all along. That is going to massively sting since unlike normal people, they've done it in the public eye, and nowadays people have been archiving posts, screenshots, and archiving videos that prove they've done it. Goddamn, we may live to see Hollywood go back to contracts stipulating conduct to rein in some of the more crazy activist type actors.

If, and this a big if, they found out that the 'conservative bigots' were right about the 'trans' kids, do you think they'll pivot to starting to promote detrans causes to make up for the horrible atrocities they've been promoting? Or will the political figures, actors, and singers pay someone to sweep everything under the rug and pretend they've never supported it?

 

[█████████]

Those people are just revealing they have some form of psychopathy. They look at romance between couples and don't relate at all so they assume they must be asexual for not being interested in emotional connection.

Hit the nail on the head. A lot of people don't realize that psychopathy can be misdiagnosed as autism or that personality disorders can be comorbid with autism.

If your wondering why they don't just identify as aromantic instead. It's because they don't have any real concept of love so their idea of love is quite intrinsically tied to sex for them. They can't understand love beyond the sex association. To them, love means sex so everything concerning this idea of love must have sex involved.

Yep. These are the types of people who break up if you're not willing to entertain their degenerate piss diaperplay or whatever. Or they leave their spouses when their spouses get cancer. Or they're an r/polyamory user who treats their spouse like garbage and thinks watching more polyamory lectures and adding more people into their polycule will fix their relationship. "Asexual spectrum" people tend to also be poly, and I will die on the hill that polyamory is never healthy and it's something only psychopaths do.

Oh any don't forget the bonus that identifying as asexual allows AGPs to appear less predatory amongst naive people.

Also this. A lot of AGPs use this as a strategy to gain women's trust or to dodge allegations. "I can't be a rapist pedophile, I'm asexual!"

 

[Steak Tartare]

Am I misunderstanding or is this not a pretty typical component of hetero male sexuality?

Hetero male + also all people on the planet are either straight, gay, bisexual, or one of the incredibly rare asexuals. Which ever one of those you are, the human that is a match for your sexuality is also a match for your romantic interests. Ex, a gay man would be presumed to have sex with men and to be romantically interested in men. This example gay man might like goth men and male furries and football players but all of those interests are male.

The Split Attraction Model supposes that people can hold different orientations simultaneously. Is a mix 'n match (straight, gay, bisexual, asexual) sexual interest, with (straight, gay, bisexual, asexual) romanic interest. Theoretically someone could be romantically gay and sexually straight but most of the world just calls this bisexuality because who gives a shit exactly what percentage your romance level is to one sex vs the other.

In practice it's always stuff like this- A gay man that exclusively has sex with men and has only dated men, but thinks he would be fine in a sexless marriage with his female bff because they're such good friends. Well with all these fun and funky new words, if that gay man was a cluster B he could choose to call himself a homosexual biromantic. This approach says romance and sex interests have different full sexualities.
It's all very silly and can be a cover up for fear of intimacy/ lack of success in dating/ not addressing baggage/ qweer asspats. Straight virgins can be fluffed up to "heterosexual biromantic" (because they'll never date and it's easy to lie) with this taxonomy, and people who have same sex best friends can be fluffed up to "asexual homoromantic", etc etc.
So yah there's variance in the types of people hetero men (and everyone imo) are interested in, but the diff is the scale of having a type vs holding multiple orientations making you part of the kuhweer kummunity.

 

[Paper Machete]

Romantic interest follows from sexual attraction. You cannot have romantic interest in someone you wouldn't also fuck. People are just tarded and think sexual interest and sexuality is a narrow definition, just the simplistic logistics of fucking so anything that is attached to that but isn't explicit ugly bumping must therefor be some sort of complicated wilderness. It's not.

It's also why people start reverse engineering what being friends is and are confused about feeling strong connection to someone but it being platonic and they call this some sort of romance (it's absolutely not). And then also go on long winded tangents about how XYZ can totes be platonic because, again, they're reinventing the wheel with regards to what friends are.

It's all very pathetic and all very sad. Mostly pathetic though.

 

[FOUND YOU!]

What gets me is that I've seen these people argue that asexual people can still have a high sex drive and still be called asexual. Their reasoning from what I remember correctly was that its the "Sexual attraction" they have towards people.

I typically chalk this up to stage 5 terminal porn sickness. They've gooned so hard for so long and melted their brains. They step outside (on the odd occasion) and feel nothing because there's no hyper-sexed cartoon animal or whatever paraphilia they've sacrificed their life to. That doesn't change the fact that you can find them in the odd hours cranking it to imagery that wouldn't be out of place in the necronomicon.

Or will the political figures, actors, and singers pay someone to sweep everything under the rug and pretend they've never supported it?

Worse, they won't even have to pay anyone to cover it up. It'll be swallowed by the willful amnesia of team politics. Some percentage of especially expendable experts will be thrown under the bus, and all the ringleaders and conductors will continue as they always have. The only people who will care to remember will be their politically motivated enemies and the victims they leave behind.

 

[Blanche Devereaux]

I had the chance to catch up this weekend with a friend who, for well over a decade, has been active in the drag scene in his city, up until last year. He effectively took a break from it and blamed it on creative burnout, but then admitted to me last night he's made the decision to retire. While he did struggle to maintain passion in the last few years, he began to lose interest after lockdown,
when an influx of college-age pooners and enbys, who were welcomed as a courtesy and kind of a merciful "aww these poor kids" sort of way, were suddenly infiltrating competitions and meet-ups, ruining fucking everything and taking the fun out of the experience because they're all highly sensitive and low-effort. I haven't personally been to a drag show in ages, so I wonder if this is just a local thing or if drag culture is the next casualty of trans-inclusivity.

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

I haven't personally been to a drag show in ages, so I wonder if this is just a local thing or if drag culture is the next casualty of trans-inclusivity.

Nope, not local. Pretty much anywhere big enough to have a drag 'scene' and not just a once in a while gig has been victim to this in varying degrees. Sexually abused women and porn-brained fujos who want to desperately be gay men have been more of a blight on gays than bachelorette parties in gay bars ever were.

I know a former drag queen who lived in Washington who kept up with the scene since he retired after leaving LA (some hilarious stories there) and he said this was a horrible problem up there. He told me stories about a guy who would pick up young, vulnerable girls at shows, date them, they'd poon out and/or dye their hair and get piercings, then eventually start performing in smaller shows. He witnessed this several times.

 

[Sprocket]

Those people are just revealing they have some form of psychopathy. They look at romance between couples and don't relate at all so they assume they must be asexual for not being interested in emotional connection. But they still have a sexual drive so they come to the conclusion that you can be asexual and like sex.

Nah, I think they just want the label to get into the club and get the social clout.

 

[bouquetnine]

Why do troon always have the greasy curly hair. Most of them have very curled hair and I only see it in agp community .

They're jews. Jews are overwhelmingly: fags, narcissists, and abusers. So you're going to see a lot of their faces as they garner attention and try to wield their influence to bully others.

 

[bouquetnine]

I wonder how the celebrities of Hollywood would react if they found out that everything they've been promoting for the TQ+ has been horribly wrong and they have been horribly misled and that the people who they've dismissed as bigot have been right all along. That is going to massively sting since unlike normal people, they've done it in the public eye, and nowadays people have been archiving posts, screenshots, and archiving videos that prove they've done it. Goddamn, we may live to see Hollywood go back to contracts stipulating conduct to rein in some of the more crazy activist type actors.

If, and this a big if, they found out that the 'conservative bigots' were right about the 'trans' kids, do you think they'll pivot to starting to promote detrans causes to make up for the horrible atrocities they've been promoting? Or will the political figures, actors, and singers pay someone to sweep everything under the rug and pretend they've never supported it?

We've already seen how all of that will play out with covid. 5 years ago everyone was calling all of the people doubting an experimental new treatment (mRNA) all sorts of bad names. And now most people pretend like it never happened. We're supposed to believe that they were just caught up in the frenzy and trusted the system too much. Nothing is going to happy to the pro-tranny people either. We might get a tranny-analogue to Clott Adams but it will just be an insult only a few people know.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

We've already seen how all of that will play out with covid. 5 years ago everyone was calling all of the people doubting an experimental new treatment (mRNA) all sorts of bad names. And now most people pretend like it never happened. We're supposed to believe that they were just caught up in the frenzy and trusted the system too much. Nothing is going to happy to the pro-tranny people either. We might get a tranny-analogue to Clott Adams but it will just be an insult only a few people know.

I think between Covid and this, there is quite a big difference between them. Covid, you can't really tell who and who didn't get the shot by looking at them. The same is not true if the celebs had a kid on hormones, blockers, and had them get surgeries. You can look and see who got hormones and blockers by using your eyeballs, and a non-significant numbers of celebs have a T-kid or an NB kid that does hormones. Really hard to sweep it under the rug when it's your own child that you've publicly trooned out in front of millions.

Normal people can easily DFE when the shit hits the fan if they didn't have a TQ+ kid, the same goes for celebs without one too if they only did the milquetoast support. The same is not true for parents of a TQ+ kid, whether it be celebrity or normal parent. They'll have to live with the knowledge they royally fucked up for the rest of their lives if they find out they were lied to, and in turn led others down the same path. And I'm including the activists who made their careers and life revolve around fighting for this particular cause.

tl;dr: It's easier to see the consequences of this TQ+ cause than it is to see the jabs consequences. Not that their weren't consequences of the jab too.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

I had the chance to catch up this weekend with a friend who, for well over a decade, has been active in the drag scene in his city, up until last year. He effectively took a break from it and blamed it on creative burnout, but then admitted to me last night he's made the decision to retire. While he did struggle to maintain passion in the last few years, he began to lose interest after lockdown,
when an influx of college-age pooners and enbys, who were welcomed as a courtesy and kind of a merciful "aww these poor kids" sort of way, were suddenly infiltrating competitions and meet-ups, ruining fucking everything and taking the fun out of the experience because they're all highly sensitive and low-effort. I haven't personally been to a drag show in ages, so I wonder if this is just a local thing or if drag culture is the next casualty of trans-inclusivity.

With luck more people will come around to the fact that having an exclusive culture and protecting it by saying No to entryism, ain't a bad thing.

The primary goal of entryism is to shift the target organization’s policies, values, or direction in line with the infiltrating group’s objectives.

Beware suicidal empathy. Not everyone gets a pony. Not yours, at any rate. Nor should they.

 

[bouquetnine]

tl;dr: It's easier to see the consequences of this TQ+ cause than it is to see the jabs consequences. Not that their weren't consequences of the jab too.

I'm talking about the doctors and "experts" pushing this ideology. The Autists that were sold hormones are victims. The people that sold them the hormones deserve to be hanged. Unfortunately, just like the doctors and experts pushing the jab, I don't think anything will happen to them.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

I'm talking about the doctors and "experts" pushing this ideology. The Autists that were sold hormones are victims. The people that sold them the hormones deserve to be hanged. Unfortunately, just like the doctors and experts pushing the jab, I don't think anything will happen to them.

In that case then a lot of hospitals will find out the hard way that WPATH wasn't an actual medical board that could give medical advice after they've trusted it for so long. At least some of the doctors and "experts" are growing a conscious and trying to prevent more damage because they've been seeing the harm they've done. I wouldn't want to be the doctors or so-called experts coming this following decade. It may lead to a lot of firings, re-trainings, updated contracts with stipulations for the doctor/expert, and full on mandatory informed consent training that follows what informed consent law actually is not just what they think it is.

Speaking of people pushing this ideology, I wonder if TLC could be sued on a class action for kids who saw the "I am Jazz" show and thought they were just like Jazz. Because TLC is complicit in getting this idea of 'trans kids' mainstream for so many people.

 

[batteredpancakes]

If, and this a big if, they found out that the 'conservative bigots' were right about the 'trans' kids, do you think they'll pivot to starting to promote detrans causes to make up for the horrible atrocities they've been promoting? Or will the political figures, actors, and singers pay someone to sweep everything under the rug and pretend they've never supported it?

We already have a good example of this in recent history with celebrities. HIV-AIDS denialism in the West. Plenty of celebrities in the 80s and 90s were arguing that HIV did not lead to AIDS and yet it's extremely difficult to find any concrete evidence of this on the internet; only the most egregious examples get mentioned like the Foo Fighters, even then the archives get deleted. All these celebs quietly swept it under the rug when they lost and refuse to have it be mentioned anywhere.

HIV-AIDS denialism was a bigger movement than what Wikipedia would have you think. If you're born post 90s you probably think this mentality was just an African thing.

 

[bouquetnine]

HIV-AIDS denialism was a bigger movement than what Wikipedia would have you think. If you're born post 90s you probably think this mentality was just an African thing.

This is not a topic I'm familiar with, but could you elaborate on what makes it a big deal? AIDS is still relatively rare and poses practically zero risk to heterosexual people. If someone denies the HIV-AIDS link, what difference does it make? I don't think it will significantly shape homosexual behavior. This doesn't involve a trail of mutilated children. The tranny issue is a way bigger deal.

 

[batteredpancakes]

AIDS is still relatively rare

You are very unaware of the AIDS epidemic you should really do some reading.

AIDS/HIV killed hundreds of thousands of people in the USA alone during the 80s and 90s before we figured out anti-retrovirals. Anti-retrovirals basically made HIV harmless so the epidemic subsided very quickly so the youth now really have no idea how big this was. People would literally riot if they found out a kid with HIV went to the same school as their kid because they thought you could spread HIV from sitting on toilet seats. Princess Diana made headlines just for touching an AIDS patient without gloves when people were scared to even go near them.

AIDS did mostly kill male homosexuals yes but it was killing off many others; nurses, anyone that needed blood transfusions, people with cheating spouses, etc. Ryan White was the poster child and he was a kid getting treatment for hemophilia. Same as the three Ray brothers. Celebrities who got HIV include straight people like Arthur Ashe, Easy E, Amanda Blake, Isaac Asimov and Magic Johnson.

If someone denies the HIV-AIDS link, what difference does it make?

How about the death of children who were infected with HIV because their parents refused to take any precautions nor give them tests or medicine after they were born?

This doesn't involve a trail of mutilated children. The tranny issue is a way bigger deal.

My point was that the HIV/AIDs denial was quietly covered up by the celebrities who pushed it. We can use this to predict how it's going to go for gender ideology when it falls out of favor completely.
So just like before, they will receive no punishment.