I hope TNORA can address this blatant atrocity so that we can have actual gameplay (wars) for paths that don’t end early because of dev being lazy niggers.
There was a mod that addressed this, africa addio, But it got nuked since it was basically a genocide simulator
Kinda. They get annexed by Ostafrika in case they survive the war. If the Schild manage to get all of South Africa the boers also get a civil war of their own.
That's the intention. Finer details will have to wait until I or @Sooty Soot start working on it, but the general idea is to give the Africa tags more to do and paths to victory, as well as give the Superpowers more opportunities to do le evil imperialism in le aprica.
What's really dumb is that the other two Africa RKs get auto-annexed with no way to escape. So there's basically no point to winning because you die anyway. Africa was done dirty.
But don't you see it's thematic and it has parallels with OTL but in a world where Germany won WW2 because the evil kkkolonizers could never hold the proud Afrikan peoples down forever. Just ignore how at the same time fucking Italy will hold onto at least half of the never-ending humanitarian crisis that is the middle east and somehow manages to keep Lybia and Tunisia under their direct control forever. Ostafrika popping up and then exploding is a cool concept but it shouldn't have been scripted and instead be more like Burgundy's: An AI-only thing that happens sometimes if the stars align, since I'm supossed to believe that a victorious Führer that drove the Americans out of Africa entirely can't just dismiss a sextuagenarian who OTL was of so little note that he didn't even get mossaded after the war. It's an extremely funny form of environmental determinism on Panzer's part when you look into it.
Italy keeping libya is not very far fetched. Italians were 13% of the population and 30-40% in the tripoli and benghazi. Keeping up policies they had prewar as well as military backing they are pretty well positioned to keep/integrate it
and people still bitch and moan and say that this libshitted slop is better than DV. You could explain the implications of DV over and over again yet these fucking troglodytes will never understand. “It doesn’t have muh soul!” really nigga? A bunch of shitskins beating yt because their le evil is soul?
That's true but then again pied-noirs were also about 13% of the population of colonial Algeria and we all know what happened to them.
TNO Africa is lame. DV is even more lame since it's the exact same thing in the end but with zero creativity thrown in and no possibility to get better. Africa always had the WAW and the whole Free France / Cameroon tags as a way to make the region interesting, now those two are getting the axe with who knows how many man-hours of dev time wasted.
It really isn’t, You can maintain the colonies in DV, You can restore white supremacy to africa, It just takes time and effort poured into it. Just like it takes effort to tear these regimes down. The main message of nutno is that if you want to tear any system down, It requires effort and determination, Neither fascism or liberalism will be torn down because the devs said that history was going to go this way. The player has to actually try to tear down their enemies rather than delude themselves that their ideology is the end of history and their victory is inevitable
Bhai... Stop shilling DV, kya sohenge log?
Hard to compare. Mostly because all the pro-european movements actually have superpower backing and governments that would keep the fight going. Since the international community/law is also less far spread than otl there would also be less calls for sanctions and global outrage about atrocities committed during these wars. It would be hard to imagine Germany not supporting France or Italy in these wars considering the amount of oil and gas both territories hold which especially during the oil crisis are of great use.
DV is just okay as a stand alone thing. The biggest gripe I have with it is how it destroys the vibe old TNO had and of course the excessive amount of wiki scraping that the fucking content has
What even was the vibe of old tno? Because I remember it being very retarded. Just the facts (before he got exposed as a creep) made a video about how they basically butchered every character in the mod because they wanted to do a francis fukuyama end of history type story since that’s what the devs politics was.
The retardation was part of the charm. It always felt like a weird pseudo-grimdark low sci-fi universe with the whacky shit it had going on. Sungun, atlantropa, Mars landing, zhdanov laser tank, etc
France was effectively strongarmed into giving up Algeria and throwing the pied-noirs under the bus. Italian Libya on the other hand, has no real threats.
Hasn’t that shit been beaten to death by things like iron sky, man in the high castle, wolfenstein etc? Look I get that has an appeal but how many titles actually approach an axis victory honestly? Besides fatherland I really can’t name any. Nazis have been cartoon villains for going on 80 years now, Do we have to keep up the tradition of lying about history to maintain a dying myth?
look I get that this opinion is controversial here, but i’ve never gotten a convincing reason as to why it’s wrong. If it’s just your own personal preference that’s fine, But at least state that. Because if we’re talking from simply a pure writing and lore standpoint, new tno is better.
Its still an end of history scenario even in the newest version. "Fascism" or "Democracy" winning the coldwar does not matter since the NU-devs view modern establishment conservatism/liberalism as equivalent to Hitler. Win or Lose the cold war it doesnt matter. The world is destinied to converge to the modern worldview of the Devs which is le hecking evil white supremacy (with mass immigration & lgptq+ characteristics).
