Pet Sematary (2019)

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Alto dijo:
He wasn't even in it. He got a mention in a newspaper clipping. The wendigo got a lousy picture in a book and MAYBE some movement in the trees (it was hard to tell). Pascow was borderline pointless and Zelda felt disconnected from the whole narrative.
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So what you're telling me is the movie somehow fucked things up more than the first movie? I didn't think that was possible.
 
I was actually planning on seeing this with a buddy last night, since I loved the original movie when I saw it as a kid, and have since read the book (which can be legitimately creepy in points, though like alot of King's other work it's got a lot of fat that needs trimming). I decided to try a trailer first, and thank fuck I did. As has been pointed out already on this thread, changing which child dies is just a baffling decision, and from the sounds of it they didn't do anything interesting with it when they did. Also, the kids running around in animal masks like they're on a day trip off of Rapture really did not help sell the movie, at least to me. We just wound up seeing SHAZAM! instead, which was a lot of fun.
 
Folks made a Pet Sematery a few years back, before the Stephen King license went sour. Ayuh.
 
Baldur's Gait dijo:
The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, and Stand by Me all beg to differ.
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Yeah, I think the key factor in whether a Stephen King film is shit or not is how deeply involved Stephen King is with the production

If he has zero or absolute minimum involvement the film has a great chance of being fantastic since a director and screenwriter is able to translate his hokey-cringe dialogue and random-access ideas into a workable script which can bring out the best aspects of the wider stories he creates. Examples include Kubrick's The Shining, The Shawshank Redemption, and The Mist.

If he is deeply involved, especially with writing the film; then it will usually be an ungodly mess and at best will be extremely mediocre, with the worst specimen probably being King's Shining miniseries and the best maybe being The Stand due to the scope of the story almost inherently raising what could have been a boring mess into something more memorable.

As I have said before, Stephen King can be outstanding when it comes to writing a story and general plotline, but his actual writing of dialogue and certain plot details is mixed at best in my mind, and this is why his books are best used as a somewhat loose basis for a film/series rather than a line for line recreation.
 
Baldur's Gait dijo:
The Green Mile, Shawshank Redemption, and Stand by Me all beg to differ.
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Also Carrie and Misery.

I saw it last night and liked it well enough. I hadn't seen the trailers, which sounds like a good decision from what people are describing, because they sound like they give way too much away. I've read the book but a long time ago, and I never saw the original film.
Edit: Having watched the trailers now - don't. If you're at all interested in the film, don't watch the trailers, at least any but the first one. Because they don't just give too much away, they're almost all footage from the end of the movie. You'll definitely be disappointed if you've seen them first.

I think Pet Sematary is one of King's more horrifying works, but I don't know how effectively you could make the horror of Gage being a killer work well in a movie. My understanding of the first adaptation is that it's lots of awkward special effects, and what they'd need to do is get the kid as he is in this film, a toddler who isn't acting, and yet still have him do a lot of things it would be very difficult to do, from the stabbing to walking like an adult in a toddler's body to all the other things that you can imagine, but recreating would be near-impossible to do effectively.

To @Bush did USS Maine 's questions, the first truck scare is foreshadowing that the road is dangerous because of the carelessness of truck drivers. The point of the toddler running towards the road when the girl is right there is because in the book, it's the boy who dies, not the girl, and so anyone who knows the story is expecting him to get crushed, not her. John Lithgow's motivation is that he was well-meaning, but even though he knew the Pet Sematary was a terrible spot, once you know about it you feel a sort of compulsion to spread that knowledge to someone else, rationalising it and talking yourself into it because the place itself wants people to use it, to bring them back.
The black ghost dude and the Wendigo? Don't know. Don't remember the book well enough. Maybe he felt the need to protect the doctor but not the others? There was a thing about how if you bring someone back, they also come back yours somehow, which might explain why Ellie seemed fine with her father at first but immediately wanted to kill her mother. As for undead being stronger, they usually are, as well as not worrying so much about things like pain. Add that to the difficulty of fighting something that looks like a loved one, and them being armed while you're not, and trying to protect the boy while doing so, and I get why the fight ends the way it does.

Overall, because I didn't remember the fine details, just the overall plot, I didn't mind the changes because it kept me on my toes as to what could happen, as well as making the toddler a constant source of concern; I don't remember how the older sister fares in the book, I'm presuming not well, but we expect even a child of six or seven to able to fight for self-preservation - run, hide, follow basic instructions, call for help. But a toddler can do enough to get themselves in trouble, unlike a baby, but not enough to actually protect themselves.

I thought the acting was good. My knowledge going in might have been exactly the target audience, because I only remember the broad outline of what happens so any deviations could surprise me. I didn't think it was particularly special, and things like the cat didn't always work - oh, the cat scratched you for no reason? Welcome to a lot of owner's every single day - but I thought it was decent enough, and I liked the ending.
 
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I saw the movie today. The movie reminded me of of a below average Goosebumps episode.
 
I just read the sypnosys for both films and every change makes no sense, from everything said here to the ending being changed (what happened to the daughter in the 1989 version? It stop mentionning before the mom decide to go back) and have theusual suspect reeed the token black guy dies first and both is useless and not listened to? I mean in original Pascow was a white jogger that tries to tell stupid dad to not go and not use the cemetary multipl timex to stop the evil effects of it from being used or to stop using it and to accept death, the change is dub for the sake of change
 
Bush did USS Maine dijo:
[*]I don't understand the old dude's motivation. I just kinda assumed he was "creepy old guy" character who would be evil, and he was the one who had the father bury the cat, but he seemed to be friendly to the family and genuinely like them, yet still helped bring the pet back to life seemingly knowing nothing good could come from it? I mean, he states "Well, my dog came back bad, but he had a mean streak, I thought the cat was nicer so it might work out", yet the movie also implies that he brought his wife back by burying there and that didn't go well either. He never tells the father this, of course. And if he had good and pure motivations trying to help bring the cat back, why is he so shady about it when he takes the dad to bury the cat in the first place? Really baffling.
[*]Speaking of baffling characters, the black ghost dude? First he tells dad "some boundaries shouldn't be crossed", then he brings dad to the burial ground area in a dream sequence, then when dad goes to bury daughter he tries warning dad against doing so, then we last see him telling mom and baby to go home to their death? Who even was he? As far as I could tell he was just some random college student. Why is he warning the father about the boundaries? Does he know the future? How does he know of the burial ground? Was this something more important in the book? My assumption after I left the theater was there were 2 versions of this spirit, one good and one evil, or something. It's the only way I could make sense of it.
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Judson was motivated by the force that lived on that land. The power woke up when the Creed family moved to the property. Jud loved Louis like a son - the place used them both. Ludlow lived under the influence of that power since before the village existed. The old Micmac burial ground, where Church is first buried, went 'sour' after being touched by a Wendigo. A Wendigo is a forest demon whose touch makes cannibals. The indigenous people abandoned it, and the power that dwelled there would lie dormant until the Creed family appeared.

They made Pascow black? Of course they did. Good grief. Anyway, Pascow was neither a friend or an enemy, he was an emissary for some other force. Stephen King would call it 'The White'. He was sent to warn Louis against crossing the barrier. He came to Louis again, but Louis banished him. Later he would come to Ellie with a warning. He had no power to interfere. Pascow and Louis were connected by death.
 
Zaryiu dijo:
I just read the sypnosys for both films and every change makes no sense, from everything said here to the ending being changed (what happened to the daughter in the 1989 version? It stop mentionning before the mom decide to go back) and have theusual suspect reeed the token black guy dies first and both is useless and not listened to? I mean in original Pascow was a white jogger that tries to tell stupid dad to not go and not use the cemetary multipl timex to stop the evil effects of it from being used or to stop using it and to accept death, the change is dub for the sake of change
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Think in the book and 80's version the daughter was at her grandparents for Thanksgiving, the mom rushed back since Ellie kept having bad dreams about what was happening so she survived. The sequel made a reference to her like an urban legend saying she went nuts and ran away from her grandparents after she heard what happened.
 
XYZpdq dijo:
Was half-watching the old movie with somebody on cytube and we were discussing the idea that maybe Old Guy figured that cats are mostly assholes anyway so if the cat came back evil like everything else nobody would really notice the difference.
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A minor plot point in the book was that the cat was recently neutered and had become passive. Everyone noticed he was acting differently, and could sense some vague evilness, but couldn't figure out why.
 
Baldur's Gait dijo:
A minor plot point in the book was that the cat was recently neutered and had become passive. Everyone noticed he was acting differently, and could sense some vague evilness, but couldn't figure out why.
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I haven't read the book since Bush Sr was president so you could tell me the Wogglebug shows up in it and I wouldn't know any better.
 
Is this on streaming media yet? I'm not going to waste my time on another King adaptation, which are like 99% shit. I'll watch this while I ride the train.
 
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