US Pentagon warns military members DNA kits pose ‘personal and operational risks’

Pentagon warns military members DNA kits pose ‘personal and operational risks’
https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon...personal-and-operational-risks-173304318.html (http://archive.vn/doQNe)

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is advising members of the military not to use consumer DNA kits, saying the information collected by private companies could pose a security risk, according to a memo co-signed by the Defense Department’s top intelligence official.

A growing number of companies like 23andMe and Ancestry sell testing kits that allow buyers to get a DNA profile by sending in a cheek swab or saliva sample. The DNA results provide consumers information on their ancestry, insights into possible medical risks and can even identify previously unknown family members.

The boom in popularity of such kits has raised ethical and legal issues, since some companies have shared this data with law enforcement or sold it to third parties. The Defense Department is now expressing its own concerns about these kits.

“Exposing sensitive genetic information to outside parties poses personal and operational risks to Service members,” says the Dec. 20 memo signed by Joseph D. Kernan, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, and James N. Stewart, the assistant secretary of defense for manpower.

The memo — which says that some DNA kit companies have been targeting military personnel with discounts — appears to have been distributed widely within the Defense Department, though it has not previously been made public. The memo was obtained by Yahoo News.

“These [direct-to-consumer] genetic tests are largely unregulated and could expose personal and genetic information, and potentially create unintended security consequences and increased risk to the joint force and mission,” states the memo.

The memo provides little details on how genetic profiles could endanger security, other than noting that potential “inaccuracies” in health information could pose a risk to military personnel, who are required to report medical issues. Most of the health reports provided by DNA companies typically pertain to medical risks, though, such as a predisposition to cancer, rather than diagnosing a condition.

However, the involvement of the Pentagon’s intelligence chief in the issue points to broader concerns about biometrics — like DNA, fingerprints and facial recognition — which have been crucial in helping the U.S. identify potential enemies but also expose U.S. national security personnel to identification by other countries.

U.S. intelligence officials are increasingly concerned about how DNA testing will affect their ability to operate worldwide, says a former senior intelligence official, who pointed to the rise of DNA swab tests at some international airports as one factor in a decline in CIA personnel using aliases while travelling abroad.

Erin Murphy, a professor at New York University’s School of Law, says she’s heard about concerns that a foreign government with suspicions about someone operating inside their country — like a potential spy — could use a commercial genetic database to unmask the person. “It all boils down to the same basic idea,” she says. “In a world in which a few stray cells can be used to identify a person, there is no such thing as a covert action, and no such thing as anonymity.”

One possible scenario, Murphy says, would be for someone to use genetic information to track down covert operatives involved in a high-level foreign military operation, such as the killing of Osama bin Laden, in order to exact revenge. “It’s not hard to imagine a world where people are blithely sharing information online without realizing their third cousin is a Navy SEAL, or an operative of the CIA.”

The Pentagon did not respond to specific questions raised by Yahoo News about the memo, but offered a general statement about its purpose: "We want to ensure all service members are aware of the risks of Direct to Consumer (DTC) genetic testing," said Jessica Maxwell, a Defense Department spokesperson.

For consumers turning to commercial companies for DNA profiles, one of the primary concerns has been about privacy, and the potential for others to exploit personal data, or somehow use it in ways that wasn’t intended, particularly as the size of the private DNA databases has grown. Ancestry boasts some 15 million users, while 23andMe says it has 10 million.

In response to a query from Yahoo News, a spokesperson for Ancestry said the company does not offer military discounts. The spokesperson also said the company has taken a number of measures to protect users’ privacy.

“Protecting our customers’ privacy and being good stewards of their data is Ancestry’s highest priority. Ancestry does not share customer DNA data with insurers, employers, or third-party marketers,” the spokesperson said in an emailed statement. “Ancestry will also not share customer personal information with law enforcement unless compelled to by valid legal process, such as a court order or search warrant.”

In response to queries from Yahoo News, 23andMe defended its privacy protection, and took issue with concerns over security. “All of our customers should be assured we take the utmost efforts to protect their privacy, and that the results we provide are highly accurate,” a spokesman wrote in a statement. “Our FDA-authorized health reports have been tested at over 99% accuracy. All of our testing is done in the U.S., and we do not share information with third parties without separate, explicit consent from our customers.”

Now even the Pentagon appears to recognize this potential threat. “[T]here is increased concern in the scientific community that outside parties are exploiting the use of genetic data for questionable purposes, including mass surveillance and the ability to track individuals without their authorization or awareness,” says the memo.

The Pentagon’s concerns about genetics and surveillance might be viewed by some as ironic, since the Defense Department has its own massive repository of DNA. Following the 1991 Gulf War, the Pentagon began a mandatory DNA collection program for members of the military in order to identify remains of someone killed in conflict.

The Pentagon also collects DNA samples from terrorists and others detained on the battlefield. Most famously, the U.S. military identified Osama bin Laden’s body after he was killed by Navy SEALS in 2011, reportedly using a sample collected from a family member of the Al Qaeda leader. (After bin Laden’s death, the New York Times revealed that the CIA had organized a phony vaccination program in Pakistan in an attempt to collect DNA from the compound where bin Laden was hiding.)

And earlier this year, the Pentagon said it used DNA testing to confirm the death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State group. The U.S. government had collected al-Baghdadi’s DNA when he was detained by coalition forces in Iraq more than a decade ago.

It may be that the Pentagon’s newfound concern over DNA kits is based on the belief that a hostile country or group could use DNA in the same manner that the U.S. government often uses it: to target enemies. Earlier this year, the chief of naval operations said at a public event that DNA from consumer testing kits might be used in the future for tailorable biological weapons, a concern that most experts regard as far-fetched.

In either case, the Defense Department appears to not want to take that chance.

“Until notified otherwise, DoD military personnel are advised to refrain from the purchase and/or use of DTC [direct to consumer] genetic services,” the memo says.
 
I see word has finally gotten around to top brass about the deaths at Shadow Moses Island...
 
I know a super woke progtard who is all over 23andme because he's so blindingly amused by the ability of people to reveal that they have 2% native or 3% black blood or whatever. "We're all connected so racism doesn't make sense!" ... never mind that he's a brainless tool handing his private info over to these shady corporations, but given the kind of progtarded crap I hear from its customersI have to wonder how truthful they'll be about what your genetic history actually is. I have a sneaking suspicion that 23andme fudges facts about your genes the same way snopes fudges facts about political claims and rumors. They're both after an ideological goal.
 
My personal theory why DNA and public family trees could be dangerous is that it would make it easier for The Bad Guys (whoever it is that week) to target your family if you cross them. I mean, do we really think anyone wants to build supersoldiers out of anyone we know?
 
I know a super woke progtard who is all over 23andme because he's so blindingly amused by the ability of people to reveal that they have 2% native or 3% black blood or whatever. "We're all connected so racism doesn't make sense!" ... never mind that he's a brainless tool handing his private info over to these shady corporations, but given the kind of progtarded crap I hear from its customersI have to wonder how truthful they'll be about what your genetic history actually is. I have a sneaking suspicion that 23andme fudges facts about your genes the same way snopes fudges facts about political claims and rumors. They're both after an ideological goal.
I can't remember where I heard it but you're essentially correct; some of them give you a questionnaire and then "tailor" your results based on that. When it comes to percentages around 1% you're essentially dealing with the genetic equivalent of noise, but they'll highlight them for you if they believe that's what you want to hear.
 
I can't remember where I heard it but you're essentially correct; some of them give you a questionnaire and then "tailor" your results based on that. When it comes to percentages around 1% you're essentially dealing with the genetic equivalent of noise, but they'll highlight them for you if they believe that's what you want to hear.
South Park was correct. "I'm 14% victim! Well, I'm 22% victim!"
 
There is an excellent potential for liferuin from an Ancestry kit, and you probably shouldn't be able to buy yourself that amount of possible trouble for 99 quid without having it explained in foot high letters why this might be a Very Bad Idea not just for you, but for those you are related to, and that the data you are providing will belong to someone else.

This is the part that makes it worse than your average consumer data giveaway. Loss of privacy doesn't just affect the person giving up their privacy, it inevitably affects people areound them.

You can live your life avoiding the big data grabbers, hiding behind your 7 proxies, no social media, living a properly private life so the haxx0rs can't doxx0r you if shit ever gets real... then one Thanksgiving your mom announces "I did a 23andMe and found the exact village in Bumblefuck Nowhere that my great-grandparents came from!"

And now your DNA can be taken from any random encounter on the street and linked to your direct parent. Lovely.
 
I know a super woke progtard who is all over 23andme because he's so blindingly amused by the ability of people to reveal that they have 2% native or 3% black blood or whatever. "We're all connected so racism doesn't make sense!" ... never mind that he's a brainless tool handing his private info over to these shady corporations, but given the kind of progtarded crap I hear from its customersI have to wonder how truthful they'll be about what your genetic history actually is. I have a sneaking suspicion that 23andme fudges facts about your genes the same way snopes fudges facts about political claims and rumors. They're both after an ideological goal.

There have been rumors to that affect for a while, snopes calls is mostly false but if you read the full article, it's not as clear-cut as they're trying to make it seem in the summary section and that's assuming you take these companies at their word (for whatever reason).
 
It may be that the Pentagon’s newfound concern over DNA kits is based on the belief that a hostile country or group could use DNA in the same manner that the U.S. government often uses it: to target enemies. Earlier this year, the chief of naval operations said at a public event that DNA from consumer testing kits might be used in the future for tailorable biological weapons, a concern that most experts regard as far-fetched.

> far-fetched

Gabe tried to warn us.

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This is the part that makes it worse than your average consumer data giveaway. Loss of privacy doesn't just affect the person giving up their privacy, it inevitably affects people areound them.

You can live your life avoiding the big data grabbers, hiding behind your 7 proxies, no social media, living a properly private life so the haxx0rs can't doxx0r you if shit ever gets real... then one Thanksgiving your mom announces "I did a 23andMe and found the exact village in Bumblefuck Nowhere that my great-grandparents came from!"

And now your DNA can be taken from any random encounter on the street and linked to your direct parent. Lovely.

I've read multiple recent accounts of cold case murders being solved by cross referencing crime scene DNA against the DNA of relatives that has been uploaded to commercial databases. These companies freely cooperate with law enforcement, and the company policies and legal protections involved seem murky at best.

Of course, catching serial killers is good. However, anyplace you leave identifiable samples of DNA can place you there now, with gathering and sorting that information becoming simpler with time. I imagine the effect will be a bit like the introduction of fingerprinting into criminology, but the potential dangers to privacy are there. Once information is out in the wild, it's out there forever.

Of course, this is the ground floor on developing techniques to spread false DNA information to do a variety of interesting things.

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I imagine the effect will be a bit like the introduction of fingerprinting into criminology, but the potential dangers to privacy are there. Once information is out in the wild, it's out there forever.

I'm more worried about the eventual casual access by citizens. Internet autists identified the bike lock basher while his face was covered, and identified both Dreadlock Antifa Girl who went out hunting "100 Nazi scalps" and the white supremacist who punched her. They did that just with social media pictures.

"LOL it's all public info, dumbasses shouldn't have posted on the Internet." Yes, damn straight. Kiwi Farms' approach to doxing and compiling public info is proper karma for the people who sperg online without thinking it through.

Now imagine the autists get access to not just social media image searches and facial recognition, but also to a DNA database. When someone who doesn't spew their image all over social media goes out, has a heated gamer moment, and goes viral, suddenly all their privacy-preserving precautions won't matter. And it's only a matter of time before this kind of data is accessible or purchasable, just like your demographics are to Facebook advertisers.
 
I'm more worried about the eventual casual access by citizens. Internet autists identified the bike lock basher while his face was covered, and identified both Dreadlock Antifa Girl who went out hunting "100 Nazi scalps" and the white supremacist who punched her. They did that just with social media pictures.

"LOL it's all public info, dumbasses shouldn't have posted on the Internet." Yes, damn straight. Kiwi Farms' approach to doxing and compiling public info is proper karma for the people who sperg online without thinking it through.

Now imagine the autists get access to not just social media image searches and facial recognition, but also to a DNA database. When someone who doesn't spew their image all over social media goes out, has a heated gamer moment, and goes viral, suddenly all their privacy-preserving precautions won't matter. And it's only a matter of time before this kind of data is accessible or purchasable, just like your demographics are to Facebook advertisers.
And combine it with the other genie that won't ever return to the bottle, deepfakes. It's bad enough someone with a grudge can use protools to fake you saying racist shit when you didn't just by sampling your voice a bit. Imagine when righteous autists forge diagnoses that you've got a degenerative disease. Or that say you're the father of a baby whose mother you've never met.
 
I'm more worried about the eventual casual access by citizens. Internet autists identified the bike lock basher while his face was covered, and identified both Dreadlock Antifa Girl who went out hunting "100 Nazi scalps" and the white supremacist who punched her. They did that just with social media pictures.

"LOL it's all public info, dumbasses shouldn't have posted on the Internet." Yes, damn straight. Kiwi Farms' approach to doxing and compiling public info is proper karma for the people who sperg online without thinking it through.

Now imagine the autists get access to not just social media image searches and facial recognition, but also to a DNA database. When someone who doesn't spew their image all over social media goes out, has a heated gamer moment, and goes viral, suddenly all their privacy-preserving precautions won't matter. And it's only a matter of time before this kind of data is accessible or purchasable, just like your demographics are to Facebook advertisers.
Advertisements specified for your DNA? What would that look like I wonder.
 
In theory yes? You would need to target a whole ethnic group however (such as East Asian or European) so its not really something you can control and it would likely mutate pretty quick.

It's also 6000% war crime and doing that is the best way to get everyone to agree its perfectly reasonable to nuke you out of existence.
They can't nuke you out of existence if you virus them to death first.
 
WSJ has a story where women in a family took a genetic test for cancer, they all had markers for breasts and cancer of the womb. all of them removed their breast and wombs.

some years later the genetic company came back and said the markers might not be as important as they thought. the article is the women crying about not being able to have kids,etc.
 
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