US Pentagon warns military members DNA kits pose ‘personal and operational risks’

Pentagon warns military members DNA kits pose ‘personal and operational risks’
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WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is advising members of the military not to use consumer DNA kits, saying the information collected by private companies could pose a security risk, according to a memo co-signed by the Defense Department’s top intelligence official.

A growing number of companies like 23andMe and Ancestry sell testing kits that allow buyers to get a DNA profile by sending in a cheek swab or saliva sample. The DNA results provide consumers information on their ancestry, insights into possible medical risks and can even identify previously unknown family members.

The boom in popularity of such kits has raised ethical and legal issues, since some companies have shared this data with law enforcement or sold it to third parties. The Defense Department is now expressing its own concerns about these kits.

“Exposing sensitive genetic information to outside parties poses personal and operational risks to Service members,” says the Dec. 20 memo signed by Joseph D. Kernan, the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, and James N. Stewart, the assistant secretary of defense for manpower.

The memo — which says that some DNA kit companies have been targeting military personnel with discounts — appears to have been distributed widely within the Defense Department, though it has not previously been made public. The memo was obtained by Yahoo News.

“These [direct-to-consumer] genetic tests are largely unregulated and could expose personal and genetic information, and potentially create unintended security consequences and increased risk to the joint force and mission,” states the memo.

The memo provides little details on how genetic profiles could endanger security, other than noting that potential “inaccuracies” in health information could pose a risk to military personnel, who are required to report medical issues. Most of the health reports provided by DNA companies typically pertain to medical risks, though, such as a predisposition to cancer, rather than diagnosing a condition.

However, the involvement of the Pentagon’s intelligence chief in the issue points to broader concerns about biometrics — like DNA, fingerprints and facial recognition — which have been crucial in helping the U.S. identify potential enemies but also expose U.S. national security personnel to identification by other countries.

U.S. intelligence officials are increasingly concerned about how DNA testing will affect their ability to operate worldwide, says a former senior intelligence official, who pointed to the rise of DNA swab tests at some international airports as one factor in a decline in CIA personnel using aliases while travelling abroad.

Erin Murphy, a professor at New York University’s School of Law, says she’s heard about concerns that a foreign government with suspicions about someone operating inside their country — like a potential spy — could use a commercial genetic database to unmask the person. “It all boils down to the same basic idea,” she says. “In a world in which a few stray cells can be used to identify a person, there is no such thing as a covert action, and no such thing as anonymity.”

One possible scenario, Murphy says, would be for someone to use genetic information to track down covert operatives involved in a high-level foreign military operation, such as the killing of Osama bin Laden, in order to exact revenge. “It’s not hard to imagine a world where people are blithely sharing information online without realizing their third cousin is a Navy SEAL, or an operative of the CIA.”

The Pentagon did not respond to specific questions raised by Yahoo News about the memo, but offered a general statement about its purpose: "We want to ensure all service members are aware of the risks of Direct to Consumer (DTC) genetic testing," said Jessica Maxwell, a Defense Department spokesperson.

For consumers turning to commercial companies for DNA profiles, one of the primary concerns has been about privacy, and the potential for others to exploit personal data, or somehow use it in ways that wasn’t intended, particularly as the size of the private DNA databases has grown. Ancestry boasts some 15 million users, while 23andMe says it has 10 million.

In response to a query from Yahoo News, a spokesperson for Ancestry said the company does not offer military discounts. The spokesperson also said the company has taken a number of measures to protect users’ privacy.

“Protecting our customers’ privacy and being good stewards of their data is Ancestry’s highest priority. Ancestry does not share customer DNA data with insurers, employers, or third-party marketers,” the spokesperson said in an emailed statement. “Ancestry will also not share customer personal information with law enforcement unless compelled to by valid legal process, such as a court order or search warrant.”

In response to queries from Yahoo News, 23andMe defended its privacy protection, and took issue with concerns over security. “All of our customers should be assured we take the utmost efforts to protect their privacy, and that the results we provide are highly accurate,” a spokesman wrote in a statement. “Our FDA-authorized health reports have been tested at over 99% accuracy. All of our testing is done in the U.S., and we do not share information with third parties without separate, explicit consent from our customers.”

Now even the Pentagon appears to recognize this potential threat. “[T]here is increased concern in the scientific community that outside parties are exploiting the use of genetic data for questionable purposes, including mass surveillance and the ability to track individuals without their authorization or awareness,” says the memo.

The Pentagon’s concerns about genetics and surveillance might be viewed by some as ironic, since the Defense Department has its own massive repository of DNA. Following the 1991 Gulf War, the Pentagon began a mandatory DNA collection program for members of the military in order to identify remains of someone killed in conflict.

The Pentagon also collects DNA samples from terrorists and others detained on the battlefield. Most famously, the U.S. military identified Osama bin Laden’s body after he was killed by Navy SEALS in 2011, reportedly using a sample collected from a family member of the Al Qaeda leader. (After bin Laden’s death, the New York Times revealed that the CIA had organized a phony vaccination program in Pakistan in an attempt to collect DNA from the compound where bin Laden was hiding.)

And earlier this year, the Pentagon said it used DNA testing to confirm the death of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State group. The U.S. government had collected al-Baghdadi’s DNA when he was detained by coalition forces in Iraq more than a decade ago.

It may be that the Pentagon’s newfound concern over DNA kits is based on the belief that a hostile country or group could use DNA in the same manner that the U.S. government often uses it: to target enemies. Earlier this year, the chief of naval operations said at a public event that DNA from consumer testing kits might be used in the future for tailorable biological weapons, a concern that most experts regard as far-fetched.

In either case, the Defense Department appears to not want to take that chance.

“Until notified otherwise, DoD military personnel are advised to refrain from the purchase and/or use of DTC [direct to consumer] genetic services,” the memo says.
 
It may be that the Pentagon’s newfound concern over DNA kits is based on the belief that a hostile country or group could use DNA in the same manner that the U.S. government often uses it: to target enemies. Earlier this year, the chief of naval operations said at a public event that DNA from consumer testing kits might be used in the future for tailorable biological weapons, a concern that most experts regard as far-fetched.
Pretty sure creating such a tailor made biological weapon will, at the very least, cost tens of millions more than a bullet, and will only slightly impede the overall organisation.
 
Pretty sure creating such a tailor made biological weapon will, at the very least, cost tens of millions more than a bullet, and will only slightly impede the overall organisation.
Trying to tailor a biological weapon to target the United States Military would, due to the huge variety of ethnic groups that have immigrated to the United States would just end up as a weapon that's more or less lethal to mankind at large. I can't really see a viable approach to the creation of a tailored biological weapon that isn't going to also effect your own troops unless you leave your own ethnic group alone. If you do manage that then chances are the US can just recruit a shit ton of similar groups you would also need to leave out unless you are a mad man and give the biological agent an even more perfect condition to mutant to your own troops.

It's just such a dumb concept that anybody who takes it seriously should be one, shot for war crimes if they actually try it, and two, deserve the likely backfire it would have.
 
i never understood the appeal of dna tests. so what if you have unknown/disliked(??) dna? whatcha gonna do about your horny ancestors
 
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Is a bio weapon that only effects certain DNA even possible?
In theory yes? You would need to target a whole ethnic group however (such as East Asian or European) so its not really something you can control and it would likely mutate pretty quick.

It's also 6000% war crime and doing that is the best way to get everyone to agree its perfectly reasonable to nuke you out of existence.
 
This just seems like solid advice for everyone, really.

One of the most solid axioms about law is that it never keeps pace with technology, and widespread consumer DNA testing is one area where it has been massively outstripped by the great drivers of technology and capitalism.

Consumer DNA testing was until comparatively very recently restricted to pretty much one application: paternity testing. It was one off single use application and the companies providing it had no interest in retaining the data and didn't bother to use the information gathered for purposes other than "go on Maury and dance"

Enter Ancestry-type testing, and the magic of intellectual property law. Now, there are backstops in national and international law that prevent the human genome per se being IP protected by corporate entities. (See Harvard and the oncomouse litigation for background on this.)

However, it is definitely possible to assign IP rights in your specific DNA profile to cowboys like Ancestry. And most people effectively have, by filling out the agreement and posting the sample.

(I say most because due to the sensitivity of DNA data and how the GDPR operates in the EU, it's pretty sure that EU citizens could successfully exercise their right to data deletion against Ancestry, although they might well need to sue to do so. That data is so fucking valuable)

Think about giant user-submitted DNA databases as like Japanese complete gacha games. (Which are conveniently illegal). The value of the shit you already have is massively increased by each tranche of more shit you collect. The more DNA Ancestry gets, the better it can link together the DNA it already has, and the more connections it can make between users, the more effective a service it has to sell. Common case: adult siblings take Ancestry kits for a bit of fun to determine just how "Italian" they are or if grandma was always BSing about her family being 100% Sicilian. They find out when the results come back that dad er, can't actually be their dad. (This shit is getting terrifyingly common, and Ancestry are very clear that they don't offer either pretesting or post testing counselling services. You can go find that shit on your own once the results are opened over the Thanksgiving turkey and it turns out Jessica has some other guy for a dad). Now, the more DNA Ancestry has, the more connections it can make to the data it already has, and it can start offering services like... finding out who your real dad is. For only X dollars, get his name and the contact details of him and his family RIGHT NOW to your inbox!!

This is already happening to people (see endless social media stories of "it told me someone I never heard of in Colorado is a first cousin!!") and it's not only revealing incidents of concealed paternity - which I appreciate is a big deal and a big campaign in mens rights circles and also a completely shit thing to do to a guy, no excuses - but it's revealing the existence of closed adoptions, and revealing the identity of closed adoptees.

Adoption is a ethically messy area, but I would say that if you're under 40 now and your adoption was closed, certainly in the UK it was closed for a good bloody reason. Most closed adoptions are contentious, sometimes highly so. There are often real risks to the safety of the new adoptive family if the birth family are able to find the child. Even if you are past the stage of there being little kids who can be snatched from school involved, there are adult children of stable adoptive placements who it would not be a good fucking life experience for their birth parents to find their new identity and be able to contact them.

There is an excellent potential for liferuin from an Ancestry kit, and you probably shouldn't be able to buy yourself that amount of possible trouble for 99 quid without having it explained in foot high letters why this might be a Very Bad Idea not just for you, but for those you are related to, and that the data you are providing will belong to someone else. It has been clear - even as late as the Facebook/Cambridge Analytica shit - that your average normie consumer has a very poor grasp of how IP rights over personal data freely submitted work and what the companies you submit data to are allowed to do with it. And Ancestry isn't using it for very annoying but low harm shit like targeted advertising.

I know the general A&H view tends towards "fuck regulation and also fuck consumers", but there is a short window of time in which consumer rights to have their data deleted off Ancestry type databases can be introduced and actually be effective, before the cumulative weight of the data disclosed turns into a genie you really can't put back into the bottle.

It's the social media network from hell, and people either need to be collectively put wise to that, or given some power to correct their fuckups urgently.
 
One of the most solid axioms about law is that it never keeps pace with technology, and widespread consumer DNA testing is one area where it has been massively outstripped by the great drivers of technology and capitalism.

Consumer DNA testing was until comparatively very recently restricted to pretty much one application: paternity testing. It was one off single use application and the companies providing it had no interest in retaining the data and didn't bother to use the information gathered for purposes other than "go on Maury and dance"

Enter Ancestry-type testing, and the magic of intellectual property law. Now, there are backstops in national and international law that prevent the human genome per se being IP protected by corporate entities. (See Harvard and the oncomouse litigation for background on this.)

However, it is definitely possible to assign IP rights in your specific DNA profile to cowboys like Ancestry. And most people effectively have, by filling out the agreement and posting the sample.

(I say most because due to the sensitivity of DNA data and how the GDPR operates in the EU, it's pretty sure that EU citizens could successfully exercise their right to data deletion against Ancestry, although they might well need to sue to do so. That data is so fucking valuable)

Think about giant user-submitted DNA databases as like Japanese complete gacha games. (Which are conveniently illegal). The value of the shit you already have is massively increased by each tranche of more shit you collect. The more DNA Ancestry gets, the better it can link together the DNA it already has, and the more connections it can make between users, the more effective a service it has to sell. Common case: adult siblings take Ancestry kits for a bit of fun to determine just how "Italian" they are or if grandma was always BSing about her family being 100% Sicilian. They find out when the results come back that dad er, can't actually be their dad. (This shit is getting terrifyingly common, and Ancestry are very clear that they don't offer either pretesting or post testing counselling services. You can go find that shit on your own once the results are opened over the Thanksgiving turkey and it turns out Jessica has some other guy for a dad). Now, the more DNA Ancestry has, the more connections it can make to the data it already has, and it can start offering services like... finding out who your real dad is. For only X dollars, get his name and the contact details of him and his family RIGHT NOW to your inbox!!

This is already happening to people (see endless social media stories of "it told me someone I never heard of in Colorado is a first cousin!!") and it's not only revealing incidents of concealed paternity - which I appreciate is a big deal and a big campaign in mens rights circles and also a completely shit thing to do to a guy, no excuses - but it's revealing the existence of closed adoptions, and revealing the identity of closed adoptees.

Adoption is a ethically messy area, but I would say that if you're under 40 now and your adoption was closed, certainly in the UK it was closed for a good bloody reason. Most closed adoptions are contentious, sometimes highly so. There are often real risks to the safety of the new adoptive family if the birth family are able to find the child. Even if you are past the stage of there being little kids who can be snatched from school involved, there are adult children of stable adoptive placements who it would not be a good fucking life experience for their birth parents to find their new identity and be able to contact them.

There is an excellent potential for liferuin from an Ancestry kit, and you probably shouldn't be able to buy yourself that amount of possible trouble for 99 quid without having it explained in foot high letters why this might be a Very Bad Idea not just for you, but for those you are related to, and that the data you are providing will belong to someone else. It has been clear - even as late as the Facebook/Cambridge Analytica shit - that your average normie consumer has a very poor grasp of how IP rights over personal data freely submitted work and what the companies you submit data to are allowed to do with it. And Ancestry isn't using it for very annoying but low harm shit like targeted advertising.

I know the general A&H view tends towards "fuck regulation and also fuck consumers", but there is a short window of time in which consumer rights to have their data deleted off Ancestry type databases can be introduced and actually be effective, before the cumulative weight of the data disclosed turns into a genie you really can't put back into the bottle.

It's the social media network from hell, and people either need to be collectively put wise to that, or given some power to correct their fuckups urgently.

Fuck It, Let genie out of bottle. Its time to make Blood Important Factor Again.
 
Pretty sure creating such a tailor made biological weapon will, at the very least, cost tens of millions more than a bullet, and will only slightly impede the overall organisation.

That sounds very inefficient but it makes sense when you consider that's the only way to stop certain American Marines.

Stryker parkoured up the wall and took out the sentry with his tactical karambit knife, slicing his throat before the rest of the terrorists could be alerted.
"Halo-actual, this is Sargeant Stryker, I've infiltrated the compound and I got the broadcast tower in sight."
"Abort the mission Stryker, the Jihados Banditos have released a DNA weapon, it's too dangerous"
"A DNA weapon? Given how diverse our Marine Forces are the terrorists would end up killing themselves before they can activate the Bineural Beats"
"No Stryker, the DNA weapon is tailored to one man only... you."
"Damn, shouldn't have taken the test, but I really needed to know if I was black.... well, I guess I'll have to improvise."
 
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Why do they want to clone our soldiers again?
 
That sounds very inefficient but it makes sense when you consider that's the only way to stop certain American Marines.

Stryker parkoured up the wall and took out the sentry with his tactical karambit knife, slicing his throat before the rest of the terrorists could be alerted.
"Halo-actual, this is Sargeant Stryker, I've infiltrated the compound and I got the broadcast tower in sight."
"Abort the mission Stryker, the Jihados Banditos have released a DNA weapon, it's too dangerous"
"A DNA weapon? Given how diverse our Marine Forces are the terrorists would end up killing themselves before they can activate the Bineural Beats"
"No Stryker, the DNA weapon is tailored to one man only... you."
"Damn, shouldn't have taken the test, but I really needed to know if I was black.... well, I guess I'll have to improvise."
I'm not sure it's even possible to tailor a biological hazard to one person even if you had their DNA data in full and could easily replicate it. Would it still kill that guy? more than likely, but it'd target pretty much anybody that is in his ethic group as well. I know that all humans are at least 99.4%~ identical and that hazards can mutate to different species (Swine flu and AIDS for example), So I still think it's a terrible idea that's just asking for trouble.

Quite honestly, I'm in awe that anybody that had passed school even with only middle classes (nearest English translation? it's your 5th-9th year at around 10-16 years old) would even consider it.
 
I'm not sure it's even possible to tailor a biological hazard to one person even if you had their DNA data in full and could easily replicate it. Would it still kill that guy? more than likely, but it'd target pretty much anybody that is in his ethic group as well. I know that all humans are at least 99.4%~ identical and that hazards can mutate to different species (Swine flu and AIDS for example), So I still think it's a terrible idea that's just asking for trouble.

Quite honestly, I'm in awe that anybody that had passed school even with only middle classes (nearest English translation? it's your 5th-9th year at around 10-16 years old) would even consider it.

A viral bioweapon that does exactly that - tailored to one individual's DNA - is a plot point in Cixin Liu's Three Body trilogy. Which is kind of where I suspect the original article picked the idea up from, consciously or not.
 
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