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Is Nu Metal still as gay as it was back then?

  • Yes

    Votos: 5 9.1%
  • No, Today's music is worse

    Votos: 13 23.6%
  • It's actually underrated

    Votos: 23 41.8%
  • It's a mixed bag

    Votos: 10 18.2%
  • It's even worse

    Votos: 4 7.3%

  • Total de votantes
    55
Ah yes, Motorhead, Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath, the "normal metal" bands that weren't mainstream garbage "goyslop" omnipresent in pop culture.
Many assert that Nu-Metal was simply the natural progression of Metal because metal was basically dead.
That is an obvious lie; Metal was as popular as ever, and the real reason Nu-Metal started to take off was the massive media promotion of it.
MTV is simply a good window into that propaganda push for Nu-Metal.

Do you have any other valid critique of the entire nu metal genre besides "it was mainstream so it was bad" that also cannot be applied to metal genres that came before it?
Rap is low IQ nigger music.
Metal is White people music.
Nu-Metal is the niggerfication of another White artform.

Producers didn't like the Metal ecosystem of Bands playing clubs and concerts and growing naturally, so they pushed Nu-Metal to replace Metal in the mainstream with a Nigger touch to it.
In Nu-Metal talent is less relevant than production and presentation. It's the continuation of all the artificial GlamMetal.
Within Nu-Metal what really matters is the producer.

Metal was mainstream because White people wanted to hear it.
Nu-Metal was mainstream so people would stop listening to Metal and it made a bunch of White kids think it's cool to dress, talk and act like niggers.
 
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Time to consider what kind of songs normal Metal was producing during the rise of nu-metal.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oFCs8FETRYo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pv1kirNU8n4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bePCRKGUwAY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T8bvi1gewB8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nN0jzBhpUns
MTV featuring nu-metal over normal metal is why nu-metal became a thing at all.
Those Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden songs come from the early grunge era, the Motorhead one was grunge era too. The rest were early nu-metal era, though. This is closer to when nu-metal was catching on more.

1997
2001

Many assert that Nu-Metal was simply the natural progression of Metal because metal was basically dead.
That is an obvious lie; Metal was as popular as ever, and the real reason Nu-Metal started to take off was the massive media promotion of it.
That's true. I think, outside of power metal stuff, metal had just gotten too extreme for more mainstream exposure, and power metal was probably considered too "geeky". The 90s was the peak of death metal and grindcore, and when doom, sludge and stoner began to really take off. You'd get maybe a couple of those videos on old Headbangers Ball in between an endless stream of butt rock, and you'd maybe catch a couple of those bands on Beavis and Butt-Head. That's only because Mike Judge could do what he wanted. MTV didn't want to touch GWAR, and bands like Crowbar probably even less.
 
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Those Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden songs come from the early grunge era, the Motorhead one was grunge era too. The rest were early nu-metal era, though. This is closer to when nu-metal was catching on more.

1997
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eNOcDBBlMGI2001
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T6HIifwp4MM

That's true. I think, outside of power metal stuff, metal had just gotten too extreme for more mainstream exposure, and power metal was probably considered too "geeky". The 90s was the peak of death metal and grindcore, and when doom, sludge and stoner began to really take off. You'd get maybe a couple of those videos on old Headbangers Ball in between an endless stream of butt rock, and you'd maybe catch a couple of those bands on Beavis and Butt-Head. That's only because Mike Judge could do what he wanted. MTV didn't want to touch GWAR, and bands like Crowbar probably even less.
I see Pantera after their independent releases as the beginning of nu-metal. Cowboys from Hell 1990 is already pretty much nu-metal.
I also don't see the distinction between nu-metal and rap-rock as concrete.
But I guess you are right, Korn is seen as the real beginning of nu-metal in 1994.

Regarding power metal, it's so counter to the propaganda that it has always been hated by Hollywood.
The core message is to be powerful, just, and righteous, with lots of Euro-centric symbols and stories.
It's classic European heroism, contrasting sharply with what they wanted to promote at that time: nigger thug culture.

Glam was their first attempt to take control of metal.

The production companies promoted grunge and alt-rock endlessly, attempting to decimate the merit-based metal ecosystem.

They never managed to kill it; they just ended up separating themselves from it.

Production companies don't want bands that are good at writing songs and playing music; they want people who do what they are told. (That is why they banned death metal, a bunch of guys who take their music seriously and don't follow orders.) The easiest way to achieve that is to take average or bad musicians and turn them into stars through marketing and studio musicians. There is nothing like Yngwie Malmsteen in nu-metal by design.

I have shifted my list into the future, and my point still stands strong: nu-metal being the organic evolution of metal, because metal was dying, is a lie.

Production companies made radio stop playing metal (metal albums were still selling in the top 10), replacing it with nu aka nigger-metal instead.

This absolute banger came out in 2010 when nu-metal was beginning to crumble.








Considering how overproduced nu-metal is and how much theater is around the songs.
(All those nu-metal bands came ready with an expensive well produced music video.)
It's obvious most are created by production companies, because a new band can never afford all that gloss.
 
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I see Pantera after their independent releases as the beginning of nu-metal. Cowboys from Hell 1990 is already pretty much nu-metal.
I also don't see the distinction between nu-metal and rap-rock as concrete.
But I guess you are right, Korn is seen as the real beginning of nu-metal in 1994.
That's actually a fair point about Pantera, their influence on nu-metal absolutely cannot be denied. I think they skated by being called nu-metal on the basis of having solos, which, for the most part, are missing in nu-metal. They also have less of the rap influence, and are more just pseudo-tough guy shit. Pantera tend to be put more in the weird "groove metal" sub-genre, I think. I consider the jumpoff for nu-metal to be, like you said, Korn and Rage Against the Machine. Faith No More is another one that had significant influence on the genre, even though they also passed by it. Not to mention the rock/metal and rap crossovers like Walk This Way and, of course, Anthrax and Public Enemy.
 
nu metal is flawed but at the same time I like that its honest and lacks any pretension and can appeal to emo dorks or MMA dudebros who are polar opposites

unapologetically honest and edgy stuff scares off leftoids, hipsters, or trannies who get off on moral and social posturing and seeming like their "tastes" in consooming product are superior

all the metal troons i have met like the "correct" bands to socially posture themelves as superior while all the cool metal guys are more open to nu metal

static x > kreator
 
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nu metal is flawed but at the same time I like that its honest and lacks any pretension and can appeal to emo dorks or MMA dudebros who are polar opposites

unapologetically honest and edgy stuff scares off leftoids, hipsters, or trannies who get off on moral and social posturing and seeming like their "tastes" in consooming product are superior

all the metal troons i have met like the "correct" bands to socially posture themelves as superior while all the cool metal guys are more open to nu metal

static x > kreator
Trannies love nu metal though.
 
Nü-Metal was an raw but yet versatile genre and most normalfags don't even realize that.
They just think Rap-Rock = Nü-Metal.

The more underground bands within the genre were more innovative and creative and they never got signed.

Instead, it has to be the more rap-influenced or Hard-Rock influenced Nü-Metal bands that got signed just cause they were pushing this narrative that Nü-Metal was just Rap-Metal 2.0 when it wasn't really that.

What's worse was that they dropped the genre entirely after 9/11 because it was "insensitive," leaving so many bands from that era to be left forgotten.
Mainstream industry niggers killed the genre before it even got the time to shine.

Trannies love nu metal though.
I think it's because of the revival of it going on.

They just make shitty noise-rock filled with gayisms and label it as "Nü-Metal".
 
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