Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

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ConsentAccidentVictimNo98 dijo:
Oh you have no idea how bad things are.
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I never got to learn the history of IMAX in my film classes likely because I went down the post-production route, so this was very informative (it's also been 12 years since I graduated, so I guess the financial issues were starting around then). Would this IMAX obsession also explain how fucked sound design has become the last decade-and-a-half? It's like no one in the industry appreciates Foley artists and the art of sound design anymore and not just because of the phone zombies zoning out in front of their TVs/tablets.
 
is this true?
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Commander X dijo:
Nolan on the set at the time: "Stop filming! Stop filming! We can't...we can't...vibrant colors! No vibrant colors! No vibrant colors in my FILM! :vomits and then starts weeping:"
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Sickly anorexic troon Ellen Page doing combat scenes against men five times her size is fine but a rainbow is just too goofy and unbelievable.
 
Commander X dijo:
Nolan on the set at the time: "Stop filming! Stop filming! We can't...we can't...vibrant colors! No vibrant colors! No vibrant colors in my FILM! :vomits and then starts weeping:"
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Imagine if Terry Gilliam had been directing this, it would have been the greatest moment in the history of kinoma.
 
Commander X dijo:
Nolan on the set at the time: "Stop filming! Stop filming! We can't...we can't...vibrant colors! No vibrant colors! No vibrant colors in my FILM! :vomits and then starts weeping:"
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"I'll not have this naturally-occurring homo symbol in my film. We'll have to film the public tranny stoning some other day.'
 
Kari Kamiya dijo:
(it's also been 12 years since I graduated, so I guess the financial issues were starting around then).
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Oh no, IMAX's financials have been doing great. Sales can also be done to generate more capital, but the IMAX corporation has making a lot because of their shift to digital. This was part of the reason why they wanted to get into movies, which both The Dark Knight and Avatar presented their big break - mainly Avatar because of James Cameron's distastes of film grain and love of digital, which helped vindicate the Xenon projectors [remember, back in 2009 digital projection was still new and so 2k was great by the standards of the time].

It's just that most cinemas didn't get Dual Laser GT Projectors. There are numerous reasons for this, they are expensive first of all, and this means there is a big barrier to entry. When they were new, this was acceptable because there were no other forms of IMAX laser projection, and so that's why there are 1.90:1 locations with Dual Laser projectors. Most laser installations were before the current post Odyssey wave of films showing in 1.43:1 and by that time Dual Laser GT was no longer being produced because of the supplier [Christie] stop making the parts and models as laser technology was advancing, I'll explain one of the flaws evident with DL GT next. This year there are about 5/6 films using a 1.43:1 aspect ratio [not all of them are seat packers]. Second, there's also the issue of there not always being the projector space.

There are also some other flaws with the older Dual Laser GT projectors. The most notable being that they got hot, fast, and so instead of 48fps with 3d showings, you get 24fps. Which the newer models don't have an issue with. Oh, and the 3d glasses with expensive because they used [if memory serves me correctly] active tracking.

There are actually 70mm film projectors being used to play documentaries on the regular, and I kid you not, in India. It also shows them on 70mm 3d which is the only place that does it [Plenty of others are capable, it just means running 2 reels] That is right saars, let us all go to Gujarat City Science Museum!

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[India still got cucked out of The Odyssey release. IMAX corp preferred to install a projector in Brussels and southern france, than to give one to India. There are reasons for this if you understand India's movie market, it being not a great financial idea to send a reel to India when their tickets are really cheap, so you don't make the money back from the showing, as well as the prices being the same with a standard cinema screen because of India's regulations]

It was Regal/Cineworld that was having the financial issues, with the parent company Cineworld going on a buying spree and going into liquidation during Covid.
Kari Kamiya dijo:
Would this IMAX obsession also explain how fucked sound design has become the last decade-and-a-half?
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Not quite, yes with Nolan no with others. Nolan has his sound design specifically designed for the older 5:1 format. He has been known to go to select IMAX theatres to calibrate the sound personally. Which yeah, GT auditoriums do help a lot when it comes to how a movie is heard. The problem though is that most sound would not be designed for an IMAX GT screen, this again is mainly a Nolan explanation.

Let us briefly look at some IMAX GT screens. This is the BFI IMAX in London, great cinema if you're short. Not so if you're tall as the leg room is atrocious.

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With this being a rough design for it

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IMAX lincoln square

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For funnies, I'll throw in the biggest GT IMAX [note, there is a bigger LIEMAX in Germany because they are owned by a major movie family wanting their own Ozymandias moment]

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It should be clear that IMAX auditoriums designed for 1.43:1 projection have a very specific layout, and yeah when a movie is designed for this it will only be good in such an auditorium, and explains why Nolan's sound design is fucked. It works in these locations, less so elsewhere.

Now lets compare this to your average, run of the mill IMAX convert, which was just an older multiplex [pretty sure, a lot of the earlier ones were and the design philosophy with multiplexes remains the same, which most digital LIEMAXes are]

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And that's primarily because most movies have multiple different tracks going with it (Eg, Star Wars had multiple versions of the sound design shipped dependent on the theatre, and what it was capable of) so for instance, Dual Part 2 had a 5:1 backing track with the film projectors. Digital had 12 channels if it was a laser location. This is because IMAX film hardware is older, and has not been modified [as of yet] to be capable of running in tandem with a 12 channel layout, as they were not designed for it. The reason why is because the projector itself has to be constantly lined up with the audio track, which is sent via an optical disk [yeah, they use dvds for audio] which the projector calibrates by scanning the film print.

Dolby has its own, and this basically means there needs to be multiple different sound designs per movie because you've got multiple different formats to appease

Which, if you look at an actual IMAX auditorium, not the smaller 1.90:1 screens, then it becomes clear as to why.
 

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BrainSand63 dijo:
She has a master’s degree, but is still incredibly ignorant and uneducated about her field of study.

What a fucking retard.
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BubbaRobot887 dijo:
A masters degree in DEI, she clearly didn't have to work for it.
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She's actually saying the things she learned in college. "today we're gonna discuss a story written centuries ago and ask why the writer didn't have the same sensibilities of my time because we're unable to project ourselves into the minds of people who lived before us, but we can forced them into our time and judge them for it! "
 
WhiskeyJack dijo:
Wakanda of Troy has spoken, and she wants to lecture Homer and then give him the side-eye.

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Reminder, she supposedly has a Master of Fine Arts degree from Yale. yet she not only has never read or heard of The Odyssey, but also doesn't know Homer was blind.

Her whining is especially retarded as there are many prominent female roles in The Odyssey that play important parts in the story. Penelope, Athena, Circe, Calypso, Eurycleia, and so on.

In fact, there's so much female representation in the Iliad and the Odyssey that scholars have argued Homer might have been a woman, going back at least a century. Some even think that Nausicaa is a self-insert character. Robert Graves (I, Claudius) worked that into one of his novels on Homer back in the 50's.

Anyway, I've gone from not knowing this chick exists to actively disliking her. Very much the Kenyan Rachel Zegler.

Edit: Dammit, beat me to it
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Casting this vantablack Negress as Helen was an amazing choice, and it's obviously going to keep paying off. Can't believe the trailer only got 500K dislikes so far, it should have been over a million before now.

KEEP HITTING THOSE FUCKING HOME RUNS, NOLAN.
 
Commander X dijo:
Casting this vantablack Negress as Helen was an amazing choice, and it's obviously going to keep paying off. Can't believe the trailer only got 500K dislikes so far, it should have been over a million before now.

KEEP HITTING THOSE FUCKING HOME RUNS, NOLAN.
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I bet she sweeps all of the awards next year and I am not kidding, they are going to give everyone involved with this movie all the awards just to try and own the chuds.
 
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