Culture New Data Shows Vast Majority of Americans Support Trans Rights - The research suggests that right-wing attacks on trans protections are not aligned with the country’s values.


As bills aiming to push transgender people out of public life pass through state legislatures nationwide, a new survey shows that most Americans — regardless of party, race or gender — believe that trans people deserve equal protection.

In a new survey of over 1,000 respondents, 85% of Americans believe that “transgender people should have the same rights and protection as everyone else.” The sentiment was agreed upon by 92% of Democrats, 76% of Republicans and 87% of independents. The survey was conducted by research firm SSRS and funded by the Human Rights Campaign Foundation.

The survey also found that over four in 10 Americans now know a trans person, a rise from just one in three in previous surveys, while 27% of Americans say that they regularly have conversations with trans people. Previous research has shown that knowing a trans person corresponds with increased support for trans issues.

A large majority of Americans agreed that trans people should be able to access the health care they need (89%), be protected from employment discrimination (79%), and protected from discrimination and harassment in schools (83%). Notably, a majority of Republicans believed that trans people should be protected from discrimination in both arenas, as well.

With each question, support for protections for trans people was highest among people who spoke with trans people regularly, higher among those who knew a trans person, and lowest among those who did not know a trans person

HRC underscored that these results point out that not only is support for trans equality broad nationwide, but that personal connection matters when it comes to protecting trans people’s rights.

“Transgender people are not strangers. They are our neighbors, coworkers, family members, and friends. And this new data shows that as people get to know them, they are more likely to stand by them as allies,” Kelley Robinson, President of the Human Rights Campaign, said in a press release accompanying the data.

Human Rights Campaign released the data to coincide with Trans Day of Visibility, the annual celebration of trans people’s existence. By the time that this year’s observance has rolled around, 747 anti-trans bills have been proposed in 42 states, per the Trans Legislation Tracker. Of those, 23 have passed and 47 have failed, with the remaining 677 still under consideration.

“American people are far more united than extremists will admit. We believe in fairness. We believe in dignity. And we believe in treating people equally under the law,” Robinson continued. “When one group is singled out and told they don’t belong, it weakens the foundation of freedom for everyone. That’s why defending trans rights is part of defending democracy itself. The more we show up for each other, the stronger our communities and our democracy become.”

The survey was conducted from February 20 through February 23 with 1,032 respondents over the internet and via telephone, with responses in English and Spanish. You can read the full results of the survey here.

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This has always been the motte and Bailey argument with trans rights

These are the questions:
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Of course the majority of people think things like Trans kids deserve protection from harassment in schools in a generalized sense.

These surveys start falling apart when you start asking specific questions (which this one does not):
-Do you think kids should be able to change their name and gender at school without their parents knowledge?
-Do you think kids can use the bathroom and locker rooms of the opposite sex ?
-Do you think transgender girls should play on female sports teams ?

Those will all be majority NO

I suspect that gays are back in charge at HRC instead of trannies because this framing is more in line with early 2000s gay rights than late 2010s tranny activism. I think its a bit naive because the second they gain a little footing again the trannies will come back screaming.
What was late 2010s tranny activism like?
 
Everyone relax. It's the same sleight of hand feminists use. They conflate rights with privileges.

Example: As a woman, I should have the right to walk safely at night.

OK, rights come with responsibilities, so don't wear heels, take the earbuds out, and get your face out of your phone. Most importantly don't walk through the hood at night, get an uber.

It's the same here: As a trans person, I want the right to be treated as a member of the opposite gender.

OK, rights come with responsibilities. Some people find gender transition deeply disturbing and you have a responsibility not to impose yourself on them. They have a right not to associate with you. This might mean that you can only be treated this way in narrow circles of association such as a gay bar.

Without accepting those responsibilities, what you're asking for are privileges. Privileges have to be earned and the question is what have you done to earn them? What can you do? Simply existing should not earn you a privilege. We all exist.

The parralell between feminism and gender shit runs deep. You are discriminated against and place yourself in unsafe situations, not because of who you are but because of how you behave.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but number 1: I don't believe a goddamn word these people are saying about this "survey". Especially from a publication named "them.us". And number 2: I fully support TTD in all shapes and forms. These degenerate loons deserve no rights or privileges whatsoever.


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Yeah honestly.
I don't want to see the everyday troon met with violence but I don't think work places should have to tolerate middle aged hons coming in dressed like a secretary in a cheap wig. I generally think this is a very harmful ideology that preys on vulnerable people and should be eradicated as much as possible from public life.
 
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What was late 2010s tranny activism like?

The 90s/2000s gay rights movement is what progressives would now call respectability politics. They were wheeling out 90 year old lesbians and going isnt it sad they can't get married? There was also a concerted effort to have the leaders or the people in media representing gay people to appear as normal as possible.

Late 2010s/early 2020s is peak woke. You get the exact opposite. The overall vibe is entitlement and the desire is not assimilation or equal rights its special rights. Additionally they want to act and look as transgressive as possible, which is how we ended up with literal goblins with piss bottles as a form of protest.

 
-Do you think transgender girls should play on female sports teams ?

Those will all be majority NO
This question (and other questions that say "trans women", "trans men" etc) always produces bad results because a significant number of people think a "transgender girl" is a pooner. There isn't a "neutral" way to phrase the question because troonacy is so batshit that trying to "objectively" explain it is impossible.
Do you think a boy who wishes to have been born a girl should play on a girls' team?
Obviously no.

To make it democratically "neutral", you have to avoid "boy" and "he" (as well as "she"). "Biologically male" is too soyentific for a poll, and troons will still ree. Saying the trooned children are "born boys" (or "biologically male", or whatever) implies sex is changeable (and there are people who, having never thought about it, will believe it is). Describing a scenario
Peter and Olivia had a baby named Robert. At seven years old, Robert asked to be able to wear dresses and to be called Sabrina...
implies it's an exceptional case and you're being asked to make an one-off decision about that one child.

Really, all troon-related opinions have a Heisenberg's Uncertainty Troon problem in that uninformed people have unexamined opinions in the back of their heads that you can observe in action but can't ask about, because once you corner one with a questionnaire, they become informed and their opinions change.
 
The 90s/2000s gay rights movement is what progressives would now call respectability politics. They were wheeling out 90 year old lesbians and going isnt it sad they can't get married? There was also a concerted effort to have the leaders or the people in media representing gay people to appear as normal as possible.

Late 2010s/early 2020s is peak woke. You get the exact opposite. The overall vibe is entitlement and the desire is not assimilation or equal rights its special rights. Additionally they want to act and look as transgressive as possible, which is how we ended up with literal goblins with piss bottles as a form of protest.

I remember 2017 era tumblr tranny-ism but i remember that it was already over by 2021? Maybe my memory is foggy.
 
Press X to doubt.

We all know that believing everyone should be treated well and not discriminated against is considered trans genocide to troons.
If conact with a tranny meant more support, we wouldn't have a gorilion reddit pots about how it's broken up families.
The parralell between feminism and gender shit runs deep.
Of course. It's all part of the progressive liberal/globohomo/pedo grift. They infiltrate and corrupt rational movements into vehicles for profit, degeneracy, divisiveness and power. Unfortunaly a good portion of these groups are retarded sheep who make useful idiots in creating staunch conglomerate power structures that hunger for more until any original and logical sentiment is gone.

It's why all the gay rights groups shifted to troons. They no longer had an axe to wield and a cause to finance their lifestyles, so instead of sitting on the backburner after gay marriage and holding the line, they found a new (and more dangerous) plight to grift off of, leaving all the normal gays to be othered and fuck public perception all to hell. Fortunately they got too comfortable being openly degenerate and people are waking up to troons, but the damage to those they attached to has already been done.
 
As bills aiming to push transgender people out of public life pass through state legislatures nationwide, a new survey shows that most Americans — regardless of party, race or gender — believe that trans people deserve equal protection.
Yeah no shit, I think that troons should have a right to free speech and a fair trial and protections against unreasonable search and seizure and the same rights as everyone else

The problem is pretty fucking obviously that they don't just want that, they want the right to go into the Planet Fitness women's dressing room and get euphoric boners and then have someone else pay for their stinkditch when that gets boring

Even in here I've never seen anyone say to completely disenfranchise troons, just stuff like how "Lia" Thomas has no constitutional right to humiliate biological women in their own spaces because they changed their name and grew out their hair, which is correct
The quote from @(‿ˠ‿) ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ) best summarizes what most people I know feel about the whole "Trans Rights" issue: Everyone deserves the same basic rights and dignity regardless of who or what they are. Once they start behaving in unacceptable ways (ogling in rest/locker rooms, pushing people out of their gender-specific spaces, or being creepy/pervy towards children), all bets are off because most people find those behaviors universally appalling if not outright abhorrent.

One thing I also don't see mentioned is that people might be agreeing because there's social pressure to agree with the status quo regardless of if they claim to say the study is anonymous or not.
There is all sorts of social pressure to publicly agree with local norms. I've seen people in left-leaning locals flood social media with posts supporting liberal talking points while having moderate, or even conservative, opinons on those same topics they can't express publicly because of the combination of social pressure and cancel culture.

On a related tangent, someone was on the radio today speaking against a possible SCOTUS ruling against birthright citizenship because the change would be "too complicate" and the status quo is far simpler. "Why can't we leave well enough alone," may be a nice sentiment, but it also opens the door for changes that aren't for the better and difficult to impossible to revert later on.

To give trannies a more realistic idea of how dire their situation is, even my Boomer TDS riddled relatives have not only brought them up unprompted to speak negatively, but they're also weirdly mad over the men in women's sports thing especially.
This sentiment seems to transcend party politics. Someone I know who's not Trump's greatest fan thinks men shouldn't be allowed to self-identify as women and dominate women's sports.

In @Professor G. Raff’s example, we used to laugh at them in sitcoms. I’m surprised they haven’t started claiming it was blackface.
I remember a 70s sitcom that had a couple of episodes with a cross-dressing performer as a guest star. The show pointed out the dilemmas of such in a humorous way - one such example being the star needing to use the bathroom and freezing at the two doors, not knowing which one to use without causing a commotion. Today, this would probably be labeled transphobic.
 
In a new survey of over 1,000 respondents, 85% of Americans believe that “transgender people should have the same rights and protection as everyone else.” The sentiment was agreed upon by 92% of Democrats, 76% of Republicans and 87% of independents. The survey was conducted by research firm SSRS and funded by the Human Rights Campaign Foundation.
Just FYI the whole "t-they want to strip of us of our rights and put us in camps!" narrative pushed by leftists was always schizophrenic nonsense.
 
I remember a 70s sitcom that had a couple of episodes with a cross-dressing performer as a guest star. The show pointed out the dilemmas of such in a humorous way - one such example being the star needing to use the bathroom and freezing at the two doors, not knowing which one to use without causing a commotion. Today, this would probably be labeled transphobic.

I also remember Little Britain quite gleefully poked fun at transvestism, with a lot of humor coming from normies being unwilling to entertain Eddie "Emily" Howard's idiotic LARP.

There was a bathroom skit, where he tries to sneak into the womans' locker room at the pool, but then angrily huffs and goes into the men's locker room instead. I still can't find that one.
 
For those who don't know, polls such as these usually have about a 3% response rate., 97% non response rate.

What that means is that they probably sent out about 33,000 letters to random houses, and 32,000 of them just put it in the bin. 1000 weirdos decided to do the survey.

Also, of the thousandish people who responded, only 30 were by phone, the rest were online.
 
85% of Americans believe that “transgender people should have the same rights and protection as everyone else.”
Which could of course mean e.g. they have the right to use the bathroom that matches their genitals, just like everyone else.
A large majority of Americans agreed that trans people should be able to access the health care they need (89%)
Again, not adequately defined. Here's a pdf with their data. This is a common theme in their questions, and when you look at the exact wording it's more clear what's happening. "Transgender people should have the same rights and protections as everyone else." "Transgender people should have the same ability as anyone else to get the healthcare they need." The same as anybody else could be interpreted to mean that they shouldn't get special treatment, or even that they shouldn't be recognized as anything other than their actual sex. Basically these questions are designed to only be answered one way, and even if you are militantly opposed to trannies you might still give the answer that they are interpreting as positive towards trannies. Just note that this is a very clearcut case where the wording of the questions makes it impossible to derive any signal at all; it's very unsurprising to get a large majority of people agreeing with these statements.

Probably the only thing here from which any signal can be derived is the answers given to questions of how many people know a tranny. 55% responded to "Over the past year, how often have you had a conversation with someone who is transgender?" with "Never". They ask whether people know trannies, and in every category (family, friends, coworkers, acquaintances), at least 70% say they don't know any; when they combine responses, including "yes, but we're not close" apparently 59% do not know a tranny at all. That to me is interesting, although as others note some online survey of a thousand people (1000 online responses, 30 telephone; I don't even know why they bothered with the telephone part) shouldn't sway anyone too much.

Even noting the thing they were trying to measure is based on pretty meaningless responses, only 17% of respondents said they talk with a tranny frequently (at least once a month), and then this is associated with much stronger positive responses to the statements, especially "strongly agree". I'm guessing that the ones who said they talk to a tranny frequently, and then went on to say they disagree they should have rights, are the ones who have one as a coworker; or possibly a couple with a family member...
 
Yes. Indeed they deserve equal protection; just not additional protections that give them more rights than everyone else.

I 100% support creation of sports leagues that have a transgender league separate from Mens and Women's that allows 4 football players to have 2 people per team and decide who is the greatest freak.
 
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