Never Back Down '24 / Ron DeSantis' Online Influencers / The DeSantoids - Florida Man Violates Federal Regulations to Hire Internet Retards, Nukes Own Career

This guy I never heard of before, John Doyle, went on the Catholic (Novus Ordo conservative-tier) YT show called 'Pints with Aquinas' and had a pretty decent rundown of why RDS failed -


I think he pretty much nails it, mostly what we've said in this thread, and to his credit, he noticed the never-Trump level con media pumping him earlier than I did (I missed the events in early 2021 as a kind of prep for his presidential run) - the gaslighting headlines over his lame canned press conferences we started to see from the Ben Shapiro types.

Also points out that Ron is in a continual cycle of self destruction, such as when reporters asked him about if Trump were to select him as VP, and how that can be more tactfully handled, instead he managed to take an easy lay up question and ruin his reputation further.
 
Also points out that Ron is in a continual cycle of self destruction, such as when reporters asked him about if Trump were to select him as VP, and how that can be more tactfully handled, instead he managed to take an easy lay up question and ruin his reputation further.
For the 'master politician' he sure lacks tack. Not even the VP question, earlier today he got the softball 'Will you campaign with Trump?'. Just say something like 'We haven't had that discussion yet' or some other non committal bullshit.
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Oh, snarky. I bet a thousand West Wing fans explained to their bored girlfriends how that's actually an insult.
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So the cycle continues. The beatings will continue until Trump stops a debate with Biden to call Ron a retarded fag.

Meanwhile, on the cope front:
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Evidence of this:
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Enough political maneuvering. Let's get some insane people on the internet. Recently, footage of migrants at the border physically surging past the Texas National Guard made the rounds. This concerned a hardline RonBot named MattAAW so much he came to the logical conclusion that it wasn't worth being a hold out, and he would be voting for Trump and halting attacks on Republicans to focus on Biden.
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Enter Defiant Baptist. He's been screen capped a few times here, and is exactly every negative stereotype you could think of about a guy who calls himself 'defiant baptist'. Self righteous, preachy, more interested in kicking people out over small disagreements than bringing people in, and convinced the actions of the Missouri Synod keep the Pope up at night. He was also one of Matt's long time Twitter mutuals and brothers in DeSimping. Defiant would respond to his friend making a tough choice based on his conscious by writing an 11 tweet, thousand word thread shaming him, disclosing the contents of their DMs, and calling him a soulless grifter. Thread unroller link. (A). It's too long to post in full so I'll put up the main points.
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'This is not a dogpile on Matt. He completely deserves it and I'm not going to offer any defense of him. Not a dogpile. Please share.'
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An absolutely schizo two paragraphs. From 'I don't care how people vote in November' to 'It doesn't matter because his state is a lock for Trump' to 'I need to stage an intervention and stop him from voting Trump'.
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To really hammer home how much a psycho Defiant is, Matt apparently came to him upset. Defiant refused to consider Matt's concerns, wording it like a change in real world developments leading to rethinking a political stance is the same as a smack addict rationalizing his habit. A spiral not to be validated. Of course he had already written Matt off.
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Matt's tweet would pick up traction. Defiant would be stunned to find MAGA doesn't refuse allies and that there are more of them than DeSimps. Clearly, Matt had become a money hungry sell out.
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When the tweet got all the way to Elon, Defiant cut the cord. Not because of anything Matt did since the tweet, but because Elon saw it.
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'Voting for Trump means you can't attack Loomer, which is the real problem.' IDK. Make of it what you will.
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And it ends up with this. 'We musn't become a cult', says the man who just spent an afternoon publicly shaming a former friend for stepping the slightest out of line. But he's not done yet.
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He would tag radio host Shannon Joy and Blaze Senior Editor Daniel Horowitz in, to make sure as many people as possible see what happens when you try to leave they are up against. And let's round out the Baptist stereotypes with some hysterical whinging about how viral tweets are the Anti-Christ.
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As of posting, Matt has locked his account due to the not pile on.
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Defiant would respond to his friend making a tough choice based on his conscious by writing an 11 tweet, thousand word thread shaming him, disclosing the contents of their DMs, and calling him a soulless grifter.
Bro, who the fuck does that? Just call him a spinless nigger turncoat and move on, like, fuck, dude
 
Man that really makes me miss the days when the Evangelicals were the toady #2 of the GOP after the cynical Neocons. We may have had L after L, but it least we kept our conservatively principled dignity, damn it!
I have to remind myself 90 percent of evangelicals are normal but the ten percent who can't discuss Social Security spending with out checking if the concept of retirement is Biblical make it hard.
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Anyway, Defiant's tweet has caused a small shit show I have saved but am too lazy to type up rn. Instead, let's look at some amazing Pil-Pul from Nordau.
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The claim: Trump promised not to run in '24, so it was a betrayal of Rob's trust.
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The counter claim: Trump declared 7 months before Ron, so that's nonsense. Ron incorrectly assumed Trump's legal issues would give him a chance.
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The Jewish Trick: Actually, that incorrect assumption you attributed to Meatball bore out to be incorrect, so your entire statement is a lie and I will refuse to acknowledge I was talking about past actions with no benefit of hind sight.
 
I have to remind myself 90 percent of evangelicals are normal but the ten percent who can't discuss Social Security spending with out checking if the concept of retirement is Biblical make it hard.
Oh shit, I forgot that part of the Bible where Jesus picks up his phone and starts posting on Twitter. That's my favourite part!
 
Anyway, Defiant's tweet has caused a small shit show I have saved but am too lazy to type up rn
So not all of Fight Club was happy with that shit show, and voiced their displeasure at this insanity. They got exactly the treatment you'd expect.
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Particular ire was directed at @AutonomousAllie, one of the DeSantettes from the Pit Mommy Squad, who called them out for acting like a cult and come to same conclusion about voting Trump for the border. She would get the worst of the struggle session.
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Enter @MoreHumblethanV, Baptist's butt buddy.
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I notice the bold claim that Trump is to the left of Biden for not keeping the Budlight boycott going in perpetuity, despite Biden hosting Mulvaney at the White House. Let's round it out with some final thoughts from the participants.

Matt came to the realization maybe Trump won by not driving off allies.
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Humble declared it a natural result of their treason.
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And Baptist considers the whole thing a job well done.
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To politics! Ron done goofed. After the repeal of Roe v. Wade (Or before Iowa's evengelicals voted, depending on how cynical you'd like to frame it), Florida passed one of the harsher abortion restrictions in the country, which naturally went to the state supreme court. On Tuesday, the FL Supreme Court allowed the six week ban to go into place.
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The same day they allowed measures to make abortion a constitutional right and legalize weed to be on the ballot this November. The more clued in DeSimps realized those two issues are Democratic turn out machines, and Ron's claim of a solid red Florida was going to be put to the test in a Presidential election year,
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This move gained a pretty unanimous 'Good job, asshole' from the rest of the GOP.
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So reignited the age old conservative battle over weather it's better to limit abortion as much as possible or lose an election, get more abortion, but fight the good fight. Fight Club would pick 'We're conservatives and it's the right thing to do'. Remember when Rob's gig was being two steps ahead politically? It won't matter anyway, Trump is worse for turning out libs!
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And after all, Meatball and Max have informed us there's no Democrats in Florida left anyway, so don't worry about it.
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Current plan: If you point out this was stupid and will probably end up with more abortions, you're pro baby murder.
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Errata: Fight Club has laid down it's demands for voting Trump. Policy? Promises?
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Damn, interesting that those 3 are the ones who attacked his insane wife publicly.
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As funny as it is as a campaign tactic, it's even funnier to think Rob will really blow his career up because some guy on twitter who had a picture taken with Trump insulted his wife.

ReOpenChris is seemingly sober again (For now) and got a job as a plant to toss prepared softballs to DeSanctus.
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Bonus edit because I keep forgetting: Please stop sexualizing my tight wet governor
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Not much has changed on the abortion front. Fight Club has fully entrenched themselves in the camp of 'Republicans need to embrace political toxin and lose to defeat Trump be moral.' It's a debate that's been raging for years among the right and will rage until the Sun goes dark. It's all for show from Fight Club. They only find their iron hard principles on the issue when it's politically convenient.

On things that trigger the neocon brain in ways we cannot understand, the phrase 'Iran attacked Israel' has been uttered and we have a new round of deserters. Only the most die hard contrarians can deny the world was more stable under Trump. Loomer Ls, one of the oldest DeStan accounts, has had enough of this shit. Though will she couch it in a thin veneer 'if Ron is VP'. Pit Mommy Squad member Coco would leave with them.
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You know how that goes.
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In other news, the Babylon Bee, after firing the one funny guy, has made the bold move to capture the DeSantiod market by making jabs at Trump while playing lip service to making fun of Rob. In case you were wondering what happened there. Ron bought them off last February with 21k for 'Joke writing'.
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And it's been long enough to see how DeSanctus' run has impacted his popularity. It's not great but not terrible.
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But wait, polls? On DeSantis twitter? And what's that I hear!? Taking a break from fundraising, the man who destroyed the entire industry, Robert Salvador, has returned to grace us with his galaxy brain!
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What the poll didn't consider is independents aren't allowed to vote, a rookie mistake. But he's not done, he's going to be in the ear of the GOP movers and shakers, showing them what a data driven future could look like.
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Under Salvador, the GOP will finally be able to utilize the concept of 'different voters respond to different issues.' They'll even measure it, with a whole two variables! Anything is possible with big data, you just need a visionary to realize it. A Jobs, an Elon, a Salvador. A man of genius insights like 'Jews like Israel, have we considered that?'

Salvador's fucking great man. He's a sitcom character. A weirdo Cuban who dresses like Steve Jobs, has a middle school understanding of math, and constantly throws the words 'data' and 'AI' around while trying to sound like a guru. And he gets invited to the donor retreats. (A). What is this guy like in person

And an as I type breaking situation, Libs of Tik Tok is once again an enemy. This time she posted a school fight that teachers were slow to discipline. The fuck does this need the Governor's attention? Because it's Rob's personal fiefdom of Florida, and any mention of a bad thing in Florida is unpatriotic and possibly Trumpian. The insult seems to be LoTT's info was out dated and follow up punishment happened.
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Who is so fucking insecure they can't let mention of a fight between two kids and shitty public school district slip past, just because it happened in your state? Pushaw would even state they gave LoTT a direct line so they can fact check posts involving Florida.
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I wish these people could see how fucking insane they are for a moment. PowerOwn45 has been openly stating recently if they want to stay politically relevant, they need Trump to lose so big they can swoop in and show everyone how smart they are and to plan for that.
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Loomer Ls, one of the oldest DeStan accounts, has had enough of this shit. Though will she couch it in a thin veneer 'if Ron is VP'.
I'm sorry, is she saying that DeSantis has connections to Hamas? "DeSantis could also use his connections to get any/all American hostages back to America safely."

Am I missing something?
 
Not much has changed on the abortion front. Fight Club has fully entrenched themselves in the camp of 'Republicans need to embrace political toxin and lose to defeat Trump be moral.' It's a debate that's been raging for years among the right and will rage until the Sun goes dark. It's all for show from Fight Club. They only find their iron hard principles on the issue when it's politically convenient.
It's baffling that they can't see the irony of opposing an expansion of the state's power over your medical decisions in 2020 then immediately pushing a similar expansion the state's power 2021 onwards. What happened to ending taxpayer subsidies to Planned Parenthood? Why not focus on combatting the new taxpayer funded abortion tourism being pushed by local governments?
 
Nationalizing abortion would be a disaster for them anyway; a slight majority (low to mid 50s) are in favor of the status quo on abortion nationally, if pro life activists think their standard would be adopted, they have another thing coming. State level abortion is the best they can hope for, and it's amazing that some of them are still pushing this dead end approach after having lost battles in states like Kentucky and Montana (there are technical reasons for this, such as pushing for referendums in low turnout elections, all of which seem to go over the DeSantoids heads).
 
I'm sorry, is she saying that DeSantis has connections to Hamas? "DeSantis could also use his connections to get any/all American hostages back to America safely."

Am I missing something?
I have no clue, man. My only guess is it's ill informed 'He was a JAG who did paper work for a SEAL team' extrapolation. Is something stopping him from using those connections now? I know these guys don't consider the implications of their bullshit, but 'Ron could save Americans from Hamas.. but only if you make him VP' is not the track to go.

What happened to ending taxpayer subsidies to Planned Parenthood? Why not focus on combatting the new taxpayer funded abortion tourism being pushed by local governments?
This has been brought up to them, but you have to understand that's not what they want. They know abortion is a losing issue, and for all their bluster they won't do anything to end the practice. Ignore any claims that this is a hard stand, or principled choice. It's not, it's the easy way. Actually ending it would take generations of work, bit by bit, compromise by compromise and every move will be in danger of being turned against them. That's hard. It requires tough choices. Easier then to just declare your going to run a guy who wants Planned Parenthood air striked in swing states, give up any responsibility once you inevitably lose, and then yell your virtue to the masses while getting to score points on your rivals.


and it's amazing that some of them are still pushing this dead end approach after having lost battles in states like Kentucky and Montana
They're losing in Florida and they're just now trying to spin up PACs. Bout to learn a hard lesson about women voters.
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I look forward to seeing if Ron will go hard on this or leave them with their ass out in the breeze. Who am I kidding. A staffer who flew out to Iowa for him to knock doors is left the only one doing anything besides bitch about Trump by himself. Fantastic job, everyone. 0 of 99 Iowa counties.
 
Well, I must admit I missed the forest for the trees. So focused on finding milk I didn't notice the fact Fight Club has stepped up activities to coincide with Trump's criminal trial, hoping to pile on the bad press. Thankfully others picked up on it. But first, we have a new character, @ManicContrarian.
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He's changed his header and tried to hide his face dox, but hasn't got them all yet.
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I'm including it because what's next is funnier when you picture it coming from this SoCal fuckin mutant.
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Picture this fuckin' idiot wrapping up a long day of being a bad ass on the internet and writing opinion pieces on Compassionate Conservatism, opening up a bottle of wine with the missus, and putting on old Jimmy fuckin' Kimmel monologues about Trump and chortling to each other about Jimmy's wit and insight. Holy shit. Yeah I'm being hard on him because he's a more traditional lolcow. Get your eyes ready.
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Look at this stupid fucking faggot. Jesus Christ this is the most histrionic thing I've read in ages. Over Jimmy Kimmel. An entire paycheck's worth of ten dollar words for nothing of substance. He might as well put on the scared hoe voice. 'Heey, this is kinda weird talking about Jimmy. I don't like it and I think Catlyn is uncomfortable. Can we talk about something else?' What a fucking faggot. Indeed, I believe what I've said 100% true and accurate!

On to happenings. Non Anons have also noticed something has been off with the Babylon Bee lately. Today's shitshow was caused by a former candidate for California Rep,
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Very good points Mr. Gigilo. Mr. Dillon?
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We'll get to their claims of 'we're just equal opportunity joksters.' in a second.
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I don't know where he's get the 20m figure. I will however, point out that the 21k figure was a leak from Loomer that was confirmed by Dillon, not an official disclosure. He could have screwed up thousand and million, or could be payments continued. But are the DeSantis bots back in force? Let's check the comments.
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Indeed they are! Or rather, they never left.
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This is kid's movie levels of 'No, I'm not planning on betraying you.' Ron endorsed Trump, what could he possibly gain by attacking him? I dunno, let's ask the DeSantiods from a fucking week ago. They're determined to sink Trump so Ron can sneak in at the convention or at least set him up for 2028, hell his third point is just 'Actually it's Trump who sucks and isn't a real conservative.'
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The Battle over The Bee would continue. Kyle Mann would step in.
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Is that correct, Kyle? Let me go ahead and pull this screen shot up again.
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For now let's get Seth's final words.
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Amazing he's already picked up the 'Acting dismissive when cornered' tone. But fine. The Bee is punk rock. They'll go after anyone, man. They just took money from and copied the mannerisms and talking points of the DeSantis campaign. Let's check in on what they have to say about Trump and DeSantis in the last 24 hours.
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The fight would spill over into the DeSantiods themselves as other voices would note that well.. This whole thread. MaxNordau would get a in public tiff explaining that he's been obsessivly tweeting about the Orange Man 8 hours a day for 2 years for free and because he actually wants to help Trump.

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I can answer Max. Your entire team has been pulling this 'IDK guys I'm worried about this Charismatic RFK Jr fella taking republican votes' or 'I'm too conservative to vote for him, buut' sthick for months. Not to ignore your plan for 2028 hinges on a Biden win.
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Things are pickin' up as the Convention approaches. Feels like the final arc of season two is coming.

I screwed up the upload order on that last set of images but it looks like a dick on my monitor lol
 
Time for a thread revival as there was some milking today. It looks like the Max Nordau Twitter account got suspended today. For what nobody knows. Some are speculating he may have gotten caught up in a bot purge. Another conservative douchebag claimed it was due to a post he made defending Israel.
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Another account however is claiming he made an AI generated video of Kristi Noem killing her dog.
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Naturally Desantis's influencer crowd is flipping out over it.
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Naturally Desantis's influencer crowd is flipping out over it.
Well fuck, I came here to post that to find I had an unposted post that is no longer relevant. Dammit. Ah what ever this bit is still funny.

RETARD FIIGHT
@ReopenChris, of the crowd funded coat, falling off the wagon three or four times since his boss sent him from Miami to Iowa during an arctic front, being a convicted broad slapper, and constantly being fired, decided to start shit with the Evangelical radio host and RDS ally Steve Deace. The subject? Deace stands accused of not hating Trump more than Satan and being blind to the conservative case for RFK Jr. Despite warnings from his coworkers, Chris accepted a debate on Steve's show. Behold as an water brained alcoholic cargo cults Fight Club talkings points out with out being able to connect them to a coherant point.

at 52 minutes.

It dissolves into a screaming match between a clearly mentally unhinged addict and a BlazeTV host. Steve gives the best of it, but Chris drags him down to his level and uses his experience yelling like a woman. Nelson is defiantly one of those alcoholics who finds Jesus but only AA Jesus. Steve end at the directly states what everyone who has met Chris has realized, he isn't well and needs help. Deace with the final laugh using Chris as a reason for why you need an emergency supply kit during an ad read.


On to the Nordau thing. @LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2 covered most of it. But he wasn't the only one caught up. @Snorman1776 and @gaypatriot also got hit. As well some Trump influencers. As this came the night of Elon's bot purge, speculation for the reason was wild. But not without evidence. Maybe. I can vouch for that tweet but I have no idea what it means. I'm pretty sure they have a bot that retweets followers using certain keywords tho.
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And indeed the RDS circle flipped shit. But Cringe undersells it as 'infulencers'. Redfern, Griffen, and Pusha would all get involved. That's the big 3 of Ron's Public Relations staff.
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The 'MAGA adds us to lists to mass report' has been a thing for months. It's been in this thread a few times. Anyway, they all got reinstated. I do enjoy seeing Twitter come together to shit on him though. Anyway, Max is back as his bot running again, reposting two days worth of every tweet of Isreali propaganda in mere hours. And then this.
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Somehow, I don't believe that.
 
Speaking of RFK, Trump influencer Alex Bruesewitz had something interesting to say.
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I'm not sure what news he speaks of, but splitting R votes to Kennedy certainly dove tails nicely with Fight Clubs goal of ensuring Trump loses so Ron can pick up the pieces. There has to be some reason all these principled conservatives are making sure to get the message of an abortion until birth, pro Assault Weapon Ban former heroin addict out there. But I haven't really seen any coordination action on that front yet and- I'm getting a breaking report RFK went on TV and told the nation he has worms in his fuckin' head. (A)
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If I was running for president I simply would not tell people fuckin' worms ate my fucking brain, but I didn't do smack for 14 years and drive my wife to suicide so what do I know? Anyway, enter Georgia Rep. Mike Collins. (A)
yeah I called him Lee in the filename, shut up

Of course they're out in force defending RFK over their own party.
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An interesting situation. Did RFK buy out Fight Club after Never Back Down folded? I've considered it. But as we saw Monday, fight club is still in close with the heads of Ron's Comms Team. Dual loyalties, a marriage of convenience? What say you, thread?

One thing I can say with confidence is that RFK is leaning into the Brain Worms.
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I'd admire the the dedication but.. nigga your fuckin' brain has worm holes in it. That's not a relatable thing that happens. How did this happen?

ERRATA:
Defiant Baptist, after months of sniping, finally got noticed by Matt Walsh-Sama.
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Baptist would respond to this by being a insufferably smug 13 year old, as always.
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And of course, they travel in packs.
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