music is dead - and streaming killed it

[Saddam Hussain Obama]

Reminds me of the Melvins song "Instant Larry" since it showed up on the Demon Knight soundtrack and was difficult to find on YouTube and Spotify. There are alternatives such as record stores, but you're basically paying Limited Run Games prices for overpriced plastic with fancy decorations. This is the last album I purchased before the coof shut everything down:
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go to record stores and get used CDs they are mindblowingly cheap vinyl records have sadly been inflated in price by hipsters and major labels embracing the hipsters but CDs are yet to have that effect buy them while they are cheap

 

[Dude Snakes]

Dude stop being such a doomer.

 

[Poopy Pants Swastika Boy]

go to record stores and get used CDs they are mindblowingly cheap vinyl records have sadly been inflated in price by hipsters and major labels embracing the hipsters but CDs are yet to have that effect buy them while they are cheap

Its crazy that records go for like $40 on average. Luckily i found a copy of Mass Nerder by All for cheap so I intend to buy it.

 

[eatler]

Don’t worry it will deflate in time. I don’t imagine zoomers and under will give a shit. Most the people our age will troon out and kill themselves because the drank the kool aid. And boomers will die once their 90 like the queen so we will reap the spoils of the world by age….. 70 so get hyped and consume more products!

 

[Saddam Hussain Obama]

Its crazy that records go for like $40 on average. Luckily i found a copy of Mass Nerder by All for cheap so I intend to buy it.

i know right its nuts even the used records start at 20 bucks as compared to used CDs that go as low as 2 dollars

Don’t worry it will deflate in time. I don’t imagine zoomers and under will give a shit. Most the people our age will troon out and kill themselves because the drank the kool aid. And boomers will die once their 90 like the queen so we will reap the spoils of the world by age….. 70 so get hyped and consume more products!

yeah it will deflate eventually and the zoomers don't even like rock and remusic they only like low fi and tiktok rap music that does not come out on vinyl records

 

[Death of an Ego]

The decline began with Wagner’s Tristan und Isolde and its never-ending modulations. Thankfully, Wagner repented of his sins with Parsifal, but Nietzsche was inspired by Tristan’s promotion of infinite sexual promiscuity with lack of closing climax (signified by an ending V-I cadence). Nietzsche hated Wagner when he recanted in Parsifal, so Nietzsche instead turned his affection toward Bizet’s Carmen with its African and in turn sexually immoral undertones. Thus, began the inclusion of African rhythms in Western popular music from Jazz to Rock n Roll to Pop to Hip-Hop.

The other side of the equation was the Intelligence promotion of Schoenberg and his horrid 12-tone harmony which was also inspired by Tristan’s lack of tonal center. But instead of using it as a license for sexual immorality, Schoenberg constructed a rigid system that promoted a frigid asexuality where no note has any relation to the other. And in a fell swoop, music schools no longer cared for the beauty and truth in counterpoint, but for confusion and listlessness. Then, we get the charlatans like John Cage being promoted even though they didn’t have the ability to compose even a simple nursery rhyme.

And yeah, muzak and all that.

This made me crack up. Good point and a great shitpost too.

I blame the consolidation and monopolization of music companies, which @fake farts touched on. These days the only way you get any radio play is if your music is autistically designed by a couple of grungy, pervy looking Scandis who used to be in a death metal band but now make music for preteen girls.

Sure there’s some decent indie rock but the days of arena rock bangers are over. Even rap is full of SoundCloud nigs who get like five million streams one year and disappear the next (and get killed or locked up). The only thing that gets a lot of play is shit for 12 year old girls because it’s the safest, most accessible demographic out there, which is why Maroon 5 can still pinch out boring albums but anyone doing anything interesting is one of those bands that you only hear about if Spotify recommends it to you.

Some of the best music never gets there because it's never put out on those type of platforms, and was never meant to generate profit at all. Ofc, a lot of the stuff on those platforms is horrible bullshit, ala old mp3.com, but what do you expect for free?

Spoiler

Ok here's the deal everyone. The corpos want you to listen to whatever they want that gets them the bux. Don't play that. Now, more than ever, you can try almost any new music out before you buy it. The easiest way to find new music is to subvert the algorithms. Make a youtube account from a fresh account and IP, start punching in songs you like, listen a couple hours to just listen to music you like on youtube with ublock on. You should get a good amount of stuff even if you have to filter some. Look up who you really like on bandcamp or wherever you want to support them and just buy their music/merch. For the rest, get a downloader for yt and just pull all that to a flash drive, doesn't have to be anything fancy for music. From there, either just use the drive or burn it to disc. Don't play the corpo game at all when it comes to music. I went through the napster and RIAA shit (which is why if I really want to listen to Metallica, I pirate their shit). I used to be in a couple shitty bands around 2 years ago, we just played along with the corp bs, we got word of mouth out to meet us up at afterparties where we'd play an encore at a predetermined and legal venue and sell our shit there (a long time ago I was in a band and we got busted for an underground warehouse concert in a northern state. Not fun if you're wasted as fuck and just trying to rock out). Music is not meant to be confined to any values, it's an art form. If you go into it for money, whatever. If you just want to express yourself, hey, that's cool too. Half the music I've ever made I've never put out anywhere because It didn't seem like it was worth it, and a lot of it was just fucking around or absolute garbage. Oh, and if you have a soft spot for awful pop bullshit like I do? Just rip that shit from YT, lol.

 

[Gargamel]

You guys ever heard of BitTorrent?

 

[Midwest Midwit]

Other genres might be flourishing but classical music (that isn't film or soundtrack) may as well be dead. Even the most conservative of the living composers (ex. Daniel Asia who wrote an entire article shitting on Elliott Carter's modernism) still make meandering quasi-atonal trash.

On the other hand, I don't think African rhythms entering pop music was a bad thing. In fact, you could argue 20th century black music sort of "saved" music by providing a new but still entertaining alternative to formal classical music, which was too busy huffing its own farts.

Morgoth's Review did a video a few years ago about how Classic FM was the most listened to radio station in the UK. Normal people are so demoralized by what the other stations are churning out, they're turning to orchestras and opera.

Although there mightn't be any Wozarts or Wagners on the horizon, there is a perculiar new appetite for most based genre of them all.

 

[William Murderface]

He says "music isn't as profittable as it once was" (only in the mainstream world is this true) "so albums are basically commercials for artists' tours". Well, not much has changed, then.

But that's always been the case. Ever since the 1920s and 30s, labels have been screwing over artists on record sales and the artists themselves saw records as promos to sell tickets to shows. That's where the big money was. The bigger an artist was the more of the record sale money they could get when a contract was up and the deal with the label could be renegotiated. But for most bands, the cash came from ticket sales and later merch. A band might never actually be in the black when it came to record sales once you factor advances and recording/promotion costs into the mix and so never see a dime from record sales, but they could always count on ticket and merch sales.

Of course, now the contracts are written so that the labels get a huge slice of that pie too, because they can leave no revenue source untapped. New bands hungry to get signed will go along with it out of ignorance and established bands will go along with it out of financial needs with only the top tier ones having enough clout (and the threat of going to the competition) to tell the labels "no" but those bands are few and far between.

As far as musicians and records and artistic integrity and the record experience goes, I suppose a band and producers and the label might all align on "the experience" and the order of tracks once in a while, but even if/when a record is set up to provide some message or experience or what ever, bands rarely play that experience live in any event. Yes, Floyd occasionally plays Dark Side of the Moon front to back in the same order the track list of the record provides, but far more often they'll just slip Money or Breathe (In The Air) in between Wish You Were Here and Mother.

 

[The Cringe Connoisseur]

If you want to stop seeing/hearing shit bands stop looking at mainstream channels they all push the same made for radio garbage. I was a fan of Ghost and Caravan Palace well before they exploded because I explored music from other countries, good music is out there you just have to look for it. Calabrese, Gunship, (Old) Ghost, Caravan Palace, Bloody Hammers, Anaal Nathrakh, Apocalypse Orchestra, Soilwork and more. There's A LOT of damn good music out there.

 

[Nick Gars]

All musicians will be replaced by AI.

Well, most of them. No one's gonna listen to "Lil Hubcaps" mix tape when a robot can make 12 better mixtapes in about 5 minutes.

 

[The Cringe Connoisseur]

All musicians will be replaced by AI.

Well, most of them. No one's gonna listen to "Lil Hubcaps" mix tape when a robot can make 12 better mixtapes in about 5 minutes.

The only people who can't make better music than mumble rappers are mumble rappers.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

"I Glued My Balls to My Butthole Again" literally came out this year.

Music is dead? Quite the opposite.

 

[Nameless One]

Music never dies you doomer faggot.