Microsoft hate thread - I just want to rant about Microsoft

[Rust Troony]

Okay, cool. How come we cannot do something similar for somebody obviously cheating? The technology and capability is there.

This isn't manually reviewed, its a automated speech to text that will look for bad words, just like their report feature for text is.

Macrojeet has far too much izzat to run support centers to detect cheaters, actually, you are bloddy benchode bastard for even thinking cheater exist on Xbox.

 

[Sneaky lurker]

I can't log on to my microsoft email. It gives me a 400 error after I correctly type in my password. I already tried logging in with another browser, but the issue persists. Every time I try to log in, there are these pop-ups asking me to give my PIN code or phone number, but I always refuse. My theory is that Microsoft is intentionally triggering this error so that users will have no choice but to use these additional features and give away more information than they should.
Am I prohibited from having a job now because Microsoft wants to gobble up my personal information?

 

[jeff7989]

Someone had great experience with Windows. Is Microsoft back?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CRC-bcR0GQ0

W10 decided to spread its shit onto my second drive when it was installing, because there were no partitions on it, so I wouldn't be surprised if it did something dum for him. Always check what OS does to your partitions after install.

 

[Combustion Engine]

Microsoft terminates VeraCrypt's developer account (direct link). In the HN discussion about VeraCrypt's sourceforge post, Wireguard's developer (direct link) says he's facing the same issue: account suspended out of the blue. Don't say we didn't warn you back in the day about needing permission from a corporation to run code on their (not yours) operating system, all they had to do was wait a decade and some more years for people to become more docile and domesticated. They'll surely be reinstated, but not a good look for the future, and no going back!

A Microsoft VP responded (direct link). Supposedly "user error", they didn't see the emails about account verification being rolled out in late 2025 (direct link): it entails using a monitored work email and uploading government-issued ID.

Those 2 projects are not the only ones, with Windscribe and a couple more affected. There's also a lengthy discussion about people having the same issue on a developer community (direct link). It's possible the mails notifying about this change were never received by the recipients.

 

[Unintelligence Score]

A Microsoft VP responded (direct link). Supposedly "user error", they didn't see the emails about account verification being rolled out in late 2025 (direct link): it entails using a monitored work email and uploading government-issued ID.
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Those 2 projects are not the only ones, with Windscribe and a couple more affected. There's also a lengthy discussion about people having the same issue on a developer community (direct link). It's possible the mails notifying about this change were never received by the recipients.

"It's not a conspiracy, we just suck"

 

[BiggestKai]

At some point a year ago I was given an external microsoft account for a client at my work. I used said account, finished what needed to be done, customer happy, everyone happy.

Except a few months later the account asked me to redo my login just so the authentication token can be refreshed, that's fine, but until I count do that Outlook would not respond to anything and would give me the generic windows ping sound whenever I'd try to click on anything. The thing is, that window that requested me to go and re-log in isn't even on the program bar, it's one of those super special windows that you cannot alt-tab to and have to very slowly and painfully minimize every other window until it's visible and by God Outlook is already shit enough without this extra layer of shit making it even slower to load and navigate

This happened a couple of more times, so I confirmed if I still needed that account and deleted it from my microsoft account store whatever the hell its called.
The fucking window still shows up and considering that the customer has deactivated the account I now have one more "open this piece of shit program, wait for the error message, close it and reopen it for it to work fine for the rest of the day" task to do in addition to Onenote and VScode and I hate how programs are supposed to be held together with duct tape now and everything shitting itself on a near daily basis is the norm.

 

[Susanna]

At some point a year ago I was given an external microsoft account for a client at my work. I used said account, finished what needed to be done, customer happy, everyone happy.

Except a few months later the account asked me to redo my login just so the authentication token can be refreshed, that's fine, but until I count do that Outlook would not respond to anything and would give me the generic windows ping sound whenever I'd try to click on anything. The thing is, that window that requested me to go and re-log in isn't even on the program bar, it's one of those super special windows that you cannot alt-tab to and have to very slowly and painfully minimize every other window until it's visible and by God Outlook is already shit enough without this extra layer of shit making it even slower to load and navigate

This happened a couple of more times, so I confirmed if I still needed that account and deleted it from my microsoft account store whatever the hell its called.
The fucking window still shows up and considering that the customer has deactivated the account I now have one more "open this piece of shit program, wait for the error message, close it and reopen it for it to work fine for the rest of the day" task to do in addition to Onenote and VScode and I hate how programs are supposed to be held together with duct tape now and everything shitting itself on a near daily basis is the norm.

Hello sar thank you for contacting Microsoft customer support forum.
To solve this issues please open your start menu, then select settings, then select system, then select recovery, then select Reinstall Now, then select Automatically restart my PC 15 minutes after installation, then select OK, then wait for the computer to reformat.
Thank you for contact Microsoft customer support forum. If the answer is helpful, please click "accept Answer" and kindly do the neeful and upvote it. If you have extra questions about this answer, please click "Comment". This thread is now locked: Marked answered.
SRILAKSHMI C,
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[BiggestKai]

Hello sar thank you for contacting Microsoft customer support forum.
To solve this issues please open your start menu, then select settings, then select system, then select recovery, then select Reinstall Now, then select Automatically restart my PC 15 minutes after installation, then select OK, then wait for the computer to reformat.
Thank you for contact Microsoft customer support forum. If the answer is helpful, please click "accept Answer" and kindly do the neeful and upvote it. If you have extra questions about this answer, please click "Comment". This thread is now locked: Marked answered.
SRILAKSHMI C,
Microsoft External Staff, Moderator

0/10 did not ask me to run /sfc scannow

 

[MrJokerRager]

Its Gates every single time lol.

 

[BiggestKai]

On what planet is the simple act of copying a link to your presentation(because everything's on the god damn cloud now by default and you have to go through like 5 clicks in order to save a local copy that you can upload without any kind of gay restriction or 'email me per individual that wishes to access this presentation if only to read it' shit but I digress) such a monumental task that it freezes up my entire windows system and I have to sit here with my thumb up my ass for the next 4 or so minutes while Windows gets its shit together?
God damn I hate the cloud.

 

[SchizoDaemon]

"It's not a conspiracy, we just suck"

I've been hearing that shit from Scott Hanselman and Co for about 15 years now. Scott is a Microsoft "Evangelist" and all his income basically comes from ballwashing Microsoft and sweeping. He is one of Microsoft's top Jannys.

 

[Tanaka Naoki]

I am having a minor problem right now with Teams (as per usual), and it has frustrated me enough that it actually got me thinking about just how long I have been getting my ass fucked by Microsoft. So instead of talking about a boring issue with teams, I am going to scream in this thread about Xbox.

as a kid I have a ps2 and whatever current nintendo console
get a 360
red rings within 8 months
send it back and play on ps2 and gamecube while I wait
get it back
red rings within 8 months
send it back and play on ps2 and wii while I wait
get it back
red rings within 8 months
send it back and play on ps2 and wii while I wait
get it back
red rings within 8 months
send it back and play on ps2 and NES (I got into retro) while I wait
get it back
red rings within 8 months
send it back and play on ps2 and Pc Engine while I wait
get it back
warranty has expired.
I realize I am sitting on a time bomb so I sell a bunch of retro stuff and my 360 to get a slim 360.
Lasts for 3 years before the power brick blows
system wont turn on, even with a replacement ac adaptor
decide it is time to upgrade anyway, so I get an xbox one.
within 6 months it cannot connect to the internet anymore, even when using an ethernet cable.
call support and they tell me to factory reset. I do this and it still wont work
but now I have deleted all the day one patches, which are required to even use the system offline
I have effectively bricked the system
I play ps2 and wii while deciding what I am going to do next
Realize I still have my childhood ps2 from like a decade ago and it is as good as ever.
sell my xbox on craigslist.
get a ps4
still have the ps4

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I've reached my limit with Windows 11 and Microsoft in general. I could just about deal with it being a shitty OS that breaks things from time to time because whatever, as long as it wasn't doing anything seriously damaging whatever.

Today I changed my watercooler for my CPU, something very simple and easy, right? I boot up Windows straight afterwards and... somehow I can't log into my PIN for some reason because there's an error with it, ok so I'm locked out of Windows with my Outlook and Microsoft passwords in a document file on my desktop and I realise I'm completely and utterly fucked.

I follow instructions to somehow cheat and boot into regedit to see if this fucking tip works, it finally gives me the option of typing my PIN and... it's wrong. The fucking TPM corrupted my basic fucking password so I'm logged out. I somehow cheat and find a way of getting Windows to reinstall in the hope that that fixes things... two hours later and I'm at the exact same login screen.

I don't know how I managed to do it but I eventually managed to cheat an admin privileged local account for my computer JUST so I could get in and grab as many files as possible and stick them on a USB so I can sleep on what the fuck I'm supposed to do next. I don't trust this PC now, I don't trust Microsoft and I don't trust Windows.

This is MY fucking computer. This is MY fucking hardware. These are MY fucking files. If TPM fucking up can basically fuck me over at any given point then that's that, I'm fucking over it. I'll find a way of getting over never playing some games on Steam again, fuck it I'm going straight Debian again and that's that.

The worst part? The watercooler runs like a dream, it's basically whisper quiet and super cool now so I don't even understand what the fuck even happened? I didn't replace my CPU, I didn't fuck with the CMOS battery or anything that was connected to that so I'm just guessing that a rogue bit of static was the difference between the PC running fine and the PC eating shit. If I'd dropped the fucking CPU then I'd happily admit I'm a retard, if I bent any pins same thing, but to do everything right and STILL end up in a complete fucking mess just angers me beyond all belief. It could have happened at any time, it could have happened the day before an important meeting, I just genuinely don't understand how Microsoft has such a shitty failsafe for a rogue issue like this because it basically means that the next time you change a component on your PC you might also end up completely fucked over with no way of being able to access anything on your PC.

 

[Free Alex Jones]

Is this bait? How on Earth would Windows know what type of CPU cooler anyone uses?

 

[Curry Teafag]

Is this bait? How on Earth would Windows know what type of CPU cooler anyone uses?

If you install a new cooler, you need to remove and reinsert the CPU. The BIOS notices that, and the following reinitialization of everything may screw up a lot of things so that Windows won't boot, or let you log in.

 

[Baraka Obama]

If you install a new cooler, you need to remove and reinsert the CPU. The BIOS notices that, and the following reinitialization of everything may screw up a lot of things so that Windows won't boot, or let you log in.

I upgraded two cpu coolers recently and did not need to do that.

I will say I never use disk/fs encryption on my personal systems because I understand how many ways that can go bad.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

I didn't fuck with the CMOS battery

There's a chance the CMOS battery is just fucking dead and because it's probably the first time the motherboard has gone stone cold in a very long time, it was just waiting to fuck you over. They're not rechargeable batteries.

TPM

If your system was configured as TPM + PIN to protect the authentication material as part of Windows Hello and your CMOS battery is fucked then this is pretty much expected behavior as the TPM chip is designed to clam up when weird shit happens. Windows Hello sign in PINs are not a password, it's the TPM's job to protect the real password.

Same thing would happen if you updated the BIOS, for instance. Which is why all the BIOS update utilities these days temporarily suspend BitLocker before updating.

ok so I'm locked out of Windows with my Outlook and Microsoft passwords in a document file on my desktop

How the fuck is it Microsoft's fault you store your passwords in the most retarded way possible? Do you want it to behave like Windows 98 where hitting cancel just dumps you to the desktop?

I don't know how I managed to do it but I eventually managed to cheat an admin privileged local account for my computer JUST so I could get in and grab as many files as possible

You're actually really lucky that Microsoft hasn't yet flipped the switch on automatically enabling BitLocker for every normie PC or you would've been royally fucked with no hope of recovery. I think it's precisely because of this kind of situation that they only really go hard enabling it on their own hardware.

HBCD-PE has a tool called Windows Login Unlocker for removing forgotten PINs and it also has Free Office so you could've just viewed the document containing all your passwords and saved yourself a lot of screwing around.

This is MY fucking computer. This is MY fucking hardware. These are MY fucking files.

Then don't do the normie Microsoft account sign in bullshit, use a local account and either don't have a password on it, or disable password complexity and set it to be the same as your PIN. You can do all that while still having TPM + Secure Boot for games that insist on it.

I don't trust this PC now, I don't trust Microsoft and I don't trust Windows.

I wouldn't trust it either given you probably ran a shitload of jeeted up shitware to get to this point.

My suggestion if you want to persist with Windows: Grab a fresh ISO for Windows 11 from here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/sof...d Windows 11 Disk Image (ISO) for x64 devices

Prepare an install USB using Rufus but don't select anything it offers in that Windows User Experience prompt (like the offline account stuff)

Use this to generate your own autounattend.xml file https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

Download the file, place it in the root of the install USB with the filename "autounattend.xml". Next time you boot off that USB, it'll run through the install process automatically. I use it as a ghetto reimaging tool at work, but it can work as well as a Windows 11 customization tool so you can have a pre-baked local account and all the shitware stripped away from the start.

If you install a new cooler, you need to remove and reinsert the CPU. The BIOS notices that, and the following reinitialization of everything may screw up a lot of things so that Windows won't boot, or let you log in.

AMD fTPM being on the CPU itself would probably get mad if you did reseat the chip since it probably sensed the system was being messed with due to not having any juice from the CMOS battery anymore.

 

[Curry Teafag]

I upgraded two cpu coolers recently and did not need to do that.

Well, it could depend on the BIOS. My AMD X470 board's BIOS does it. The below is most likely the reason:

AMD fTPM being on the CPU itself would probably get mad if you did reseat the chip since it probably sensed the system was being messed with due to not having any juice from the CMOS battery anymore.

 

[Free Alex Jones]

Prepare an install USB

You might want to take a look at https://github.com/rbalsleyMSFT/FFU for a way to create USB installers, I've never used anything that deploys faster than this.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I'll hold my hands up and admit a level of retardation on my point that I didn't realise that a microsoft account wasn't entirely local, I just assumed it was a way of verifying Windows so my actual account on the device was local and used a local password. Turns out this isn't the case and yes, TPM does affect way more than that, but to 99% of users they're never going to ever end up in a situation like this so I still stand by my remark that it could happen to anyone with a botched Microsoft update or literally anything.

There's also the horrifying realisation that I might have accidentally reseated the CPU without realising, breaking the power from the CMOS and fucking the TPM.

I could have probably acquired a laptop, had a USB on hand with a liveOS that I could have used to access my files and find the password, take a screenshot of it and go back into the system and everything would have been hunky dory, which is also a failure on my behalf. But the issue was that at that moment in time I had nothing to get into my PC and no other means of verifying my account to get back into my account. I'd been caught completely with my pants down, and the typical USB creation tools I could use were locked at the other side of the PC I couldn't access.

But ultimately I don't want TPM. I don't want bitlocker. I don't want any of my files encrypted because I assume the relevant authorities have a backdoor anyway. I want an OS where I can literally just keep my files on local storage. No cloud shit, nothing, just MY files on the expensive hard drives I own. If anything fucks up, I can just use a LiveOS to grab them. It looks like that's straight up not possible with modern Windows so looks like I'm gonna revert back to Debian again.