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- 23 de Mar, 2013
I can see how claiming that it was shot down would be preferable to saying "yeah... we lost another one. Oops."
MH17 Shot down over Ukraine
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- 23 de Jul, 2013
Slavs gonna Slav.
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
I can't believe something like Korean Airlines 007 happened again. I wrote a big paper on that incident for a history of Russia class a few years back, and even back then something like that seemed so unbelievable and surreal.
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- 2 de Abr, 2014
Oh i'd forgotten about that. Reading the wiki page now.
My parents are flying to the UK from Australia in a few weeks. I'm waiting for my mum to say she's transiting through the USA instead of Asia.
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- 2 de Abr, 2014
You should see the news here, war talk.
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- 14 de Oct, 2013
Where do you live and what channels are you talking about?
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- 2 de Abr, 2014
Australia & ABC News 24
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- 7 de Jul, 2013
I live in a rural region and even the local news is covering what happened to that airplane. Normally they cover stuff like agriculture prices on the market and maybe the occasional meth lab in some trailer park. I think the last foreign bit of news they covered was something about Damien Torn's George Windsor's first year birthday.
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- 2 de Abr, 2014
First came the loud explosion that made buildings rattle: then it started raining bodies.
One of the corpses fell through the rickety roof of Irina Tipunova's house in this sleepy village, just after Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 exploded high over eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian separatists are fighting government forces.
"There was a howling noise and everything started to rattle. Then objects started falling out of the sky," the 65-year-old pensioner said in front of her grey-brick home.
"And then I heard a roar and she landed in the kitchen, the roof was broken," she said, showing the gaping hole made by the body when it came through the ceiling of the kitchen in an extension to the house.
The dead woman's naked body was still lying inside the house, next to a bed.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/18/us-ukraine-crisis-bodies-idUSKBN0FN1JJ20140718
One of the corpses fell through the rickety roof of Irina Tipunova's house in this sleepy village, just after Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 exploded high over eastern Ukraine, where pro-Russian separatists are fighting government forces.
"There was a howling noise and everything started to rattle. Then objects started falling out of the sky," the 65-year-old pensioner said in front of her grey-brick home.
"And then I heard a roar and she landed in the kitchen, the roof was broken," she said, showing the gaping hole made by the body when it came through the ceiling of the kitchen in an extension to the house.
The dead woman's naked body was still lying inside the house, next to a bed.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/18/us-ukraine-crisis-bodies-idUSKBN0FN1JJ20140718
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- 26 de Feb, 2013
I'll call it. Putin ordered it.
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- 25 de Jun, 2013
It's still unclear what the full story is. I seriously doubt Putin actually wanted this to happen, he has nothing to gain from it. Then again, there's nothing to gain from the separatists either.
All that's happening is him being alienated.
All that's happening is him being alienated.
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- 14 de Oct, 2013
Why the hell would Putin want to bring down a random passenger plane? Did he order it just for shits and giggles?
Also, Reddit's news boards are currently experiencing a massive upsurge of jingoism: many high rated comments urge the US government to make Russia pay for the plane disaster.
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- 26 de Feb, 2013
If he can invade Ukraine just for shits and giggles, he definitely can order a plane to be gunned down just for his shits and giggles.
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- 3 de Feb, 2013
The plane was shot down in Ukraine, an area Putin has no power over, and it was in rebel territory, an area hardly anyone has power over.
The separatists are in favor of Putin's policies, but I doubt they take orders directly from him.
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- 21 de Jun, 2013
Lol.
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- 10 de Sep, 2013
why would putin order this?
if he was smart he'd look at 83' when the soviet union shot down that korean jet that went into soviet airspace, after that the soviet union's rep was trashed. why would he want that?
it's not like putin is sitting in a desk in moscow, laughing after ordering a passenger jet to get blown up. he's probably as shocked and mortified as every other world leader. besides its not like the rebels are listening to putin, last time i heard they were pissy at him for not sending aid.
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- 4 de Abr, 2013
I bet Jace has some interesting theories about how this plane went down.
Have you ever even met a Russian? They are a psychotically violent and completely degenerate race. Russians delight in murder and mayhem. In short, they have autism.
Have you ever even met a Russian? They are a psychotically violent and completely degenerate race. Russians delight in murder and mayhem. In short, they have autism.
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- 10 de Nov, 2013
im going to do something i dont usually do and dignify you with a response:
he didnt invade ukraine "for shits and giggles", he did it because putin's got a long-standing reputation for doing things that are diplomatically unsound for the sake of maintaining his domestic cult of personality. not to degenerate into godwin territory here, but he did it for the same reasons authoritarian rulers with a nationalistic streak did it before him - you sacrifice your global image but make yourself look a whole lot better at home. Hitler seizing the Rhineland is a perfectly apt comparison - it's a territory long-considered to be Russian by the Russians, and if the rest of the world doesn't like it, they can suck a big fat one.
tl;dr putin's sacrificing his international reputation for the sake of domestic unity. and thus far it's worked for him. putin's not a mad man, he's just a politician the likes of which we haven't seen in a powerful nation for quite some time. ascribing to madness what can instead be ascribed to cold, hard politics is a mistake that we as a society cannot afford to make.
he probably didn't directly order the gunning down of the plane, thinking he has that much direct control in the micromanaging of what goes on is kind of retarded. it's like saying obama orders any random drone strike in the middle east. he has people doing that for him.
besides, from what i understand, this happened in the territory of pro-russian rebels, rather than the russian military itself. it's not too far-fetched to assume the untrained rebels got a little trigger happy.
regardless, this is a tragedy, and my condolences go out to those affected by this disastrous turn of events.
EDIT: I still don't see this escalating to the point of full-scale war between the u.s. and russia. that kind of thing just doesn't happen anymore, because we're all aware of how a war like that would end: with a helluva lot of dead people and russia's economy in the ground. It's more likely that we'll see harsher and harsher trade sanctions between the two nations before putin dies we go back to a period of incredibly tense neutrality.