Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Manwithn0n0men]

Bob Iger calls Scorsese and Coppola's attacks despicable for attacking MCU.

Disney boss says Scorsese and Coppola can ‘bitch’ about Marvel if they want

Bob Iger said if the directors ‘want to bitch about movies, that’s certainly their right’ but they clearly ‘don’t see how the audience is reacting to them’

www.independent.co.uk

especially as FFC complimented marvel films

 

[RumblyTumbly]

How dare they disagree with the majority!

Shun them! Shun them I say!

Seriously though, I don't fully agree with Scorsese and Coppola's takes on the MCU. Some of the MCU films I really liked a lot (Winter Soldier, Infinity War, Iron Man 1, Guardians 1, etc.) but for God's sake, it is okay to have dissenting opinions guys.

I mean, you can throw box office numbers at me all day long. I'll still take Moneyball over almost every film I've seen in the last decade. I loved that movie. Does that make me a bad person for daring to say the Brad Pitt baseball movie is better than the MCU?

And I'll say it again, are we really that surprised that the guys that made Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Apocalypse Now, and The Godfather don't like the cape movies? Is that really a shock to people?

And where did we get to this point where your hobbies are treated like a religion that you have to defend? Maybe its because I grew up watching Wrestling and Godzilla movies, which are constantly mocked, but I don't need the world to like everything that I like. I like what I like and that's good enough.

 

[Comicsgeist]

I do wonder if part of the reason people rabidly defend the MCU is the Disney brand.

If Fox or Sony had beaten them to the punch and made a cinematic universe surrounding the X-Men/FF and Spider-Man characters would we see the same die-hard fanboyism?

Cultish brand loyalty is half the reason.
The other half, I suspect, is down to the arrested development nature of these particular Disney fans.
Scorsese, Coppola and Loach's criticism presents an existential threat to all those adults with beds covered in stuffed toys and shelves full of action figures, because it comes with the implicit criticism that 'possibly' those faggots need to grow up and learn to 'adult', rather than wrapping themselves in eternal childhood as facilitated by Disney where 'childhood is eternal'.
Hence the diaper shitting and reeeeeeeeing, it's not just an insult to their favourite movies, it's a personal attack on their dubious lifestyle choices by parental authority figures.

 

[Gordon Cole]

Marvel Movies Aren’t Sexy Enough for Pedro Almodóvar, Says Pedro Almodóvar

“Sexuality doesn’t exist for superheroes. They are neutered.”

www.vulture.com

As silly as it sounds, he kinda has a point. You're telling me that grown adults running around in spandex and tights aren't at least a little turned on by each other?

 

[The Great Chandler]

The one on the top right was also a former friend of Mike Stoklasa

lol What happened?

 

[Gar For Archer]

Marvel Movies Aren’t Sexy Enough for Pedro Almodóvar, Says Pedro Almodóvar

“Sexuality doesn’t exist for superheroes. They are neutered.”

www.vulture.com

As silly as it sounds, he kinda has a point. You're telling me that grown adults running around in spandex and tights aren't at least a little turned on by each other?

It’s no surprise that the MCU doesn’t deal with more mature/adult themes because they pretty much just play straight your typical superhero tropes. You’ll only ever see a more serious treatment of romance/sexuality in works that deliberately subvert those tropes.

 

[Reverend]

Bob Iger calls Scorsese and Coppola's attacks despicable for attacking MCU.

Disney boss says Scorsese and Coppola can ‘bitch’ about Marvel if they want

Bob Iger said if the directors ‘want to bitch about movies, that’s certainly their right’ but they clearly ‘don’t see how the audience is reacting to them’

www.independent.co.uk

Oscar winning film directors giving two fucks over some company accountant hack who will NEVER hire them? Unlikely.

 

[Scratch This Nut]

I really love the MCU because it’s just a nice bit of escapism. And that’s all they are and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Hell these guys are like eighty. It would be weirder if they DID like them.

Christ I feel bad for my dad now. My younger brother keeps dragging him to see these kinds of movies and he’s absolutely sick of them.

 

[That Chris Guy]

Christ I feel bad for my dad now. My younger brother keeps dragging him to see these kinds of movies and he’s absolutely sick of them.

I'm still not really convinced it's going to slow down soon either. Even though a bunch of people said they were hopping off at Endgame, I doubt they'll stick to their word. Marvel has manufactured the Call of Duty of film franchises here, and in spite of all the vehement denial they'll still be there on opening night paying for front row seats with every instalment.

 

[Clipper]

Disney has a whole entire timeline of the MCU planned out until the heat death of the universe. They'll only stop making them when people stop paying to go see every single one of them.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Am I the only person who considered Avengers Endgame the most over-rated film in the MCU ?

 

[Scratch This Nut]

Am I the only person who considered Avengers Endgame the most over-rated film in the MCU ?

The GotG movies are superior yes.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

The GotG movies are superior yes.

IMO so are Avengers I and III, Cap 2 and 3

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Am I the only person who considered Avengers Endgame the most over-rated film in the MCU ?

Nope. I thought it was a considerable step-down from Infinity War and thought at times a lot of it was borderline Age of Ultron. I didn't expect 100% grim brooding, but a lot of it seemed more Whedon humor than I was expecting so long after his tenure (Captain Marvel was horrendous with it as well so I guess I should have expected it), and I've never really been a huge fan of time travel shit since I feel like it's generally just asspull plots.

Enjoyed it, but way less than the ones before it and now that I sit down and think of it, more because of a handful of good scenes as opposed to a cohesive narrative.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Nope. I thought it was a considerable step-down from Infinity War and thought at times a lot of it was borderline Age of Ultron. I didn't expect 100% grim brooding, but a lot of it seemed more Whedon humor than I was expecting so long after his tenure (Captain Marvel was horrendous with it as well so I guess I should have expected it), and I've never really been a huge fan of time travel shit since I feel like it's generally just asspull plots.

Enjoyed it, but way less than the ones before it and now that I sit down and think of it, more because of a handful of good scenes as opposed to a cohesive narrative.

I thought Endgame pretty much met my expectations as an ending to the previous 10 years of the MCU. As a movie, it’s weaker than Infinity War, but Infinity War also had a way easier job: it’s allowed to tell it’s own self-contained story, and in the context of the MCU - both current-day and when looking back in the future - nobody will judge it for being an “incomplete” movie because it’s been very clearly sold as “Avengers: The Last Chapter: Part 1”.

Endgame, on the other hand, has to not only cap off on the plot of Infinity War, but also pay respect to the rest of the MCU, all while maintaining a more-or-less coherent plot, and personally I feel it succeeded in balancing those three aspects. It’s not to say that Endgame is a perfect movie by any means - but I do think that given those three factors, along with budget and runtime constraints, they did about as good as they possibly could have.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ut5sk0RUlS4
I'm still not really convinced it's going to slow down soon either. Even though a bunch of people said they were hopping off at Endgame, I doubt they'll stick to their word. Marvel has manufactured the Call of Duty of film franchises here, and in spite of all the vehement denial they'll still be there on opening night paying for front row seats with every instalment.

It's not even been a year since Far From Home and Black Widow isn't even out yet.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Marvel Movies Aren’t Sexy Enough for Pedro Almodóvar, Says Pedro Almodóvar

“Sexuality doesn’t exist for superheroes. They are neutered.”

www.vulture.com

As silly as it sounds, he kinda has a point. You're telling me that grown adults running around in spandex and tights aren't at least a little turned on by each other?

They won't. Richard Madden isn't gay and I'm pretty sure his character romances Angelina. Sooooo................

The Cap/Tony/Bucky shippers are up there with Superwholock in terms of insane fans.
It's why I like Black Widow. At least she isn't really shoehorned in there.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Cultish brand loyalty is half the reason.

I hate how Cultish people are becoming, more and more people are acting like members of Scientology or something and that's just increasingly being seen as normal.

I like the MCU but it doesn't deserve that kind of devotion, it's just movies.

 

[First Aid Kit]

Not sure if this one fits here, but Jeremy Renner got allegation about him threatening to kill his ex-wife and himself from last year, more details come out from his nanny and a friend.
Now some says Marvel considering options with him as Hawkeye, may as well reading twitter thread for "cancel culture vs due process". The bit.ly article.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Well, that sucks, I like Jeremy Renner.