Marvel Cinematic Universe

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I can't defend Legends Season 1..or anything past season 4...but there was a bit where Legends was a surprisingly entertaining show with fun characters interacting in fun ways.
It probably helps that I skipped the first two seasons and joined later. I did that with Agents of Shield as well. Other than the odd missed reference and emotional beat that didn't work for me, it's surprisingly inconsequential.

I think what makes that show's humor work where the MCU fails is that it isn't afraid to get goofy. It doesn't make jokes pointing out how weird it is.
I know this is the Marvel thread not the DC thread but I think I can keep this on-topic. You're right that it isn't afraid to get goofy. There's an episode where they save the Earth by winning some X-Factor style gameshow. They tie it to an emotional character moment and play is straight. It's not just being unafraid to be goofy, it's that it's because they're not ashamed of what they're making. Same with Ms. Marvel (told you I'd keep it on topic). I know I perhaps over-praise that show but it's one of the most sincere contributions of the Marvel franchise. Very natural feeling and doesn't keep deflating real emotion out of embarrassment. I think that's the unifying factor in my favourite Superhero shows - Stargirl, Legends / Arrow, Ms. Marvel, Young Justice. They're all all-in on what they are. I mean I guess you could say Arrow is notably less comic-booky than it's source material. Like they turned Solomon Grundy into some drug-powered soldier guy for example (whereas Stargirl really went all in on his comic book version). But Arrow still gets a pass because even if they introduced the more comic book elements bit by bit, they still took themselves seriously. They still acted like adults. That's what I dislike in the MCU. They're like kids (mostly). Isn't it perverse when Ms. Marvel in her own show acts like less of a kid than Thor? She may fangirl and squee but she treats threats as if they're consequential.

And if Arrow quips it still feels real. I love an exchange where Felicity is trying to get Oliver to train someone:
"The last person I trained I put an arrow in his leg."
"Yes, but Barry healed fine."
"I meant Roy. But yes, also Barry."

It's funny because his delivery is so straight and only Oliver could put an arrow in a friend's leg twice.

That's how you quip: Without losing emotion, with it coming out of nowhere and most of all with it being in character.

I'm not even sure the line above is a quip exactly. Oliver actually means it. That show struck gold with Steven Amell.

This is the team composition for the main battles too:
Well I don't think that'll hold up anymore even if some of this has survived into Doomsday. I doubt Brie Larson will want to come back after the brutal reaction her last movie received. But a paycheck is a paycheck. Who knows. I feel sorry for some of these cast members. Like Letitia Wright (raked over coals for refusing the Covid Vaccine) and decent actress, Chris Hemsworth (well aware that his character is increasingly written as a joke) and a couple of others. They deserve better. Though they get paid well for it I guess.
 
It probably helps that I skipped the first two seasons and joined later. I did that with Agents of Shield as well. Other than the odd missed reference and emotional beat that didn't work for me, it's surprisingly inconsequential.
Agents of SHIELD had the problem of trying to make every character THE COOLEST PERSON IN THE UNIVERSE, but nobody ever did anything cool.

It was really sad when two of the COOLEST PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE were a 60 year old asian woman who could do karate (but only offscreen) and a middle aged bald man who basically stood around, did nothing, and if things somehow went his way, he'd smirk and go "all according to plan."
 
Honestly missed when Marvel actually had to try and prove themselves for their movies, even if they're not perfect some of their older stuff feels like there was actual care put into it compared to the crap today.


Like the only time Marvel movies are good now is if there's like a small chance you get a competent filmmaker actually at the helm who actually wants to make something that Marvel won't have their greasy little palms in.
 
If doomsday is retooled from this, fuck

I can 100% see them retooling the opening. For the writers, it's an easy way for them to create some drama. Maybe top it off with old Captain America and have Doctor Doom kill him to show how evil/serious he is or something. Since it's RDJ, I could see them play around with it. Have the current team horrified because they thought it was Tony returned from the dead or another alt universe.
 
I can 100% see them retooling the opening. For the writers, it's an easy way for them to create some drama. Maybe top it off with old Captain America and have Doctor Doom kill him to show how evil/serious he is or something. Since it's RDJ, I could see them play around with it. Have the current team horrified because they thought it was Tony returned from the dead or another alt universe.
I think it could work if it’s assumed (by the heroes) to be Tony of the fox universe, but he uses that trust to activate ultron level doom bots and open the way to an incursion between them

It was “doom’s day” because he tricked them all but also because he won

I kinda do like the logic behind how kang becomes a beyonder kang by absorbing his clones in the beyond zone, it works enough. They need something to get doom from just having strong magic and tech to that

Unless they reuse the Shang chi and Kamala relics to do it
 
Daredevil Born Again is chopped up garbage. I feel ill even torrenting this piece of shit garbage.

(Netflix) Daredevil Season 1 - 3 is 20 times more better than this... this monstrosity.

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I, for one, cannot wait to see Patrick Stewart's Charles Xavier die for the motherfucking umpteenth time.

lol.
X-Men: The Last Stand
FUCKING OBLITERATED
X-Men: Days of Future Past
FUCKING OBLITERATED WITH A BEAM
Logan (2017)
RAPED BY A CLONE
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
MIND PEGGED IN THE NAME OF GIRL POWER
 
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Daredevil Born Again is chopped up garbage. I feel ill even torrenting this piece of shit garbage.

(Netflix) Daredevil Season 1 - 3 is 20 times more better than this... this monstrosity.

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The only episode I really paid attention to was the bank heist episode, which felt like a bad episode of one of those CBS action/adventure series like Magnum P.I., Burn Notice or Human Target. Frankly, I wouldn't mind a Marvel series that embraced the action/adventure episodic genre. But not in the follow-up to Netflix's Daredevil.
 
Honestly missed when Marvel actually had to try and prove themselves for their movies, even if they're not perfect some of their older stuff feels like there was actual care put into it compared to the crap today.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rtSrWn7eYbU
Like the only time Marvel movies are good now is if there's like a small chance you get a competent filmmaker actually at the helm who actually wants to make something that Marvel won't have their greasy little palms in.
The Phase 1 films almost feel like they're in a separate universe with how disconnected they are from the rest of the MCU. There are no gay quips. They just took their premises seriously regardless of how silly they could be.
 
The Phase 1 films almost feel like they're in a separate universe with how disconnected they are from the rest of the MCU. There are no gay quips. They just took their premises seriously regardless of how silly they could be.
Notice how the quipping and tv quality became prevalent because of Joss Whedon?
 
IICR (and I remember this from the cartoon), Master Sentinel said mutants are human, so there is a reason for them to go after humans. The future from DOFP doesn't look very happy for humans either, so they started to kill them because they sided with mutants or because they carried the x-gene.

If they were creative, they can have sentinels go after the heroes and start noticing some carry a "special" gene. It hasn't been fully revealed, but Kamala and Namor are mutants. That could be a good introduction to the mutants, but now they're using the fox X men, they're relying on us just knowing.
X-Men: The Last Stand
FUCKING OBLITERATED
X-Men: Days of Future Past
FUCKING OBLITERATED WITH A BEAM
Logan (2017)
RAPED BY A CLONE
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
MIND PEGGED IN THE NAME OF GIRL POWER
It's not better for him in comics. Fandom now seem to hate Xavier and prefer Magneto for being a terrorist while Xavier is the asshole who wants them to adapt to the world.

These new ultimate spider man comics are pretty good.

Peter Parker looking all chud like with a beard and two kids and MJ.

Unlike the soy twinkish cucks being promoted by Marvel in the movies and mainline comic.

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I wonder if movies will adapt Paul.
 
IICR (and I remember this from the cartoon), Master Sentinel said mutants are human, so there is a reason for them to go after humans. The future from DOFP doesn't look very happy for humans either, so they started to kill them because they sided with mutants or because they carried the x-gene.

If they were creative, they can have sentinels go after the heroes and start noticing some carry a "special" gene. It hasn't been fully revealed, but Kamala and Namor are mutants. That could be a good introduction to the mutants, but now they're using the fox X men, they're relying on us just knowing.

It's not better for him in comics. Fandom now seem to hate Xavier and prefer Magneto for being a terrorist while Xavier is the asshole who wants them to adapt to the world.


I wonder if movies will adapt Paul.
They ever adapt Paul, they will get a ton of hatewatchers in it for the memes, like with A Minecraft Movie.
 
Marvel Editorial has become completely fed up with hearing about Spidermans' marriage. There's no point in talking to them about it, at this point they'd stick to him being miserable and cucked just to spite the fans that helped them build up what they've got. I bet more than a few of the old guard writers have asked to fix it only to be told to shut up and keep him moping.
 
Marvel Editorial has become completely fed up with hearing about Spidermans' marriage. There's no point in talking to them about it, at this point they'd stick to him being miserable and cucked just to spite the fans that helped them build up what they've got. I bet more than a few of the old guard writers have asked to fix it only to be told to shut up and keep him moping.
Fucking Paul…. I hope Zeb Wells gets raped to death by someone named Paul for that ASM run.

Plot twist.

MJ in the new comic, is from the 616.

And the current MJ is a skrull.

How else can she be so non challant and even expected it.

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