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[Oats12345]

No. It wasn't. It wasn't funny, it wasn't entertaining, and at times the editing was terrible. She overacted to look cool or badass and instead she looked like an autistic 14 year old girl, ie: blowing her hair on the subway. Nick Fury becomes a clueless asshole, she's too powerful, etc etc. You've already heard it before so I won't repeat it all, but it's not just because Brie Larson and cronies are assholes and soured any good will for the movie. At the very best it's mediocre, but it has a lowkey very smug and disgusting sensation to it that I can't shake off. At worst it's a shitty fanfiction turned into movie. The only plot point that caught me off guard is the aliens chasing Brie turning out to be the good guys.

And I don't buy it that only just one writer, producer, or director had a hand in it. From what I remember Brie Larson was pretty hands-on with the role and promotioning. If she wasn't maybe she should've stepped off the autistic tirades on interviews.

Correction, it was white male critics. You think that only movie critics are allowed to do things like criticise or judge movies? The message was pretty clear unless you're too stupid to understand the implication.

You are correct about the white male critics quote. Noting was out of context there.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Nick Fury becomes a clueless asshole, she's too powerful, etc etc.

They did butcher Nick Fury and his backstory. Like how he said in The Winter Soldier that he lost his eye because he trusted someone, only for us to realize he got scratched in the eye by a cat.

Or how he said that SHIELD "didn't know that extraterrestrial beings existed until Thor arrived" even though he saw the Skrulls LONG before then.

 

[Seventh Star]

They did butcher Nick Fury and his backstory. Like how he said in The Winter Soldier that he lost his eye because he trusted someone, only for us to realize he got scratched in the eye by a cat.

Or how he said that SHIELD "didn't know that extraterrestrial beings existed until Thor arrived" even though he saw the Skrulls LONG before then.

I had a big problem with the editing actually. The movie is forgettable as all hell but I recall a few scenes having way too many cuts or being disjointed to the point you can tell something was cut in between them. Particularly when Nick Fury and Brie were traveling around looking for... something. I can remember the plot to Ant Man 1 better. Poor Nick Fury was done dirty.

 

[The Valeyard]

Big rumours of Kingpin for Hawkeye, presumably appearing in a credits thing for Ep4 before appearing properly in the fifth episode. Possibly using a fat suit and CGi to make him the true absolute unit we all know him as. Nothing confirmed yet.

If Charlie Cox is coming back to play Matt Murdock/Daredevil in Marvel Studios projects, they should also bring back Vincent D’Onofrio as Kingpin.

 

[starborn427614]

If Charlie Cox is coming back to play Matt Murdock/Daredevil in Marvel Studios projects, they should also bring back Vincent D’Onofrio as Kingpin.

He's made some interesting comments about how much he's enjoyed the MCU shows, so...who knows.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

lmfao damn son. They could afford it for Shang-chi, but not the movie 2 months later? C'mon..

they blew their last load of cash on Shang-chi duh.
Jokes aside I personally don't think Disney is on the verge of bankruptcy, Eternals and Hawkeye's critic scores where most likely a case of them getting cocky, I mean look at the shitty movie posters where they recycle the same pose over and over again they don't put in the effor because they know consoomers will consoom, they just got a little too confident this time

 

[starborn427614]

they blew their last load of cash on Shang-chi duh.
Jokes aside I personally don't think Disney is on the verge of bankruptcy, Eternals and Hawkeye's critic scores where most likely a case of them getting cocky, I mean look at the shitty movie posters where they recycle the same pose over and over again they don't put in the effor because they know consoomers will consoom, they just got a little too confident this time

Dunno which site did that negative review earlier in the the thread, but it seems to be doing well overall going by RT. What really surprised me though was Shang-Chi being that high.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Dunno which site did that negative review earlier in the the thread, but it seems to be doing well overall going by RT. What really surprised me though was Shang-Chi being that high.

probably the same schizo who made the "bankrupt thread". Shang-Chi being very highly rated is normal no one want to piss off our chinese overlords goy

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Black Widow was not all STRANG POWAHFUL WAMEN 'not like other girls' bullshit thank fucking god. It was definitely about sisters, trauma, and family. I did not see it as a #metoo thing. If anything it leans into La Femme Nikita territory.

I still gotta watch Shang Chi but so far it seems BW, SC, and Hawkeye are major successes. The other marvel shows and Eternals are shit.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Black Widow was not all STRANG POWAHFUL WAMEN 'not like other girls' bullshit thank fucking god. It was definitely about sisters, trauma, and family. I did not see it as a #metoo thing. If anything it leans into La Femme Nikita territory.

I still gotta watch Shang Chi but so far it seems BW, SC, and Hawkeye are major successes. The other marvel shows and Eternals are shit.

I'm gonna say that Shang-Chi was a disappointment but not a flop, too many people confuse the two terms these days, why I do I consider it a disappointment? because its sole purpose was to cater to the chink market and get those sweet china bucks, but china said "lol no" and refused to air it (as of this comment), they don't care if american consoomers loved it, their primary market bailed on it, and now to get all conspiracy theory, there is no way that movie costed less than 200 millions seeing how sfx heavy the final act is, and if that is the case then a $431.5 million film failed to break even, but ignoring my autistic conspiracies, that film was supposed to get the chinks to consoom the MCU and failed, which is ironic since the chinks already liked the MCU they didn't need a chink hero to identify with.

Spoiler: autistic drunken ramblings

I hate this retarded american ideology that you need heros of your same race and wealth class in order to feel empathy, one of my favorite heroes is batman and I'm not an orphan nor a millionaire, my other favorite hero is The Hulk, and I'm not a super smart scientist with anger issues, I just want to see a hero kick ass, have flaws but ultimately overcome said flaws or learn to live with them, but Disney fails to realize this

 

[Seventh Star]

I hate this retarded american ideology that you need heros of your same race and wealth class in order to feel empathy.

The concept of relatability in movies is funny. It's the most American thing possible. Everything being about you, the world, the movies, how people talk to you, the entertainment you watch, they have to center around you. I can't stand being around the dumb, narcissistic, brainless consumers that seem to saturate every corner of the internet.

 

[starborn427614]

The concept of relatability in movies is funny. It's the most American thing possible. Everything being about you, the world, the movies, how people talk to you, the entertainment you watch, they have to center around you. I can't stand being around the dumb, narcissistic, brainless consumers that seem to saturate every corner of the internet.

I was genuinely surprised when Shang-Chi opened with Chinese dialogue with subtitles. More of that sort of thing would be cool in MCU stuff.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

Just finished Shang Chi and I'm... a little confused. Are Shang and Katy really supposed to be 24, or with the timeskip in Endgame is it supposed to be like 2031 in the MCU?

Shang Chi was a terrible movie. Every since GotG, Marvel movies have started with the heroes in childhood even if there's no reason to start that far back. Shang Chi is no exception, and may be one of the worst applications of it*. We don't just get to see a single traumatic event in young Shang's life, we time skip all over the fucking place, have frequent flashbacks and spend ungodly amounts of time indulging in retarded sentimentality over his dead mom and overbearing father. By the halfway point, I was fastforwarding past any flashback with the mother because it became so goddamn redundant. The script definitely could have used another pass to tighten up the storytelling.

I'm going to post this scene from Star Wars to illustrate my point. We didn't need a flashback of baby Luke watching Darth Vader kill his father to understand his motivation. We didn't need constant flashbacks with sappy orchestral music to show us that Luke cares about his father. Heck, there's no music in the scene until Obi-Wan starts talking about the force.

This is economy in storytelling. This is the work of a director who respects his audience's time and patience. Shang Chi's emotional fiber is trite garbage.

Besides that, I hated the cameos from the Mandarin and Dr. Strange's fat assistant; hated the cgi monster fight at the end; and hated the overlong bus fight. Overall, this is a movie that would have been much better if it were made in the late 80s instead of in the bloated, cgi-infested 2020s.

*I haven't seen Captain Marbles, so that could be worse. Hawkeye putting Kate and Echo's childhood origins in back-to-back episodes was nearly as bad.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Meanwhile, in a different MCU…

 

[Mecha-Jerkop]

The entire soundtrack for No Way Home has leaked online. Link here.

Spoiler: Track 19

Track 19 contains a segment from the Responsibility theme, 1:50, or if you want to see the important part:

 

[Gar For Archer]

Just finished Shang Chi and I'm... a little confused. Are Shang and Katy really supposed to be 24, or with the timeskip in Endgame is it supposed to be like 2031 in the MCU?

Shang Chi was a terrible movie. Every since GotG, Marvel movies have started with the heroes in childhood even if there's no reason to start that far back. Shang Chi is no exception, and may be one of the worst applications of it*. We don't just get to see a single traumatic event in young Shang's life, we time skip all over the fucking place, have frequent flashbacks and spend ungodly amounts of time indulging in retarded sentimentality over his dead mom and overbearing father. By the halfway point, I was fastforwarding past any flashback with the mother because it became so goddamn redundant. The script definitely could have used another pass to tighten up the storytelling.

I'm going to post this scene from Star Wars to illustrate my point. We didn't need a flashback of baby Luke watching Darth Vader kill his father to understand his motivation. We didn't need constant flashbacks with sappy orchestral music to show us that Luke cares about his father. Heck, there's no music in the scene until Obi-Wan starts talking about the force.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0tQiPrdRZM0This is economy in storytelling. This is the work of a director who respects his audience's time and patience. Shang Chi's emotional fiber is trite garbage.

Besides that, I hated the cameos from the Mandarin and Dr. Strange's fat assistant; hated the cgi monster fight at the end; and hated the overlong bus fight. Overall, this is a movie that would have been much better if it were made in the late 80s instead of in the bloated, cgi-infested 2020s.

*I haven't seen Captain Marbles, so that could be worse. Hawkeye putting Kate and Echo's childhood origins in back-to-back episodes was nearly as bad.

I don’t even particularly like Star Wars, but ANH’s opening is a masterclass in main character introductions. Just from a few lines of dialogue with his uncle, you’re shown just about everything you need to know about Luke’s background and motivations, and also does some really understated worldbuilding by showing that on a backwater planet like Tatooine, the Empire is viewed ambivalently, if not as a benevolent ruling power.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

The entire soundtrack for No Way Home has leaked online. Link here.

Spoiler: Track 19

Track 19 contains a segment from the Responsibility theme, 1:50, or if you want to see the important part: https://youtube.com/watch?v=if70dEhekyU:88

This is sad. This is so fucking sad. Having to call back to older, far superior movies to get your audience excited for cookie cutter sequel #37 has to be so embarrassing. What is this, 2017?

Black Widow was not all STRANG POWAHFUL WAMEN 'not like other girls' bullshit thank fucking god. It was definitely about sisters, trauma, and family. I did not see it as a #metoo thing. If anything it leans into La Femme Nikita territory.

I still gotta watch Shang Chi but so far it seems BW, SC, and Hawkeye are major successes. The other marvel shows and Eternals are shit.

Sisterhood and trauma are pillars of MeToo bullshit, though. But why were 75% of the widows black if they were all Russian runaways?

 

[Internet's Boyfriend]

Sisterhood and trauma are pillars of MeToo bullshit, though. But why were 75% of the widows black if they were all Russian runaways?

I think they were kidnapped from all over the world, not just Russia but IIRC the only presumably Russian widow was black which annoys me to no end. There are a ton of different ethnic groups in Russia, if they wanted a POC widow why didn't they do some actual research and cast someone who could pass as like Ossetian or something? Like yeah, black Russians exist but they always default "non-white" to black and it's so boring.

 

[The Lawgiver]

On its own Captain Marvel is an average movie. The backlash was a response to the media going back to the playbook they’d used for Ghostbusters 2016 where anyone who didn’t like the movie was a sexist troll.

that and the weird shit with the "GREAT SUCCESS! SOLD OUT MORE THAN ANY OTHER MOVIE!!" and the people that went there the first few days in normally active areas finding like just empty theatres taking photos of it when it happened.

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

that and the weird shit with the "GREAT SUCCESS! SOLD OUT MORE THAN ANY OTHER MOVIE!!" and the people that went there the first few days in normally active areas finding like just empty theatres taking photos of it when it happened.

When Shang-Chi opened in Theaters, Wikipedia claimed that it had broken Endgame's record for the fastest growing film in history, and also had the biggest opening in history, they removed those claims shortly afterwards, probably once they realized the film was getting outgrossed by Venom 2 and that it wouldn't cross the 500 million mark world-wide.
And funnily Captain Marvel supposedly outsold Tickets-wise both Aquaman and Wonder Woman, and yet it failed to out-gross Aquaman