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Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter
Holy fuck - I'm not sure if I should applaud them or laugh, that's like the whole reason to have a live service shooter and where all of the Apex/Fortnite money comes in from.
You can buy skins, but this game is less monetized than tarkov. No boosts, no items, no vault space, no gear, no guns, etc etc.
AAA games at what... 80 USD now? They sold Marathon for 40 originally and now its down to 25? It's not just the low player count that fucked this game.
Emphasis mine. Fortnite, when it caught lightning in a bottle, likely had nowhere near the budget - any estimates I can find are in the $50M-$100M range, which while still a shocking amount of money is nowhere near what Sony has burned chasing the dragon on ONE of these failures. Sure, ongoing development has likely pushed the budget well beyond that, but when you have a license to print money like Fortnite had at its peak, who gives a shit.
ESPECIALLY when you remember the BR that made them big was essentially a throwaway game mode they made to keep people busy while they worked on "Save The World", likely only made because PUBG was the big thing at the time if I remember right. There's no amount of money you can throw at this without that kind of once in a generation level of dumb fucking luck.
And it's also worth mentioning that these things aren't just completely random rolls; they occupy the board for any future rolls, too. You cannot get fortnite's money without taking fortnite's position, and that's a monstrously high bar to clear.
They already set this up
Destiny 1's big bad was vaguely the force called "The Darkness" and then they made it into a crazy alien guy using it in Destiny 2 with a character named "The Witness" who used the power of The Darkness (and was masquerading as a personification of The Darkness itself in Destiny 1) to try to cause the heat death of the universe, who got killed super ultra dead by the player character and other protagonists
But now there's this bigger badder guy called "The Winnower" that created The Darkness in the first place (or maybe even just is The Darkness)
The Winnower was known about in the game's lore before The Witness even was concepted as part of the story, but it was intentionally ambiguous as to whether The Winnower even existed, or if the idea of him was just a loose concept to explain and personify The Darkness; but they immediately established him as an existent and definitely real thing in a lore sidenote shortly after killing off The Witness
The story has also teased leaving the solar system and going to other places like the homeworlds of the enemy alien factions, but since Bungie can't just copy-paste existing assets to make those it hasn't happened
I think Destiny 3 is probably still Bungie/Sony's best play to salvage Bungie as a studio, but I'm doubtful that they have the talent, competency, or humility to do that instead of tripling and quadrupling down on Concord 3 Marathon
Shutting down the studio for a 4 billion tax write-off is probably the most logistically sound play though lol
The best thing they can do to the destiny franchise if they somehow want to keep it:
Reboot D1 with the cut content, the cut content alone and the lore is enough to keep it going for 3 games, the 2013 Destiny cut was basically Halo+Mass effect+Fallout
Make it a primarily co-op single player game with a bonus post launch MMO scene
Add no man's sky spacecraft combat, either as a multiplayer level or as a interactive load zone between planets
Once you beat the SP, make the MMO part the post-campaign content to raid loot in planets and combat weekly updated bosses in the dungeons or some other shit to keep players interested
No one wants reboots or remasters of the Destiny 1/2 content. Bungie should've done an out of Solar system story arc revolving around, lets say, Torobatl (Cabal's homeworld) which would finish both Caiatl's and Xivu Arath's (the Hive Goddess of War) storylines. The Dreadnaught from Heresy episode could've been used to transport us there which was literally the last content before new saga. While they were doing this they could've released smaller content focusing on community favorites like Black Armory, SIVA, Wrath of the Machine etc. like we are going back to them to prepare new weapons for us and Cabal allies to fight the war against the Hive.
The new saga is not completely shit but revolves around entities having roman numerals instead of names (which is lame) and being so monumentally big (they are tied to planets in the Solar system) but they are not Eldritch enough to be interesting.
imagine being invited to work at a sinking ship, that must feel fucking A all things considered, going from not having a job to having a job at a dying company is good on it's own...
Ive been there before, it was kind of fun. Was like watching the fall of Rome on a corporate level, no one had any real time to reprimand or punish you because it was all fucked and every one was just going through the motions.
my kiwibrother, Bungie is dead. every remaining trace of talent in that studio was scattered to the winds over a decade ago. they are nothing more than a walking corpse, a corporate slop assembly line. they are incapable of producing anything worthy of notice. this downward spiral is an inevitable result of the personnel massacre forced on them by Activision; by the release of the original Destiny, they were doomed to be nothing more than a publisher subsidiary, producing and maintaining mediocre live service games as they are bought and sold and traded and auctioned until eventually somebody closes them down. 10, 15, 20 years from now, everyone will be reading the headlines, shaking their heads, saying, "Damn, what happened to Bungie? They used to be so good." this is what happened to Bungie. we're living through it right now. let your good memories of them live in the past.
my kiwibrother, Bungie is dead. every remaining trace of talent in that studio was scattered to the winds over a decade ago. they are nothing more than a walking corpse, a corporate slop assembly line. they are incapable of producing anything worthy of notice. this downward spiral is an inevitable result of the personnel massacre forced on them by Activision; by the release of the original Destiny, they were doomed to be nothing more than a publisher subsidiary, producing and maintaining mediocre live service games as they are bought and sold and traded and auctioned until eventually somebody closes them down. 10, 15, 20 years from now, everyone will be reading the headlines, shaking their heads, saying, "Damn, what happened to Bungie? They used to be so good." this is what happened to Bungie. we're living through it right now. let your good memories of them live in the past.
nigger enough slander against my nigga Bobby Jewtick, Activison was NEVER the problem with the Destiny franchise, in fact, they gave bungie a lot leeway, money, and support studios to fix BUNGIES fuck ups. The reason Destiny had a negative launch was A. Jason Jones is a retarded faggot and didn’t like the story Joe Staten wrote so they had to rewrite the game in under a year and B. No one knew what Destiny really was, console players werent familiar with a game like it, other than maybe borderlands but that was single player. People hated it because they didn’t understand it until the first raid launched, then it clicked, and here we are 12 years later.
nigger enough slander against my nigga Bobby Jewtick, Activison was NEVER the problem with the Destiny franchise, in fact, they gave bungie a lot leeway, money, and support studios to fix BUNGIES fuck ups. The reason Destiny had a negative launch was A. Jason Jones is a retarded faggot and didn’t like the story Joe Staten wrote so they had to rewrite the game in under a year and B. No one knew what Destiny really was, console players werent familiar with a game like it, other than maybe borderlands but that was single player. People hated it because they didn’t understand it until the first raid launched, then it clicked, and here we are 12 years later.
nigger enough slander against my nigga Bobby Jewtick, Activison was NEVER the problem with the Destiny franchise, in fact, they gave bungie a lot leeway, money, and support studios to fix BUNGIES fuck ups. The reason Destiny had a negative launch was A. Jason Jones is a retarded faggot and didn’t like the story Joe Staten wrote so they had to rewrite the game in under a year and B. No one knew what Destiny really was, console players werent familiar with a game like it, other than maybe borderlands but that was single player. People hated it because they didn’t understand it until the first raid launched, then it clicked, and here we are 12 years later.
And it's also worth mentioning that these things aren't just completely random rolls; they occupy the board for any future rolls, too. You cannot get fortnite's money without taking fortnite's position, and that's a monstrously high bar to clear.
AKA The MMO problem. You're not just trying to sell people on your new live service, you're trying to convince them it's worth abandoning their current live service that's rich with years of content (unless it's Destiny 2 lol) and into which they've poured hundreds of hours to build up their character/account.
History repeats itself, even now Bungiefags are blaming Sony, just like they blamed Activision and Microsoft, for what's entirely Bungie's fault. You'd think pattern recognition would kick in by the third time, but it seems their brain activity just flatlined.
History repeats itself, even now Bungiefags are blaming Sony, just like they blamed Activision and Microsoft, for what's entirely Bungie's fault. You'd think pattern recognition would kick in by the third time, but it seems their brain activity just flatlined.
Oh God, I can see it too; "No, Durandal's totally trans-coded (lul)--his desire to escape the closure of the universe and become God of a new one was always a metapfhor (lulx2) for escaping hetero-normativity and embracing their true selves, which his conservative brother Tycho reacted to by joining a radical far-right group and trying to kill him! Bungie are geniuses, I tell you!!"
Today I had the largest dose of second hand cringe. Apparently the Merch store is linked to your actual achievements? I'm just not ready for this kind of marketing.
