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Equipment Voltronbros will this make us finally not shit in current year commander environment?
Thran Powersuit should have made Voltron decks not suck in current commander. Don’t know if twice as expensive and no protection gets you there, but the card draw is probably the highlight here. 4 mana draw probably 5+ cards is pretty good.
 
With the full set spoilered, I can now say... it's gonna be a trainwreck.

There are 286 unique non-basic cards in the set, which are currently listed poorly on Scryfall (it's double-counting alt-arts, suggesting 450 cards). There are 170 creatures. Of them, only 42 are not legendary. So that means a bit under 15% of the cards in the set are non-legendary creatures, the bread-and-butter. It's the lowest we've ever seen for one of these large UB sets, and it's going to cause immediate problems in the draft. There's an absolutely enormous number of do-nothing legendaries, on the level of Dominaria United, where you've got a gigantic text-box that doesn't actually integrate with any of the supposed archetypes or strategies. To wit, if I didn't actually look up the archetypes list they seeded, I wouldn't have been able to guess this shit.

For example, the RW archetype is supposedly 'noncreature spells.' When I look at the RW cards in the set, Thor Odinson loosely supports this by having double-prowess (too expensive for a do-nothing card tbh). Otherwise, there's one RW rare that supports the theme. Compared to Avatar, we had two uncommons and a common that all supported its RW archetype of 'go wide.'

FF had several signpost uncommons that didn't support their native themes: Giott supports RW equipment, but Zidane is just randomly powerful. But the trick was that it seeded the different colors together: UW cared about artifacts, which RW made; BW wanted to sacrifice things, and the equipment produced 2 permanents; and so only GW's go-wide didn't play with the W. UR and BR both cared about noncreature spells, which the equipments were, and so only GR's landfall theme didn't play with the theme.

By contrast in marvel, RW is noncreature spells. UR is 'artifacts.' There are 17 noncreature artifacts in the set, and if we exclude the rares and non-R ones, there are four cards in the entire set that straddle these archetypes. WB cares about attacking alone, which directly contracts GW and BR, doesn't interface with GB or UB, and might sometimes-maybe interact with RW or UW. It's a mess. Half of these archetypes aren't going to fire, and there's going to be 2-3, maybe, that actually work. And all of the drafts will then revolve around this small handful. Unlike Avatar, where the 'unpopular' strategies could kick ass if you got them uncontested (GB, WB, RB), I think if you get stuck with WB exalted you're SOL.
 
Unlike Avatar, where the 'unpopular' strategies could kick ass if you got them uncontested (GB, WB, RB), I think if you get stuck with WB exalted you're SOL.
Avatar was shockingly robust in terms of your options. I remember on prerelease night I had a box of nothing but bombs all in the same colors, it was pure heat. But I still went to game 3 with several cheap Lesson control lists and even a guy just playing good ol' honest monoG stompy.
 
doubleposting because epic but

My LGS barely has enough presales for Marvel's prerelease to fire. It doesn't really seem like a 'people cutting back' thing, because it was a packed house tonight and almost every single person who said they weren't going to draft Marvel... said they'd draft just about anything else.

This set is gonna be a nuclear bomb on the level of Spider-shit, calling it early.
 
doubleposting because epic but

My LGS barely has enough presales for Marvel's prerelease to fire. It doesn't really seem like a 'people cutting back' thing, because it was a packed house tonight and almost every single person who said they weren't going to draft Marvel... said they'd draft just about anything else.

This set is gonna be a nuclear bomb on the level of Spider-shit, calling it early.
Maro will still say it's a best selling set until next set is released.
 
Oh if this goes bad, he's going to take it personal.

Clipped from one of his latest podcasts.
maro loves marvel.mp3
To save everyone 2 minutes of MaRo's grating voice, he is a big fan of comics and his immediate reaction to the initial pitch for UB was "dibs on Marvel".

If he is not lying about any of this it means his longstanding objectjon to sets based on other IPs went out the window the second he realized he could use them for his pet idea.
 
If he is not lying about any of this it means his longstanding objectjon to sets based on other IPs went out the window the second he realized he could use them for his pet idea.
Who would've guessed the same man who pushed the most broken mechanic ever created through the door after years of being told "no" has no restraint or self-control.
 
To save everyone 2 minutes of MaRo's grating voice, he is a big fan of comics and his immediate reaction to the initial pitch for UB was "dibs on Marvel".

If he is not lying about any of this it means his longstanding objectjon to sets based on other IPs went out the window the second he realized he could use them for his pet idea.
This must have fucking made him salty as fuck then.


Edit : Note I do not endorse SaffronOlive's opinion here and I actually think it is kind of retarded as fuck.
 
Hero's Downfall
This must have fucking made him salty as fuck then.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dXHNOn3l2Sw
Edit : Note I do not endorse SaffronOlive's opinion here and I actually think it is kind of retarded as fuck.
I think acknowledgement of audience participation is important to any successful creative endeavor based on an IP. Final fantasy was successful because you could tell the people who made it understood the english fans of FF and the communities surrounding them. You only need to look at the card "Suplex" to understand that. It's a silly joke that the people who owned the IP didn't understand, but the fans loved. Mechanically it wasn't a good draft set, but you bought it because it had a bunch of characters you liked represented correctly.
I don't think the people who made Spiderman and Marvel like or care about comic books. I don't think they like TMNT. I think they grew up with Avatar, and love it. I'm looking forward to Star Trek because EoE showed the desire of creative to portray a space Opera.
 
There are a lot of normie consoomers at my LGS who were super excited about Marvel, but I think the excitement for them has become tepid "Meh's" after the reveals. There are a few bomb cards people are interested in but most of the set hasn't even been worth commenting on when usually upwards of half of a set is usually discussed about for things to use it for, w ith a lot of the rest just getting "Meh's" when someone tries to discuss them.

FF STILL has excitement in the LGS with a few people here and there still trying to master collect and do theme decks around it, but there's been zero such lingering excitement from the other UB's to match. I use a few of the Avatar cards but that is generally because a vast amount of that set were just Foundation cards with a +1 added to the stats or an extra effect. The actual IP/art fo rmost of them is meh and I have just proxied the base foundation card art over them.

I think the largest key difference with the UB sets is they all lack FUN.
Stuff like Zenos, not a great card in itself. But it's fun. Saga summon creatures were fun to play with, etc
 
In my local shop all spots for Strixhaven were taken one week before the prerelease date. The Marvel set barely reached 40%. I think this set is the equivalent of a school teacher in 2019 including ragecomics memes in their PowerPoint presentation.
 
My go-to store's Secrets of Strixhaven prerelease preorders oversold hard enough that the building was at fire code capacity. Their Marvel prerelease preorders are so low the owner is confidently running a double-header Modern RCQ the same day.

There is a single card I'm looking at that might be cool as a 1-of in Tron to wish out of the sideboard with Karn The Great Creator, but it's 8 mana to not do anything immediately without other crap on the table, e.g. Ugin Eye of the Storms. I guess an upside is that animating it with Karn makes me an 8/8 for a blocker in a pinch.

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But my card assessment can be shit, I thought The One Ring would be a 1-of sideboard card in Tron at best.
 
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There is a single card I'm looking at that might be cool as a 1-of in Tron to wish out of the sideboard with Karn The Great Creator, but it's 8 mana to not do anything immediately without other crap on the table, e.g. Ugin Eye of the Storms. I guess an upside is that animating it with Karn makes me an 8/8 for a blocker in a pinch.
I could see this being a one of Karnboard target in Modern Tron since they don't have access to the one ring and it is a deck that has a shit ton of mana but not very much in terms of draw.
 
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