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Evan Kor dijo:
Since Starlink and Leo now exist, I was wondering how Null and others would feel if immigration was stopped but jobs were done via teleoperation using robots. The tech already exists and its far easier than importing millions of laborers. No one is talking about this labor issue. I made a pic to explain this point.
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So this I just don't understand. I work as a machine operator in the steel industry. The jobs that I directly interface with cannot be replaced with robots 10,000 miles away. We have to know how to turn wrenches, dress blades, lay cable, troubleshoot (over the phone thanks guys), and be able to adapt bad parts into new life (a 3/8 adapter into a 1/2 adapter). If you have a physical, on site job (what a fucking travesty, what a war crime, what a goddamned sin) you will never be replaced with a jeet over the phone.
I will absolutely say "yes PLC technology is a dying breed like COBOL and Fortran. Yes the people who know PLC and COBOL should be paid a <u>lot</u> of fucking money." But that job will never be taken "overseas" because most of the shit that uses these old codes aren't ever connected to the Internet, and if they are connected to an internet, they are not exposed to the broader Microsoft Internet. Exposed just willynilly for any old upgrade that could break the system. Guess what, when Windows updates a random bit of information? Breaks a process 12 years going strong. you need that completely isolated from any thing and anyone.
Who fixes a flat tire? Who fixes a broken pipe? Who fixes a building that caught fire? Who fixes the mess when a stupid fucking coworker stacks shit too high and the metal tilts over, breaks the pallets they were on, punches through a wall, and has 26,000 pounds at a 45 degree angle?
Not robots. Not Jeets. Humans and gas power.
 
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gampboonerisms dijo:
So this I just don't understand.
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While that is true for now, a lot of jobs can be done by teleoperated robots controlled from the other side of the world since the Low Earth Orbit satellites have low latency. The tech already exists and its only a matter of time before someone decides that an Indian or Pakistani man controlling a robot for $1.25/h can do some basic and/or dangerous jobs. Janitorial work, construction, road repair, lawn mowing, and unskilled industrial labor could easily be done remotely. As force-feedback, better sensors, and other improvements are developed, more specialized tasks can be done by remotely operated robots. Also, you have the HR advantage that all work is recorded.

The main things stopping this tech from being implemented are issues with legal liability(imagine if Rashesh Singh decides to punch someone) and information security issues like ITAR. However, these things can eventually be solved. Paying an Indian a dollar an hour is a great deal even if his remote work is only 1/3 as efficient as that of a physically-present worker. He also can't get injured on the job, physically sexually harass anyone(or be a victim of it), steal anything other than maybe data, or unionize.

As for why this would happen, there's a simple explanation: energy prices. Energy is cheap in America but relatively expensive everywhere else which is why you don't see the 3rd world industrializing as well. However, labor is expensive here and so are regulations protecting people from injuries and abuses. Cheap labor + cheap energy are very appealing and making a job site that's off limits to physical human presence washes away labor regulations.
 
gampboonerisms dijo:
The suits would never buy into teleoperation! They understand how complex and nuanced our jobs are!
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Don't let the peckerheads and the pencilnecks see how far it's come bro.


Fuck my ass 'til it's 3 1/2 NPT; the moment they realize they no longer have to provide workers comp, lunch breaks, PPE, and can digitally track every time you virtually scratch your ass? They will dive into these bots head first at hypersonic speed.
 
Evan Kor dijo:
While that is true for now, a lot of jobs can be done by teleoperated robots controlled from the other side of the world since the Low Earth Orbit satellites have low latency. The tech already exists and its only a matter of time before someone decides that an Indian or Pakistani man controlling a robot for $1.25/h can do some basic and/or dangerous jobs. Janitorial work, construction, road repair, lawn mowing, and unskilled industrial labor could easily be done remotely. As force-feedback, better sensors, and other improvements are developed, more specialized tasks can be done by remotely operated robots. Also, you have the HR advantage that all work is recorded.

The main things stopping this tech from being implemented are issues with legal liability(imagine if Rashesh Singh decides to punch someone) and information security issues like ITAR. However, these things can eventually be solved. Paying an Indian a dollar an hour is a great deal even if his remote work is only 1/3 as efficient as that of a physically-present worker. He also can't get injured on the job, physically sexually harass anyone(or be a victim of it), steal anything other than maybe data, or unionize.

As for why this would happen, there's a simple explanation: energy prices. Energy is cheap in America but relatively expensive everywhere else which is why you don't see the 3rd world industrializing as well. However, labor is expensive here and so are regulations protecting people from injuries and abuses. Cheap labor + cheap energy are very appealing and making a job site that's off limits to physical human presence washes away labor regulations.
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simple answer:
if you are not on site
you will not fix machine
robots will not take this away.
filters cannot be changed by robots. rebuilding roll assemblies cannot be done by robots. fixing a pinion rack and gear cannot be done without humans. fixing the stencil wheel, driving the shaft out and driving anew shaft in cannot be done without humans.
Especially with companies that DONT want to have parts on the shelf.
My company (not pictured) doesn't want to keep fucking motors on the shelf. What happen? motor BLOWS THE FUCK UP. and we're down for 1.5 days taking the motor out, down for 1.5 days trying to figure out how to bypass it. down for 1 day getting in touch with BigBoyfriendDaddy company and they tell us "oh yeah, we'll help when you cut a PO" and they say 'yeah there's a bit at the beginning of the code that has to be bypassed.

Seriously, do anything with your hands. Do cashiering (i know that a long shot, but customer service is going to go a long way in the next few years.). Do yard work. do "picking up the drive train that fell out of the the truck in the middle of the bridge" tow truck work. Do forklift, holy shit do forklift you'll get into the door for so many more places. do what every this fucking guy does to load box cars between transfer trucks and raillines.




you don't break bolts with 6 inches of clearance 10k miles away. Americans have been lied to and they need to start understanding that woodshop was not something to just get rid of. any person that can use their hands, need to because you will be the only ones left to do so.
 
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This showed up in my feed but Why do tranny rooms all look the same?
 
i swear there was a recent stream wherein null talked briefly about the christchurch shit and how the gov’ment actually used the archived stream for training or something? nobody posts timestamps anymore so i’m having trouble finding it. if anyone knows what i’m talking about help would be greatly appreciated
 
geocities dijo:
i swear there was a recent stream wherein null talked briefly about the christchurch shit and how the gov’ment actually used the archived stream for training or something? nobody posts timestamps anymore so i’m having trouble finding it. if anyone knows what i’m talking about help would be greatly appreciated
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I know what you're talking about. He was unhappy about the attempts to erase that video. So my guess is that it would've been his stream right after a shooting. Probably the one with those 2 kids that shot up that Islamic center. I checked 2 videos and couldn't find it.
 
Evan Kor dijo:
While that is true for now, a lot of jobs can be done by teleoperated robots controlled from the other side of the world since the Low Earth Orbit satellites have low latency. The tech already exists and its only a matter of time before someone decides that an Indian or Pakistani man controlling a robot for $1.25/h can do some basic and/or dangerous jobs. Janitorial work, construction, road repair, lawn mowing, and unskilled industrial labor could easily be done remotely. As force-feedback, better sensors, and other improvements are developed, more specialized tasks can be done by remotely operated robots. Also, you have the HR advantage that all work is recorded.

The main things stopping this tech from being implemented are issues with legal liability(imagine if Rashesh Singh decides to punch someone) and information security issues like ITAR. However, these things can eventually be solved. Paying an Indian a dollar an hour is a great deal even if his remote work is only 1/3 as efficient as that of a physically-present worker. He also can't get injured on the job, physically sexually harass anyone(or be a victim of it), steal anything other than maybe data, or unionize.

As for why this would happen, there's a simple explanation: energy prices. Energy is cheap in America but relatively expensive everywhere else which is why you don't see the 3rd world industrializing as well. However, labor is expensive here and so are regulations protecting people from injuries and abuses. Cheap labor + cheap energy are very appealing and making a job site that's off limits to physical human presence washes away labor regulations.
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Why not just put the whole factory in the third-world shithole? That way you also avoid environmental regulations.

And the answer to that is obvious (if you're a racist schizo like me); the inhabitants of the third-world shitholes are not able to operate a plant safely (Bhopal being the most visible example, or any number of spot checks by the FDA), letting them do it remotely only makes it worse.
 
Hannibalistique dijo:
And the answer to that is obvious
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Additionally, having the components of your system run locally by locals puts everyone on more of an even footing with each other, means less underhanded-ness, and distrust.
Also means when things do go wrong, it can be addressed more openly without having to worry as much about collectivist dynamics like izzat or whatever equivalent another third world shithole might have.
 
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST.


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Hannibalistique dijo:
Why not just put the whole factory in the third-world shithole? That way you also avoid environmental regulations.
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Energy prices, insurance, and theft. Electricity and natural gas are very expensive in those places. Also, due to PPP(not that one), materials that are easily traded on the international market like metals would be stolen since they'd be worth many times more to the locals. A pound of copper in Liberia is far more expensive to a Liberian than to an American.
 

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Enjoy application-less, multi modal omni box ai powered five eyes hell internet talker child this is why your Microsoft centric life is already over.
 
Point 707 dijo:
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST.


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There's so many attack vectors for this. The CAN bus is likely encrypted, but if there's an unencrypted data stream inside the module, or rip out the CCD and emulate it, or worst case take the thing and shove it in a box with some lenses and a small LCD/OLED. Then just inject/play a loop of a perfect driver.

They'll probably make it 50 years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison though.
 
DavidS877 dijo:
There's so many attack vectors for this. The CAN bus is likely encrypted, but if there's an unencrypted data stream inside the module, or rip out the CCD and emulate it, or worst case take the thing and shove it in a box with some lenses and a small LCD/OLED. Then just inject/play a loop of a perfect driver.

They'll probably make it 50 years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison though.
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A guy faked out the tesla one by putting an action figure head right in front of the camera.
 
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