Lucifer: The Fallen Angel

[Divine Power]

in Christian theology, Lucifer was the most beautiful, intelligent, and powerful of all the angels. He held a position of honor and was perfect in every way. But this perfection was his undoing. Filled with pride, he sought to be equal to God. it was a full-scale rebellion. He convinced a third of the angels to follow him in his revolt. The result was a celestial war, and Lucifer, along with his followers, was cast out of Heaven. His name, which means "light-bringer" or "morning star" became a bitter irony, as he was forever condemned to darkness.

But the rebellion was ultimately doomed. Lucifer and his followers were cast out of the heavens. He who was once the light-bringer became the darkness-bearer. As he fell, his celestial form twisted and corrupted. His scales, once brilliant, became a dull, fiery red, and his once-musical roar became a shriek of rage and despair. He crashed into the earth, his fall creating a chasm known as the abyss. He was no longer a celestial dragon but a hellish beast, the great serpent of chaos and temptation.

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Isaiah 14:12-14

"You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering... You were the anointed cherub that covers, and I placed you there; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you." Ezekiel 28:12-15

"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:7-9

The ensuing war was a cataclysm of cosmic proportions. Light dragons clashed with the forces of the Creator. The skies were a battlefield of fire and shadow, a tempest of burning scales and broken stars. Lucifer, the greatest of them all, was a whirlwind of destruction, his fire scorching the very fabric of creation.

 

[Harm]

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Isaiah 14:12-14

This is a poem about a Babylonian king. It's mockingly calling him Lucifer as in the Light-bringer or the Morning Star, aka Venus. It's sarcasm about a man, not a reference to some fallen angel.

"You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering... You were the anointed cherub that covers, and I placed you there; you were on the holy mountain of God; you walked among the fiery stones. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, till iniquity was found in you." Ezekiel 28:12-15

This is a lament about the King of Tyre, which was a Phoenician city-state. It's a metaphor about Tyre's former prosperity, and not a reference to some fallen angel.

 

[Divine Power]

This is a poem about a Babylonian king. It's mockingly calling him Lucifer as in the Light-bringer or the Morning Star, aka Venus. It's sarcasm about a man, not a reference to some fallen angel.

Early Christian theologians saw the king's pride and fall as a powerful allegory for Satan's own rebellion against God. The imagery of a "shining one" who tried to "ascend above the stars" and "be like the Most High" perfectly fit their developing narrative of Satan's origin.

People like you are an embarrassment to the religion and its rich intellectual tradition.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

Early Christian theologians saw the king's pride and fall as a powerful allegory for Satan's own rebellion against God. The imagery of a "shining one" who tried to "ascend above the stars" and "be like the Most High" perfectly fit their developing narrative of Satan's origin.

People like you are an embarrassment to the religion and its rich intellectual tradition.

My brothers let us not quarrel, join with me in a game of Bible hangman

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[R00T]

Early Christian theologians saw the king's pride and fall as a powerful allegory for Satan's own rebellion against God. The imagery of a "shining one" who tried to "ascend above the stars" and "be like the Most High" perfectly fit their developing narrative of Satan's origin.

People like you are an embarrassment to the religion and its rich intellectual tradition.

It’s part of a collection of texts that make up the Nevi’im, still read in shul to this day as the Haftarah at the end of services. It’s Jewish. @Harm is correct in the interpretation. What you are accusing him of being uneducated about is a reinterpretation by Christian theologians; something that was done to countless works over the centuries in an effort to make Christianity more appealing to those being converted. In its original form the text is prophetic revelation to the defeat of Judah’s enemies and restoration of Israel.

People like you are an embarrassment to the religion and its tradition.

 

[9 IRON TO THE BALLS]

lucifer is a lolcow

 

[R00T]

lucifer is a lolcow

The equivalent of Magi-Chan attempting to overthrow CWC.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Lucifer is a faggot.

 

[Nicholas Gur]

Jealous older brother ah angel.

 

[Rango Dango]

i thought it was gonna be about the shitty white woman tv show

 

[Harm]

What you are accusing him of being uneducated about is a reinterpretation by Christian theologians

Which, mind you, I'm wholly aware of what those Christian theologians believed about those verses. The sad reality is they essentially... made shit up about Jewish theology which they didn't understand!

 

[Divine Power]

It’s part of a collection of texts that make up the Nevi’im, still read in shul to this day as the Haftarah at the end of services. It’s Jewish. @Harm is correct in the interpretation. What you are accusing him of being uneducated about is a reinterpretation by Christian theologians; something that was done to countless works over the centuries in an effort to make Christianity more appealing to those being converted. In its original form the text is prophetic revelation to the defeat of Judah’s enemies and restoration of Israel.

People like you are an embarrassment to the religion and its tradition.

Which, mind you, I'm wholly aware of what those Christian theologians believed about those verses. The sad reality is they essentially... made shit up about Jewish theology which they didn't understand!

Both of you are likely Jews, your ideas are completely dismissed. It's clear that you both lack the intellectual capacity to contribute meaningful thoughts.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

I think Lucifer is a pretty cool guy, eh kills souls and doesn't afraid of anything.

 

[Harm]

Both of you are likely Jews, your ideas are completely dismissed. It's clear that you both lack the intellectual capacity to contribute meaningful thoughts.

Imagine you wrote a poem today, as a Christian, about Elon Musk. Fast forward 500-1000 years, and some dude takes it, sees you metaphorically referring to him as Megatron in it one time, and decides to invent a whole new Christian character named Megatron.

Wouldn't that be a bit silly?

By the way, you know who else was a practicing devout Jew? Jesus of Nazareth. Are you going to completely dismiss his ideas too, or are you going to base your whole worldview upon millennia of interpretations about his supposed ideas? It wasn't even him who expanded his theological teachings to the goyim, but Paul, a man who never met him. Funny how that works.

 

[Divine Power]

Imagine you wrote a poem today, as a Christian, about Elon Musk. Fast forward 500-1000 years, and some dude takes it, sees you metaphorically referring to him as Megatron in it one time, and decides to invent a whole new Christian character named Megatron.

Wouldn't that be a bit silly?

By the way, you know who else was a practicing devout Jew? Jesus of Nazareth. Are you going to completely dismiss his ideas too, or are you going to base your whole worldview upon millennia of interpretations about his supposed ideas? It wasn't even him who expanded his theological teachings to the goyim, but Paul, a man who never met him. Funny how that works.

Jew, That's it, also you are not a Christian, why would I argue with you?

 

[Harm]

Jew, That's it.

Who do you think Jesus was preaching to? What were his apostles if not Jewish?

If John the Baptist were brought back, would you really hiss out "JEW!" at him and ignore him?

 

[Divine Power]

Who do you think Jesus was preaching to? What were his apostles if not Jewish?

You don't even believe in Jesus as a Jew, so why do you care?

 

[Harm]

You don't even believe in Jesus as a Jew, so why do you care?

Jesus was a fantastic Jew even if he wasn't literally God Himself as suggested by the Nicene Creed. He came to fulfill Torah, after all, not shitcan it so goyim could write fanfiction and invent brand new characters named Lucifer because they didn't understand a poem.

 

[Divine Power]

Jesus was a fantastic Jew even if he wasn't literally God Himself as suggested by the Nicene Creed. He came to fulfill Torah, after all, not shitcan it so goyim could write fanfiction and invent brand new characters named Lucifer because they didn't understand a poem.

Jesus was not one of the Jews, Jesus said to the Jews "You are guilty of the death of righteous Abel because Jesus said to the Jews "You are guilty of the death of righteous Abel because your father Cain murdered him." It is also well for you to note here that Jesus further blames these Jews for all the deaths of righteous people from the beginning of time right down to this day,

In the end times he will not serve your nation because you are a bunch of liars and kikes

`Ye are of a father - the devil, and the desires of your father ye will to do; he was a man-slayer from the beginning, and in the truth he hath not stood, because there is no truth in him; when one may speak the falsehood, of his own he speaketh, because he is a liar - also his father. John 8:44

He said to them in reply, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? Matthew 15:3

“’These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Matthew 15:8

 

[Scout Trooper]

Jesus was a fantastic Jew even if he wasn't literally God Himself as suggested by the Nicene Creed. He came to fulfill Torah, after all, not shitcan it so goyim could write fanfiction and invent brand new characters named Lucifer because they didn't understand a poem.

Okay okay but hear me out. Jesus went to Egypt to fulfill the prophecy I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.
Obviously this makes him the son of God, right?

11 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.

2 As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.

3 I taught Ephraim also to go, taking them by their arms; but they knew not that I healed them.

4 I drew them with cords of a man, with bands of love: and I was to them as they that take off the yoke on their jaws, and I laid meat unto them.

Oh... eisegesis bros, I don't feel so good...