Business Leaked guidelines reveal more details about Amazon's controversial 'voluntary resignation' program for remote workers - Amazon is forcing employees to relocate to central "hub" offices.

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Leaked guidelines reveal more details about Amazon's controversial 'voluntary resignation' program for remote workers​

Eugene Kim
Jul 28, 2023, 2:00 AM PDT

  • Amazon shared an internal guideline for some managers to use when discussing the new RTO policy.
  • Amazon is forcing employees to relocate to central "hub" offices.
  • Those who refuse to relocate can be considered a "voluntary resignation" under the new policy.
Amazon recently rolled out a so-called "return-to-hub" policy that forces employees to work out of centrally assigned office locations, called hubs.

Those going into an office nearest to their current city now have to relocate, seek a team change or special approval to stay put — otherwise, they have to leave under a "voluntary resignation" program, as Insider first reported.

Insider obtained an internal guide that Amazon shared this week with some managers to help them discuss the policy with staff. The 10-page document, prepared for a specific group within the company, sheds more light on this campaign and how it could play out in coming months.

This "Employee Conversation" guideline suggests that Amazon expects its new return-to-office policy to face initial resistance from employees. It also reveals how the company wants to communicate the sudden change.

"It is important to note that we do not necessarily expect the employee to make a decision in the initial conversation with you," the document states.

In an email to Insider, Amazon's spokesperson, Brad Glasser, said there's "more energy, collaboration, and connections happening since we've been working together at least three days per week."

"We continue to look at the best ways to bring more teams together in the same locations, and we'll communicate directly with employees as we make decisions that affect them," he added.

Here are some of the key points from the guidelines:

  • Those deemed to have voluntarily resigned will get no severance.
  • Employees who get approval to stay in their current location will still have to come into an office 3 times a week. That could apply even if the rest of the employee's team is in other cities.
  • Amazon managers should have "empathy and positive intent" when having these difficult conversations with their staff.
The goal of the new hub policy is to encourage more in-person work. After Amazon rolled out a 3-times a week office attendance policy in February, many employees questioned its effectiveness because in many cases their team members still worked in other locations. It was particularly confusing for those hired as virtual or who moved to remote locations during the pandemic. Just last year, Amazon said it didn't plan on forcing people back to the office, while it would continue "experimenting, learning, and adjusting for a while."

Three options​

According to the internal guidelines, those unwilling to relocate near the hubs get three options. These apply to US-based employees, and those outside the country will have to follow local rules and timelines, it said.

First, they can get a special "co-location exception" approved by a director and HR partner. Those approved will still need to come into the office 3 times a week, regardless of where the rest of the team is.

Secondly, they can find a new team within 60 days that accommodates their needs. Some employees in good standing may get up to 6 months to find a new team.

The final option is to leave the company without severance. "This will be considered voluntary resignation," the document stated. "If they are not interested in relocating, the alternative is to leave the company."

Special exceptions​

On a case-by-case basis, Amazon will give a "Remote Work Exception" that doesn't require an employee to come into the office at least 3 times a week, according to the guideline for managers.

It also has a "Field by Design" role for jobs that require visits to customer locations or other Amazon buildings a minimum of three times a week.

Jobs that can be done remotely, like customer service or ad sales, can be assigned "Remote by Design," and won't need to come into the office as much.

All three designations require approval from Amazon's S-team, a group of just over two dozen top executives. Amazon has about 300,000 corporate employees.

'Be prepared'​

Perhaps in anticipation of sharp resistance from employees, the guidelines provide Amazon managers with several talking points and best-practice examples to follow.

It says managers should "lead with empathy and positive intent" throughout the employee conversation. They should also "be prepared" to explain the team's strategy and share options for the employee if they are "not aligned with the approved locations."

Managers should also "practice what you want to say ahead of time" and "be direct and clear, and also empathetic and compassionate."

If the employee threatens legal action, managers must notify HR and legal teams.

"Remember, the employee may be surprised by the proposed location, so it is normal to have to repeat information," the document advises.

Q&A templates​

The guidelines come with 15 potential Q&A templates.

One of the questions is how to respond if an employee keeps asking why they need to relocate. The suggested answer is: "We are working to bring our teams together in the office and feel that this is the best location to support your ongoing growth and development, and the ability to deliver for our customers. These decisions are not taken lightly and we don't underestimate how much they might affect those who will need to re-locate."

It also tells managers to keep individual employee situations confidential. If an employee asks why someone else may have a remote work exemption, managers are to say "personal circumstances are confidential."

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Jeff never cared about his workers, warehouses operate on Orwellian carding system and detects if a employee dares to leave the warehouse for any reason, pay is docked no matter the reason and they're fired on the spot if the manager feels like it. It's not surprising that they extend this practice to their remote work peons.

At this rate Jeff will replace majority of his staff with AI driven forklifts, returns sorting robots to parcel delivery drones, like prototypes by courier UPS.

Amazon has ethics of average Chinese companies like Wish for example.
 
Those saying this doesn’t happen in Europe - it does, I’ve seen more than one company do similar. The usual thing is when two companies merge and they have two offices in a country. They close one, and the only option is report to the remaining office or you’ve deemed to have resigned
I didn’t think this was legal, but I have seen it done and as far I know no one got any severance from one.
The second they did but they had to fight for it. My last company did this and fired all the overlapping people in our office when they merged with a competitor. I escaped for some reason, but about a dozen people were marched out of the building. They all took it to tribunal and all won, and I think they got about a years salary each to keep quiet about it. BUT it took them over a year to get that and it was very stressful for them. A lot of people don’t want that stress.
I should have known then it would be a shit place to work, and it was
I don’t see how Amazon can get away with this. Potting a condition on the job that an employee cannot meet them firing them is out of order
 
My sympathy depends on where in Amazon they are. If it's AWS folk then that sucks, also it's retarded because these are skilled employees.
If it's the veritable ocean of HR drones overseeing Amazon warehouse/delivery operations and mandating shit like African pride week and pronoun pins in your local Prime depot instead of shifting goods around then fuck them, they are literal parasites.

Remember when The Amazon Seattle office held a demonstration about returning to the office during their lunch hour? Those nuggets. These are the people who mandate minimum troon requirements. Fuck them, I just want my Barry White CD in 6 hours.

Amazon has been firing for the past year now but did their first AWS, non-HR/non-DEI layoffs 3 months ago in April. Majority of the laid off were sales and customer facing people with a mix of SWEs. Not sure how they were selected because many of the laid off were top performers, maybe they just didn't need so many sales people?

Apparently like half of their staff have dispersed "non co-located" teams meaning they're just returning to office to use their monitors and yap on their headsets but they have to go because attendance is tracked via badging and laptop location services (Apple does this as well). So like a couple of posters said above, it's about controlling you and showing you who's your master by making you do stupid shit at their whim.

On the Amazon demonstration, there's actually an internal Slack channel that was set up to protest RTO but my buddy tells me the most vocal people in there are pronoun faggots which is sad considering forced return to office is a form of enforcing modern-day serfdom, and the troons/fags representing the movement against RTO at the forefront kills the legitimacy of the movement.

Speaking of troons, they really do support grooming and fucking children. A based lady recently (I think it was after SOF's opening weekend) posted something to the tune of "I watched Sound of Freedom over the weekend, and it's not RTO related but everyone really needs to give it a watch because it's eye opening" in said Slack channel and everybody jumped on her demanding her to GTFO with the spam and calling her a conspiracy theorist. In the exact words of my buddy, it was a whole thread filled with replies you'd expect from pRedditors except it was on an internal Amazon channel.

What choice do these tards have? The AWS SWEs won't find a job with their current salary in Chattanooga and the DEIs won't find a job anywhere else. Every major tech company is calling people back into the office, not that it matters because they are laying people off. There is too much pressure from local politicians, real estate developers, and LinkedIn influencers.

Amazon owns like half of downtown Seattle and is a major landlord, they also received tax incentives to set up a big office in Arlington. It's absolutely real estate driven and not limited to Amazon, like NYC is also hardcore incentivizing RTO and I bet many more cities in the US and globally are doing it too just that you don't read about it unless it gets publicized broadly (and why would they unless some kind of scandal or protest breaks out)

Those saying this doesn’t happen in Europe - it does, I’ve seen more than one company do similar. The usual thing is when two companies merge and they have two offices in a country. They close one, and the only option is report to the remaining office or you’ve deemed to have resigned
I didn’t think this was legal, but I have seen it done and as far I know no one got any severance from one.
The second they did but they had to fight for it. My last company did this and fired all the overlapping people in our office when they merged with a competitor. I escaped for some reason, but about a dozen people were marched out of the building. They all took it to tribunal and all won, and I think they got about a years salary each to keep quiet about it. BUT it took them over a year to get that and it was very stressful for them. A lot of people don’t want that stress.
I should have known then it would be a shit place to work, and it was
I don’t see how Amazon can get away with this. Potting a condition on the job that an employee cannot meet them firing them is out of order

They do it in Europe all the time, even in the countries with heavy employee-favoring laws. "EU do the protecc for employees against big bad companies, America bad no human rights" is one of the most underrated yet massive ongoing propaganda campaigns on the internet.

Big companies like Amazon will take a couple of months to work it out with their legal teams to reduce chances of getting sued but smaller companies sometimes outright risk getting sued and fire their staff, preying on their lack of experience to just sign the offer and leave.
 
, there's actually an internal Slack channel that was set up to protest RTO but my buddy tells me the most vocal people in there are pronoun faggots
Deliberate - just how the progressive stack was used to take down OWS.
Saw similar at work when the covid shots were being pushed. Bear in mind this was a truly global company with people from multiple countries and religions. Loads of comments gleefully demanded NO religious opt outs AT ALL but those people suddenly got very silent when (politely) reprimanded by actually Muslim Muslims in Muslim countries or actually religious Jews in Israel. What they meant of course was ‘no white Christian opt outs.’ ‘Oh of course i didnt mean you!’ Well who did you mean? Oh you mean your own countrymen you disagree with. Got it.
Amazon are scum. Big corporations are scum and the government is beholden to them all, in a seamless blob to enact their agendas. Which is, going by at least one definition, actual facism.
 
Deliberate - just how the progressive stack was used to take down OWS.
Saw similar at work when the covid shots were being pushed. Bear in mind this was a truly global company with people from multiple countries and religions. Loads of comments gleefully demanded NO religious opt outs AT ALL but those people suddenly got very silent when (politely) reprimanded by actually Muslim Muslims in Muslim countries or actually religious Jews in Israel. What they meant of course was ‘no white Christian opt outs.’ ‘Oh of course i didnt mean you!’ Well who did you mean? Oh you mean your own countrymen you disagree with. Got it.
Amazon are scum. Big corporations are scum and the government is beholden to them all, in a seamless blob to enact their agendas. Which is, going by at least one definition, actual facism.
What's OWS and what happened there?

There is no saving grace for woke companies but least FAGMAN companies went fully remote during the scamdemic and stayed that way until Apple broke and mandated RTO last year, which was past most countries' "no jab no job" mandates, allowing many of their white collar serfs to escape the poison if they wanted.

Employees of other companies who wanted people to RTO as early as 2020 or 2021 weren't so lucky.
 
What's OWS and what happened there?
Occupy Wall Street
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And some comments on the same from 10-years-ago-reddit
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The management wants you to know that you're their dog, so you have to come when you're called and stay in the kennel until they let you out.


Yes, because there's this thing called "at-will employment" which means you can be fired at any time, for any reason. There is no legal requirement to prove "just cause" to fire anyone unless that person is a member of a protected class, and even then you have to prove you were fired because you're a member of that protected class.
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Montana is the only exception. If you can make it 6 months in a job in Montana your boss has to prove he fired you for a reason.
God Montana is great.
 
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