Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom - Life Finds A Way

[Zaryiu]

Everything went to shit in Universe when they made carnivorous dinosaurs, even in the first movie they stupidly can't see that is just asking for trouble

 

[Gorillagorillagorilla]

Carnivorous dinosaurs wouldn't even be that much trouble to contain. The only reason they constantly breakout is because we love apex predators.

Also I wish the dinosaurs were more animalistic. There are quite a few times in FK where they felt too self-aware.

 

[Fougaro]

So by having "progressives" doing "progressive" things involving dinosaurs, it doesn't go as planned for them, and so the attempt to "progress" humanity has ultimately led to humanity's eventual (self) destruction. If not in the present (in-film) with the dinosaurs running free state-side, it will in the future with governments/corporations funding labs to clone dinosaurs for something like, mmmmm, warfare. Because mankind just can't not have war.

A possible future scenario would be people with more assets than brains being fantastically retаrded enough to create more velociraptors in spite of everything that happened in the past and in spite them being described in universe as more intelligent than dolphins and primates - possibly second only to humans - and said raptors unsurprisingly fucking up their keikaku and running amok not just US- but worldwide. I won't be surprised if Jurassic World 3 will be an unironic version of Gremlins 2.

 

[Gorillagorillagorilla]

Animals are also shitty weapons on the modern battlefield. There's a reason that the old war dog breeds of Rome are now extinct and we don't send elephants barreling into the enemy. Animals are unpredictable, expensive in terms of resources and rations, easily manipulated with fear, and can't be reasoned with. And yes, I know we use German shepherds in bomb-sniffing but that's more behind the scenes and stuff.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Animals are also shitty weapons on the modern battlefield. There's a reason that the old war dog breeds of Rome are now extinct and we don't send elephants barreling into the enemy. Animals are unpredictable, expensive in terms of resources and rations, easily manipulated with fear, and can't be reasoned with. And yes, I know we use German shepherds in bomb-sniffing but that's more behind the scenes and stuff.

I remember the movie mentioned some of the buyers at the monster auction were pharmaceutical companies, which honestly to me made a lot more sense. It reminds me of Deep Blue Sea where the super sharks were created because they wanted to use the brain tissue as an Alzheimer's cure. Cloned dinosaurs have limited use as weapons but that kind of genetic power opens up a lot of doors for other areas of science but I guess movie audiences are too dumb to accept any kind of motivation other than "soldier dudes want war raptors".

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

I agree with your post and all, but I'm pretty sure this was just the next level of the franchise's overall message of "Yo, stop doing this shit [genetic engineering] or you're going to fuck humanity over because of chaos theory". People in the modern day aren't taking it into account that by opening Pandora's box bringing dinosaurs back from extinction, you've essentially cursed the world, and Mother Nature's not happy to be ignored--both in-film and meta (I want to believe we're smart enough to not clone dinosaurs like the T-Rex, but with talks of "de-extinction" by bringing back the woolly mammoth, what's the next most popular extinct animal to consider resurrecting?...). When it comes to Jurassic World this message may have been accidental on the crew's part, which, given people in general are just sadly that ignorant about their consequences, just further vindicates everything Ian Malcolm has been saying.

So by having "progressives" doing "progressive" things involving dinosaurs, it doesn't go as planned for them, and so the attempt to "progress" humanity has ultimately led to humanity's eventual (self) destruction. If not in the present (in-film) with the dinosaurs running free state-side, it will in the future with governments/corporations funding labs to clone dinosaurs for something like, mmmmm, warfare. Because mankind just can't not have war.

Y'know, this would probably be quite the self-aware franchise if the people making the films were self-aware themselves, but this is Hollywood we're talking about...

I agree. There must have been a massive disconnect between the original draft and the final execution. Poe's law has infested everything. I wouldn't be surprised if the original version of the script went right over somebody's head. The only way to know will be to wait for the next sequel.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Everything went to shit in Universe when they made carnivorous dinosaurs, even in the first movie they stupidly can't see that is just asking for trouble

If we could bring back Dinosaurs there would certainly be hype to see Stegos and Brontos come back. But come on we all know there’d be major disappointment if there weren’t T-Rex.

 

[Gorillagorillagorilla]

I mean zoos keep all sorts of dangerous shit all the time and you don't hear about JP tier breakouts that often. Like since a T. rex can't jump, just do this.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Like since a T. rex can't jump

I know there's only so much we can gather from fossils and shit, but prior to Jurassic Park, it was basically common knowledge that dinosaurs were slow, stupid giant reptiles, then it got challenged and it took years for the theory to be accepted. Who's to say a T-Rex can't jump? At least, not when they're already at full size, but when they're babies? With sharp teeth?

Also a full-sized T-Rex is believed to have had a bite force of 12,800 pounds, and I'm sure it charging a skull bash is like that of a giant wrecking ball, if not more. Get it angry enough, and it'll find a way to escape from its pen, even if it can't get very far.

Pretty certain dinosaurs had to go extinct so humankind could exist because they were just that scary strong. Mammoths got about as big as or more than a T-Rex, and early man had no real problems taking those down, but I still don't trust a T-Rex to get taken down so easily with spears and other pointy objects unless they were to find a way to make a spear-tank.

 

[Gorillagorillagorilla]

I was thinking more in terms of how hard it would be to contain a T. rex. I assume that containing a juvenile of Jane's size would be like controlling a lion or a tiger.

 

[Fougaro]

Pretty certain dinosaurs had to go extinct so humankind could exist because they were just that scary strong. Mammoths got about as big as or more than a T-Rex, and early man had no real problems taking those down, but I still don't trust a T-Rex to get taken down so easily with spears and other pointy objects unless they were to find a way to make a spear-tank.
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It was an animal that could effortlessly rip apart a car with its jaws, had the smelling sense of a vulture, 4x the eyesight of a hawk, approximately the intelligence of a puppy (which by dino standards is impressive) and made noises that is speculated to be infrasound combined with ASMR from hell. Rexy was the T-800 of the dinosaurs so trying to take it down with anything less than gunpowder technology would have been less of a hunt but more of a Dark Souls boss fight.