Jurassic Park/World megathread - Spared no expense.

[Mac Monster]

Before we even get to guns taking down dinos, everything Jurassic World Rebirth said is right. Climate, oxygen levels, would kill these immediately before anything out in the world would.

The oxygen levels wouldn't affect dinosaurs at all. They had incredibly efficient respiratory systems, and throughout the Mesozoic Era, oxygen levels were frequently lower than they are today. What would really fuck them over is modern pathogens that they have no adaptations to.

 

[A Grey Cat]

The oxygen levels wouldn't affect dinosaurs at all. They had incredibly efficient respiratory systems, and throughout the Mesozoic Era, oxygen levels were frequently lower than they are today. What would really fuck them over is modern pathogens that they have no adaptations to.

Malcom in the book literally pointed out the dinosaurs could barley breath let alone survive because of how different the earth's oxygen is after 65 million years.

Surprised it took them this long to get to that point.

 

[Mac Monster]

Malcom in the book literally pointed out the dinosaurs could barley breath let alone survive because of how different the earth's oxygen is after 65 million years.

Perhaps Ingen didn't vaccinate their dinosaurs before releasing them into their enclosures. Outside of pathogens, dinosaurs would have no trouble breathing our modern air. It's only the giant insects from the Carboniferous that require higher levels of oxygen since they diffuse it directly into their bodies.

Jurassic World: Rebirth trying to use oxygen levels as an excuse for why dinosaurs can only live in a select few locations is really fucking dumb, especially when the previous shitty film already showed us that they were perfectly fine living all around the world.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I think Superman and F4 will kill each other. The bad reviews on one will hinder the other.

I really hope because what I've seen so far is awful. At least JP franchise accepts they can be campy. Gunn thinks his millennial slop cringe dialogue is top notch.

Malcom in the book literally pointed out the dinosaurs could barley breath let alone survive because of how different the earth's oxygen is after 65 million years.

Surprised it took them this long to get to that point.

In the movie, this doesn't seem a problem at all. I suppose this was solved while creating them. There is no point in having an animal that can't really survive in our environment.

That's why I am not bothered by those deformed dinos from Rebirth. The first versions they had could have been so terrible damaged that they had to put them down out of mercy.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I know we need to shut off our brains for movies, but I just can't at this point for Jurassic Park.

I could believe the first two movies happening but after a Trex rampaged through LA the US government would have stepped in and shut down InGen, had congressional hearings, and most likely nerve gassed the island until nothing could live on it.

Don't get me started at the end of the second Pratt film where they were like "Now dinosaurs are allowed to roam with us!". Ok retard say goodbye to all your dogs and cats, because velociraptors are going to eat them enmass. Not to mention the giant sea krakens. Even if the US didn't step in some other country would the minute a supertanker got sank by some retard dino.

Fun premise and fun first movie. Everything after is dog shit.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I could believe the first two movies happening but after a Trex rampaged through LA the US government would have stepped in and shut down InGen, had congressional hearings, and most likely nerve gassed the island until nothing could live on it.

I agree but the JP islands are not America, iicr.

You're right about InGen. Should have been shut down just after the first JP movie, but we know they moved around a lot of money to keep the events quiet. Now it's too late because the animals are well known and the public don't want to see any government putting down dinosaurs.

The right solution was to kill them all in that stupid volcano plot, and keep only a few alive. Instead, they decided that somehow they multiplied that much all over the world in, what? five years?

 

[WonderWino]

At this point may as well go full Dino Riders.

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More like......

Literal genetically engineered t-rex created by humanoid descendants of dinosaurs, with literal lasers attached to its head

they still lack human ingenuity and coordination. that's how humanity has survived going against lions and elephants with spears.
sure, the bodycount would by high but eventually the raptors would lose. the first movies work because it was a rag-tag group going up against a whole island, the numbers alone weren't in their favor.

They did pretty well dealing with muldoon and he was very familiar with them. I suspect raptors would be rather difficult to get rid of entirely once they got out into the wilderness

It's funny how even the first movie forgot about this: https://jurassicpark.fandom.com/wiki/Lysine_contingency

No they didn't. It was explicitly addressed in the lost world as the herbivores surviving by eating plants rich in lysine and the carnivores eating them. Whether thats realistic or not is another matter but it wasn't forgotten about

A lot of the things that happened were the result of Nedry meddling with the park systems. The raptors were constantly under vigilance. They told us the raptors were constantly checking too for a chance to escape and Nedry provided it because, as Ian said, he didn't respect them. He didn't think they were as dangerous as they were.

Nedry respected the raptors just fine. Muldoon explicitly pointed this out. They got out because the idiots in the control room shut the entire system down without stopping to consider the fact that would shut off the raptor fences as well. Something even nedry explicitly knew better than to fuck with. Nedry may have set the whole situation in motion but shutting everything down without considering what could happen is on them not him. As is the bizarre fact they didn't have any repair crews, emergency medical staff, armed security staff or emergency radio independent of the rest of the system on the island 24/7. Even if nedry didn't do all the stupid shit, with that lack of foresight something like this was always going to happen sooner or later. a critical system failure, crippling hardware failure, another worse storm, someone doing something stupid, etc... they literally have nobody on the entire island that can repair even minor damage or issues or protect the staff that are there as a skeleton crew when everybody else fucks off, let alone the ability to treat any serious injuries. You'd think all of this would be legally mandated, and demanded by the investors. You know, the same investors who got the whole situation going and were questioning the safety of the park after a worker got killed for nonsensical reasons doing something that should have been entirely automated, especially given how dangerous those particular dinosaurs are. Odd that the lawyer never pointed this stuff out, even when naming potential safety issues early on

On the other hand shit had to happen the way it did for the events of the movie to happen at all. You also have to ignore the fact nedry would have been caught before too long, as somebody would have noticed the missing embryos and started asking questions about how that happened and when, not to mention the company that paid him would have some explaining to do about their sudden breakthroughs, that just happen to involve species that are identical to the ones from jurassic park. Plenty of lawyers would have been asking some difficult questions about corporate espionage after that. Particularly given nedrys blatant and admitted financial problems that everybody is explicitly aware of. Basically everybody involved in this situation on every level was an idiot

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Odd that the lawyer never pointed this stuff out, even when naming potential safety issues early on

I just assume Hammond was gonna pay him hush money or something. Like there was a reason he chose international waters for his park, so he could avoid legal mumbo-jumbo like worker's comp and such.

 

[A Grey Cat]

I just assume Hammond was gonna pay him hush money or something. Like there was a reason he chose international waters for his park, so he could avoid legal mumbo-jumbo like worker's comp and such.

Going back to the book. Book Hammond flat out says. "This isn't the US it's not even Costa Rica! It's MY island!"


The original film and richard attenborough's performance really painted two different Hammonds. While you can speculate movie Hammond paying hush money behind the scenes, you just know book Hammond paid off somebody and would keep doing so if he had survived. He planned on starting over from scratch even if it ended up costing him his entire personal fortune to do so.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

Anyways, saw the new movie. Overall I'd give it a 7/10. It's very interesting because it felt like a movie that could have come out in the 90s. Kind of a generic action film, but that is strangely refreshing in 2025. Couple cool sequences, but nothing truly iconic or noteworthy.

I only really like the first Jurassic Park movie, but my son loves all of them as the Camp Cretaceous tv show, so I ended up seeing this. I thought it was ok, definitely better than the last few. But it definitely felt like David Koepp delivered a script about mercenaries fighting dinosaurs and then the studio demanded they throw in some kids and a cute baby dinosaur.

 

[RybenZ999]

Genuine question, do Jurassic World characters lack peripheral vision and hearing? I remember there were scenes in the movie where it seemed ludicrous that characters didn't notice the massive dinosaur right around the corner until it was too late.

 

[RybenZ999]

Malcom in the book literally pointed out the dinosaurs could barley breath let alone survive because of how different the earth's oxygen is after 65 million years.

Climate, oxygen levels, would kill these immediately before anything out in the world would.

The oxygen levels wouldn't affect dinosaurs at all. They had incredibly efficient respiratory systems, and throughout the Mesozoic Era, oxygen levels were frequently lower than they are today.

If we were to apply real world logic to this, then the oxygen levels wouldn't be much of a problem. The idea that they wouldn't be able to breathe is a myth, cretaceous oxygen levels weren't that different from ours. Climate on the other hand, would be a deal breaker for them. T Rex wouldn't be able to handle midwestern winters.

As for the dinosaurs breaking out, unlike lions and bears, Jurassic Park dinosaurs have an insatiable bloodlust for humans which makes things different. That being said, the realistic scenario would be the government euthanising all of them in order to protect the public.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

I think the real missed opportunity of these films when dinosaurs breach mainland US is not having a redneck squad of about 30 guys going on a Trex hunt. Good old boys riding around in home modified vehicles while packing everything from top of the line gear to Revolutionary era long guns blasting their way through a pack of raptors is probably the most realistic scenario you could get.

Europeans are screwed though.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Genuine question, do Jurassic World characters lack peripheral vision and hearing? I remember there were scenes in the movie where it seemed ludicrous that characters didn't notice the massive dinosaur right around the corner until it was too late.

You mean specifically JW or the franchise in general? In og JP, Lex noticed the raptors entering the food court immediately. If they didn't notice the Rex later was because they were busy with the raptors.

tbf, the raptors are top predators and they've evolved to be quiet to ambush. The T-Rex not only doesn't need this but can't do it because we've been shown how the earth shakes when they're coming. Most likely they don't notice them because they're often panicking with other dinos on the loose.

 

[Owen Grady]

I think the real missed opportunity of these films when dinosaurs breach mainland US is not having a redneck squad of about 30 guys going on a Trex hunt. Good old boys riding around in home modified vehicles while packing everything from top of the line gear to Revolutionary era long guns blasting their way through a pack of raptors is probably the most realistic scenario you could get.

Perhaps, but we’re not allowed to have something that cool because it’s the Current Year and that kind of scenario would involve too many heroic White men and guns for Hollywood’s sensibilities. Rednecks can never be decent, hospitable or heroic people in Hollywood. They can only be bigoted, racist, incestuous dipshits, if they have any role at all. (Except for maybe in Tucker and Dale vs. Evil, but I haven’t seen that movie all the way through before so I can’t say for sure.)

This should’ve been obvious in the awful Battle at Big Rock short when the redneck hides in his trailer like a bitch during the Allosaurus attack.

It would’ve been so much cooler watching the ragged White hillbilly coming out of his trailer as his bird dogs trot at his side, strapped with his crossbow after firing at the Allosaurus. While the dinosaur retreats, the obnoxious mixed-race couple looks up at their rescuer as the nig nog father goes “Holy shit! Cletus! Where the hell were you?!”

And the old boy just takes a quick sip of whiskey before slamming the bottle on the ground, looking over at the guy with a satisfied expression as he responds, in an allusion to his first words in the beginning of the short, “Oh, you know. Survivin’.”

Instead we got the absolutely ridiculous conclusion of having the Strong Independent Child of Color save her miscegenous parents by using the hillbilly’s crossbow that she somehow stole, all the while her submissive White stepbrother watches over the precious mixed-race baby like a good goy.

 

[Guyspleasedontfight]

I feel like this movie was better than the last two Jurassic worlds, but the parts with the wholesome chungus family were dumb to me. I also felt like there needs to be an extended cut of this movie,like maybe another half hour? And that half hour needs to be heavy on the Dinos. I kept hearing the D-Rex was supposed to fight a Spino, where did that go?

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

I think the real missed opportunity of these films when dinosaurs breach mainland US is not having a redneck squad of about 30 guys going on a Trex hunt. Good old boys riding around in home modified vehicles while packing everything from top of the line gear to Revolutionary era long guns blasting their way through a pack of raptors is probably the most realistic scenario you could get.

Europeans are screwed though.

Unleashing dinosaurs on the non White continents would be great population control.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I just remember that the LEGO game was fun and the Dimensions part was also kind of fun.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Unleashing dinosaurs on the non White continents would be great population control.

"how would you feel if you didn't get eaten for breakfast this morning"

 

[The Revenant]

I thought Rebirth was... fine, I guess. Spinosaurus is my favorite dinosaur so that did bring the film up a few points. All of the scenes with the actual dinosaurs were cool except for the fucking dragons. I heard that the Mutadons replaced the Raptors and I have no fucking idea why they would do that when the Raptor design for this movie was actually peak.

The end of the movie didn't feel very rewarding either and I left feeling pretty empty. The D-Rex really didn't do shit and I definitely thought some dinosaurs like the T-Rex and Spino would get more screentime than they ended up getting. I also really couldn't give a shit about any of the human characters except for the nerd with the Altoids