Jurassic Park/World megathread - Spared no expense.

  • 🇵🇦 Nuestro primer dominio localizado está en español en kiwifarms.pa. Our first localized domain is on Spanish on kiwifarms.pa.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account

Best jp character

  • Dr Grant

  • Dr Malcom

  • Ellie sattler

  • Owen grady

  • Claire dearing

  • Roland tembo

  • Robert muldoon

  • Paul kirby

  • John Hammond


Los resultados solo se pueden ver después de votar.
I think this movie is gonna be interesting and the premise looks promising...
The black guy and girl boss will save the white male scientist multiple times.
despite this. Sigh...

I like the new Spinosaurus design, but I was disapponted to see that they are still continuing with the hybrid dinosaur bullshit.
Ver archivo adjunto 6944819
At least the Indominus rex had the courtesy of looking like an actual dinosaur. This thing has an extra pair of tiny arms like some sort weird reptilian insect.
This makes a lot of sense, imo. For starters, they all are hybrid dinosaurs, they've made of dino DNA and modern animals to make them look like the "pretty" marketable dinosaurs we see on the park. But for each of them there had to be a few that were born defective and monstrous until they perfected the technique.
 
Amazingly, I will defend the first/original Jurassic World entirely based on its "meta."

Now don't worry. I don't deny the bad writing it has like the stupidity of the villain wanting dinosaurs as weapons of war, letting the I. Rex run amok than just bombing the thing after its first rampage, or heel-running. And this is someone willing to forgive the very fact the I. Rex HAS to rampage or else we have no movie, y'know?

But the very concept and initial plot of the movie? THAT was actually a legit clever take. That the park actually got to work and was successful. That alone was actually a plot twist to me way back when than shuffling onto one of the abandoned islands yet again. So too was making a hybrid dinosaur based on the fact that, like filmgoers after three films, seeing the original dinos as "boring" by this point. Even Dr. Wu noting that they still hybridized/genetically engineered the supposedly "pure" dinos just to fit public - IE audience - expectations of what they get from Jurassic Park was an actual good bit of writing and plot exposition, and so was setting up for any future films with his cat-and-mouse metaphor.

So yes, I can wish they were much more clever on making the I. Rex rampage around, setting the park up to fail again, and cutting off idiotic things like Claire running in heels.... but I can genuinely enjoy the first Jurassic World just based on the concept alone. It was a blockbuster that IMO earned its success by successfully using that "meta" both in real life and in-universe. It's just a damn pity the future films were just fucking tripe and kept upping the stakes into generic doomsday crap instead of continuing fresh explorations into fresh themes or genre-mixing like that one little short film where an Allosaurus (if I remember right) terrorizes a family's camping trip. Imagine a genuine Jurassic Park horror film with a starving raptor pack hunting down your typical freewheeling teenagers innawoods and it becomes a genuine battle of wits as each side is whittled down. Everyone would rightly go nuts over it.
 
So about the new mutant design for the island, here are some interesting notes we know about it:

- It is designed to resemble a Rancor, Xenomorph, and a T-Rex (out of universe, and people speculate the director did this since he couldn't have the rancor monster in Rogue One)

- In-universe, it is a failed clone of a T-Rex.
 
So about the new mutant design for the island, here are some interesting notes we know about it:

- It is designed to resemble a Rancor, Xenomorph, and a T-Rex (out of universe, and people speculate the director did this since he couldn't have the rancor monster in Rogue One)

- In-universe, it is a failed clone of a T-Rex.

This sounds like a rumor. Did Disney really tell him the rancor was off limits for Rogue One? Im sure if they wrote it into the script they could have used it.
 
It was a blockbuster that IMO earned its success by successfully using that "meta" both in real life and in-universe.
honestly yeah, it and Top Gun both did what they set out to do, especially Jurassic World where the new owner buys into the myths of the original founder, technology upgrades make it easier and cheaper a dozen years later to accomplished what a failed company tried to do in the 90s, the public getting bored after years of the same shit. There being a hipster talking about "what made the original good" all the silly tie-ins and the jimmy buffet cameo, every character worked well.

They didn't try to "subvert expectations" or give us a near carbon copy like The Force Awakens, but give us a nice logical sequel. One of the things everyone was amazed by was how "real" the park seemed too with all the bullshit marketing, the jimmy fallon cameo, the restaurants being brands, the military guys being either good or bad.

Everything was very straight down the middle, the type of "classic" Americana i bet every zoomer thinks of when they think "classic" americana or "the good old days" because of how nonsense free it was compared to most movies nowadays,

even RLM gave it an amazing review, which you can count on one hand the amount of films with budgets over $150 million that they've done that for. even the release date, it came out a few days before Trump came down the elevator, so unless you were really into gamergate, or anti-SJW bullshit at the time, this was the last big release before "the dark times"

the heels are now looked at as a silly joke and the whining about that from people is all forgotten. no trying to fist fuck the audience with subverted expectations or an obnoxious amount of memberberries. just a fun time

People still bringing up the chick that got killed proves how good that sequence was as well, it was the first and i think only time a woman is killed in this entire series as well.
 
One of the things everyone was amazed by was how "real" the park seemed too with all the bullshit marketing, the jimmy fallon cameo, the restaurants being brands, the military guys being either good or bad.
Lemme say straight off the bat, I agree with everything you said about the film here. But this struck at me in particular.

Now don't get me wrong. The entire point of the film is I. Rex causing the park to collapse in chaos and nothing the park throws at it works... but even in my first viewing I was pleasantly shocked the park's elite security wasn't just there to be mere casualties but given some oomph to show there was a reason nothing went wrong on-site till they had a threat they legitimately hadn't trained for:

-we see the I. Rex actually take some hits in its fight against that squad of guards, including the one dude who netted its mouth and the ballsy bastard shooting at it to cover his teammates till he got chomped,
-the guards were shown explicitly pulling hurt comrades to safety and being covered,
-one of the dudes about to be chomped down by Blue's pack explicitly told the truck to haul it to keep the kids safe,
-we see guards shooting down pterosaurs and herding civilians to safety,
-hell, the park owner was willing to do his part as someone with SOME helicopter training once shit started falling apart and in-universe no one expected the pterosaurs to break out.

I'm know I'm sperging and overanalyzing, but it's the little things like that as much as your correct noting of the marketing that helped the movie's enjoyment. It all actually made sense and felt real for what it was.
 
I love shooting things :biggrin:

Also why is Jonathan Bailey IN EVERYTHING? Probably a nice person but good lord the man cannot do an American accent to save his life.

Also.........when is Julianne Moore gonna return. We know what the original cast is doing. Why not her. She was one of the highlights of the sequel I think.
 
I'm know I'm sperging and overanalyzing, but it's the little things like that as much as your correct noting of the marketing that helped the movie's enjoyment. It all actually made sense and felt real for what it was.
i deleted some more political parts of my comment but its fits with what i said, basically when the movie came out it was the height of Obama-level optimism, while there was cynicism towards the 1% overall everyone had strong feelings that outside of a few bad apples, everyone could come together and "reach across the aisle" to get shit done.

it would be a joke now, but the rich middle aged man going "obviously i'm going to help people in an emergency" wasn't questioned neither was his "spare no expense" idealism because we had people like the google guys who did seem to embrace the concept and then you had the "giving pledge" billionaires and guys like bill gates who people assumed were all about helping people. in general most people assumed a certain level of selflessness and competency among all employees because people were used to that, this was near the tail end of stop-and-frisk but in general being anti-police was still an extreme fringe view when the movie came out. people still thought cops were badass super genuises that had reasons and a great understanding of what they're doing at all times, unless they were an extremely rare bad cop. the idea of a competency crisis was absurd to most people, maybe there might be a singular dumbass, but overall most people knew and excelled at what they did, like the nerd in the control room, he was a quirky character but volunteered to stay behind and could effectively do his job and several other peoples and didn't really give a shit about dying because it was an emergency.

agree with what you said about the guards not being disposable, like of course they reacted like normal people would, there was a lot of thought put into how it all worked and probably procedures and whatnot, this wasn't some "somehow palpatine returned" style middle finger but a labor of love, i'm sure if you asked Colin even now he'd be able to rattle off what guards are supposed to do if say a kid gets injured or how much a season pass vs a one or two day ticket costs or what silly bullshit names the resorts in the park all have that denote their quality. And that trickled down, you probably could have pulled aside one of the extras and they'd be able to tell you what their job was at the park and what is happening that day same way you could a disney employee. I'm sure plenty of people working on the film could even give you directions the same way someone might know how to get from one area of a disney park to the other.

Its literally a stupid film, the type of forgettable B+ level movie people wouldn't normally obsess over but because it was the last one that had that level of thought put into it it gives it real value, it seems like every movie of the last 5 years have more plot holes than non-plot holes and its obvious no one involved gives a flying fuck about the universe this stuff takes place in and it bleeds down to the characters as well. everyone is disposable unless they're not and there's no real stakes to anything and the characters quippy nature means even the audience doesn't care.

Meanwhile you truly did go on a ride in Jurassic World, especially because of that iconic death, people genuinely didn't know who else might fucking die. Its so competent that its genuinely unique in our modern world, you can tell everything was thought about and the writers gave a fuck, what used to be just a given as something you expect in media is now absurdly rare. even if people writing the film or working on it hated the franchise you'd never know because they still gave 100% now its the opposite, you can tell that shitty writers hate whatever media they're working on.
 
For what's worth it, I think JW managed the billionaire philanthropist character very well. The guy was not driven by greed, but real enthusiasm for what they were doing. He also was able to see the dinos as both living beings and products.

The reason he acted as he did wasnt malice but naivety. He was right about risking to shut down the park and not being able to open again if people knew one of the animals had escaped, because that would mean millions in lawsuits, people losing their jobs, and endangering the animals. He was too overconfident, but he wasn't a bad guy.

Meanwhile, Megalodon had a similar plot and the rich guy here was cartoonishly evil and you can see they pushed the message of "rich guy bad" too in our face. He was stupid and fake , JW rich dude was not any of that at all.
 
The JP movies are great. The JW movies are garbage. JW1 is only slightly not as awful as the others. It was like a sequel no one asked for and if we did get a new JP movie I would want one better than that. I saw someone say that JW could have been a sci-fi original called Escape from Dinosaur Island and no one would have been able to tell the difference. I totally agree. It was just a bad movie. Like they said screw paying for a decent script we can just get some of that autism fueled fan fiction crap off their internet for free.

I don't have much hope for that Rebirth movie either. It also looks like total garbage.
 
Because two carnivores deciding to go WWE Superslam on Tranny RexRaptorJellyfish was retarded. Animals don't behave that way. You might find predators opportunistically attacking the same weakened animal, but not in tandem, and not in a situation where one leaps off the other to get in their acrobatics. I pointed it out to illustrate that it wouldn't be the first time a Jurassic film had two completely different species of dinosaurs working together when they very likely wouldn't. Hell, they did the exact same thing at the end of Dominion for the Giganotosaurus iirc.

As for Raptors killing their own babies - it's not so ridiculous. Cannibalism is certainly something animals will do - to kill off rival young, to alleviate stress, etc. Obviously the book got things wrong like the Tyrannosaurus's vision being based off movement, but I'll take it over some of the blatantly dumb shit that happened in later installments.
Eh, I can cut them some slack over that since at the end of the day, these movies are, at their core, just Hollywood monster flicks. When watching a Jurassic Park movie, most people typically expect something that resembles a cross between Godzilla, Jaws and Pokemon. Though a TV series that focuses on the dinosaurs' more animal side while being raised captivity might be pretty interesting.
That being said, the one scene where I take your stance is the Giganotosaurus fight, which felt too out of the world even for me. The part that really gets me is the one where they sorta imply that Rexy "remembers" that her (ancestor?) was killed by the Giga. Am I reaching here or was that supposed to be intentional? Cuz if it is then that just sounds like something straight out of some high fantasy anime drivel.
>You may have bested me now, but one day my reincarnation will bestow justice upon you.
 
That being said, the one scene where I take your stance is the Giganotosaurus fight, which felt too out of the world even for me. The part that really gets me is the one where they sorta imply that Rexy "remembers" that her (ancestor?) was killed by the Giga. Am I reaching here or was that supposed to be intentional? Cuz if it is then that just sounds like something straight out of some high fantasy anime drivel.
>You may have bested me now, but one day my reincarnation will bestow justice upon you.
Fair enough. For me, the Indominus end fight was just too ludicrous to enjoy. Maybe if the T-Rex had immediately driven off the Raptor afterwards instead of them mentally fistbumping, I could've given it more leeway, but it was glaringly obvious that it was designed by people who don't understand animal behaviour.

As for the Giga conflict, you're not reaching. It was directed by the same dunderhead who wanted you to assume that because the Indominus was spliced with some genes from Velociraptors, it would automatically be able to communicate with a completely different species and they would feel inclined to band together with it. Likewise, he wanted you to believe that the T-Rex had preserved genetic memories because some mosquito drank its blood, which is equally ridiculous.

Let's not forget the revelation that the girl never had a father and was born out of the goddamn Force or something, and also was born to the bestest-scientist-who-ever-scienced, who magically came up with a cure-all that removed all inherited deficiencies from the kid.

I guess I should be happy that Sheboon Solo doesn't appear to be coming back...?
 
I guess I should be happy that Sheboon Solo doesn't appear to be coming back...?
Between her and the faggot that worked for Dodgson, Domnion seemed to have an affinity with deux ex machina niggers. In this film, the jogger appears to be some sort of mercenary (in the same vein as Dieter Stark), so he may actually kick the bucket.
 
I know this isn't exactly a "real life dinosaur" thread but have you guys heard about that new "Goliath" T Rex? Apparently they discovered a femur and deduced that it's the probably the biggest rex so far and blows Sue and Scotty out of the water. It apparently weighs close to 12.9 tons.
 
Is there a reason behind the grey-blue color scheme for the World dinosaurs? That raptor, indominus, baryonyx, therizinosaurus, giganotosaurus.... all of them have a similar color scheme. The only exception might be indoraptor (yellow stripe instead of blue, darker shade of grey) but even then my point still stands.
 
I know this isn't exactly a "real life dinosaur" thread but have you guys heard about that new "Goliath" T Rex? Apparently they discovered a femur and deduced that it's the probably the biggest rex so far and blows Sue and Scotty out of the water. It apparently weighs close to 12.9 tons.
If the upper size estimates for Goliath are correct, then it would not only be the biggest T-rex but also the biggest theropod to ever exist (or at least until we find another spinosaurid or carcharodontosaurid that exceeds it).
 
Atrás
Top Abajo