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The future in Into the Void: You will own nothing, and you will be happy. Except when you do own something. Because that makes sense.
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The writing part of the thread in a nutshell.
I sat there and thought marriage/partnership and of the legal system one would have to do and how well it could be or can be enforced and the answer is that Lily has all 5 of her braincells focused on ego stroking, jerking off, hatred of others, cutesy fluff moments, or self asks.
Listen, as long as Lily can force someone into slavery and someone brings her doordash, she'll be fine.
It feels so nice to know I can spot bad writing easier than Lily. I'm at peace.
I think she's projecting onto both. There's no rule saying someone can't multiself insert.
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I suspect the same. We've seen this in other duos, especially c!Lily and G, where Lily simultaneously want to be the kept woman but also the ultra-badass that can literally kill anybody who looks at her sideways.
I believe she mentioned for Into the Void that she explicitly identified with Lev, as her 'love language' is being doting and giving everything to somebody else... but also simultaneously says that what she WANTS most of all is to be cherished and loved unconditionally. There's a bit of Absolute Fuckin' Bullshit at the end of Into the Void where Kestri spends a full page talking about how she has never felt so loved and adored and you can absolutely tell it's just Lily poring out her deepest desires and living them out vicarously through Kestri.
But is also living vicairously through Lev, who more or less does nothing and has no personality but gets all the hot babes anyway, including and especially his own sister. His narcolespy as a major character trait makes me believe Lily is pulling no small part from Mikaila, but in retrospect Lily is unable to think of anything that these characters actually do other than sit around watching movies so him sleeping all the time could just as easily be her crippling lack of imagination.
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My favorite part is how Lily gives such a lazy, half-thought out answer for a question like this, but ask how space tampons work and we get a creepy answer about Lev sewing them for Kestri.
It's been mentioned before, but *how* does the leadership actually enforce anything? How are leaders even chosen? What happens if they go to the leadership to make a decision and one of the parties says no? Is the leader's order actually like...enforced by anyone? Same deal with housing, if the leader says someone lives in location X, what happens if the other person refuses and lives somewhere else? Or if nobody owns their home, can anyone just settle down in someone else's home? If nobody owns anything, why do Lev and Kestri have to get docking permission from a station? What are people bartering if nobody owns personal possessions? If Kestri and Lev broke up, could Lev just walk off with 150 of Kestri's solar panels because he feels he's owed them? Why is so much time devoted to trading items if nobody actually owns anything?
Oh, wait, now that I'm thinking about it, it's time for our favorite game, spot Lily's contradiction by quoting his story back to him:
Not only do possessions exist, but wills do as well. And this was someone who was recovered by the station from a cryo ship and was only on the station for a short time. Which means, in that short amount of time, making a will was apparently something that was important enough for him to do, implying that it's something everyone does...and if you're making a will, well, a big part of that is leaving your possessions behind. And we then have obvious confirmation of him owning stuff, including valuable data tapes, which you think would be owned by the station.
If you want to be even more unfair...you could make the argument that the bit about him having "few possessions" implies that it's unusual for people in the setting *not* to own more stuff, with the reason he only owned a few things being he was only on the station for a few weeks and lost the majority of things in addition to also losing his family. This is further backed up by the implication that Kestri owns a lot of stuff, and since this is the *start* of her collection, implies it's pretty normal for people to begin owning their own personal items at a young age.
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Oh, and just because I kinda dropped the "end each post with an awful quote from Into the Void" bit, I'm going to briefly revive it because I saw a quote from a section I had mocked earlier in light of
So the child rape victim who found it traumatic just to see Kestri in exposed clothing was totally fine going off on her own on a new space station (also remember because I don't want to double quote, it's been established that Julie hates space station crowds) and is also totally fine with women she's never met touching her face and drawing on her eyes. Not just fine with it, but giggling and smiling. What was that about knowing Julie's story and dropping hints about it?
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It just works. That's the entire basis of Lily's perfect society. Human error, ambition, drive and stupidity doesn't exist (until she needs someone to make Kestri/Lev offended, but they stop existing the moment the scene's over) because conflict would break her entire worldview. Her answer to each of these questions would be to look at you confused, asking "Why wouldn't they just do what works for everyone and be happy about it?", before hastily writing down a scene of Kestri going "Do you know, in the old world, people had conflict? That's so weird!".
I'm reminded of the recent Bond game drama where the Devs of the fucking Hitman games didn't consider "Hey, what if the player engages with any of the basic mechanics in a way they're not strictly told to?" and so throwing, vaulting, running and standing still break the game. People are somehow just becoming less and less capable of considering basic human fuckery that has been the foundation of our entire history.
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Your honor, I'd like to state for the record that it took Julie reacting negatively before Kestri realized she shouldn't strip in front of a 5 year old.
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You're treating this as if Lily hadn't made it clear that this is the most apathetic verison of humanity ever. Almost everyone is the type of adult that Lily sees pass by in her life, working just for the sake of working, existing just to exist, NPCs in her main character life. Everyone accepts everything, unlike Lily. Everyone just goes along with things, unlike Kestri. That's why she's special, you know. You know she's the only person who can do things, even if they're handed to her by her brother.
Lily's world is basically Elite Dangerous where the NPCs do minimal things against you. This is all the starlogs he has. His vision of humanity is so low and dismal that he cannot be bothered to think about much else. He's on the level of a young children's fantasy book of world building, the kind that's a stand alone storybook that's 20 pages long with pictures and a purposely silly story, on how much it makes sense when you think about it (and they're still fantadtic books). Because Lily never grew out of Saturday Morning Cartoon writing because he has the brains of a sheep.
The Todd Howard school of design. Again, I think it's just Lily only understanding other humans as props and objects that sometimes yell or stop him from doing things (the narcissist special), which translates into a video game outlook. It would feel natural at this point for someone to ragdoll randomly around the main characters.
To be fair, that is a development team working under time constraints. I would not be shocked if they gave up and polished as much as they could in the game while they had time. It sucks for immersion, but sacrifices have to be made.
Lily doesn't even have that possible excuse.
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Children's books usually have some amount of internal consistency.
I keep going back to this but the closest modern comparison is Age of Scorpius, where the author was so in love with her worldbuilding and conceptualization that she utterly failed to actually put everything together into a cohesive story. There are constant moments whre the magic system is established... but also it doesn't necessarily have to follow its own rules. There's a thematic throughline about government's silencing the people... but actually the estory is about legacy and individuality. There are Ur Magics or whatever they're called that must pass through a specific bloodline... and wouldn't you know it, all the main characters have one of these powers, and that seems to be the only reason they're traveling together. The Scorpio Code is extremely oppressive to Scorpios, forcing them to suppress their emotions... but also somehow it's instrumental for Scorpios ruling the world, even though there's a whole cabal dedicated to murdering Scorpios who break the code.
Hell, there's even a high preoccupation with the characters sleeping.
If Lily could just choose something to root her story in, it would instantly improve. Personally I think she should've started with her permise (two siblings adopt a space-child) and built the world specifically around the complications that introduces, but what she actually wants is a campaign setting that validates her fetishes even if that means she has to constantly change the rules to get what she wants.
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This strengthens my opinion that Julie should have been the point of view character honestly. She has a character arc laid out for her that you can't really tell from Lev or Kestri's perspectives since it's much more internal. But I doubt Jerry wants his cozy incest space adventure story to be bogged down by a traumatised child's rape recovery story, despite Jerry himself including that aspect for no reason beyond edgy and lesbian incest.
Mind control is one of Jerry's fetishes that isn't as talked about because the incest and pedophilia are much more horrifying, but all these fixations do feed into one another. There's the violate arc in Pokémadhouse (X), the Warcraft fanfictions with Anduin mind controlling and raping Anevay (X X), mindcontrolling Aerie to turn from straight to lesbian (X) and Astri being brainwashed so many times she forgot her original personality and just became Anevay's slave (X). I also remember Jerry sperging out about the existence of fanfictions tagged with Sylvanas and "mind break", which is a very specific thing to be outraged about, but I couldn't find the source so you'll just have to take my word for it.
Someone who knows more about psychology could probably write up a whole analysis about what all this says about him.
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It'd be like fucking a sister I don't hate.
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Especially from someone who can probably distinguish brands of panties just by sniffing them...
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Lily definitely isn't suited for writing anything big. I mean, he's not suited for writing a smaller premise, either, but it's at least vaguely closer to what he can handle. I feel like I say some variation of this every time I post, but one of the many big writing problems Lily faces is he can't plan, let alone write a plot. If we're very generous, we can say he can at least make a premise, but even that feels like a stretch because the actual premise of Into the Void keeps changing. And I'm using present tense there because I think the premise is going to change again in a few months from now when Lily gets the itch to write more vignettes, since I doubt he's actually doing anything with Into the Void right now/how he generally seems to bounce around projects.
If it was any other writer, I'd likely agree two siblings adopting a space-child is a good starting premise, but I genuinely think it can't work for Lily for two reasons. One is he really can't handle writing that many characters, but more importantly, he can't handle writing children and seems incapable of even imagining what sort of issues might arise from suddenly having to care for a child.
Gun to my head, I'd say the closest Lily could get to making Into the Void something is a short novella about the siblings taking a space road trip to the observatory. Drop everything with Julie, population issues, dead planets and creating the engine. Earth can still be gone, but leave it up to the reader's imagination to decide what happened to it. It'd be much easier to get away with it in a novella length story instead of a full on novel.
It'd still be pretty lackluster because it'd basically just consist of Lev and Kestri going from station to station until they reach the observatory. But...that's arguably what Into the Void is right now as it is, just with the added fluff of flashbacks and scavenging sections.
Anyway, Into the Imoen
Shockingly, I think this is accurate:
It's why this comes off as yet another Lily contradiction because this:
In addition to a classic Lily contradiction, it also feels like we have Lily not understanding a character. I'll actually cut Lily a tiny bit of slack because I think BG1 Imoen was designed to be a warm, comfort character. Like...she was added last minute as the earliest NPC option because the first two NPCs you run across are untrustworthy and the game is 90's hard, so having no party in the beginning is pretty brutal if you don't know what you're doing. Subsequently, that's why Imoen has no real personality, she's just "cheery friend" in the first game. But nobody really has character in the first game because NPC interactions were basically limited to recruitment. Her personality really comes from the VA being upbeat.
But when BG2 was made and we started entering the world of NPCs being able to talk/more complex game stories, everyone started getting fleshed out. And Imoen is actually a pretty dark character. Like, 95% of her dialogue is related to trauma and torture in BG2 because she's really less of a character and more of a plot device. She wasn't even meant to be a full on party member. To use a BG3 comparison, it's kinda like how Halsin and Minthara have notably less to say than everyone else because they were last minute party member additions due to fan demand. Hell, now that I think about it, I think a decent chunk of the dialogue Imoen delivers isn't even really her and just the dream version you see between chapters to basically motivate you to do plot stuff.
It's not until the expansion where she really like...has a character. And...it's fine, it's not nearly as bleak as it is in base BG2, but it's also not particularly comforting or cheerful, either. She's more...hardened. Not to the point of being completely closed off or anything, Really, if I had to classify it, I'd say she's the example of a trauma character basically going through whatever caused the trauma and coming out the other end as a stronger person. They've lost some of their innocence, but they aren't defined by what happened and have moved on. She's also more confident, I think she's like, one of the few characters that outright states in the expansion that you/your party are some of the most powerful people in the world, especially compared to where you were in the first game. And it's not like, a Kestri level over the top boast, and by that point in the game, when she's casting the highest level magic (or at least very close to it if the dialogue happens to fire off really early) she's not wrong.
But when Lily talks about Imoen, it's pretty clear he doesn't see any of that. He also really latches onto the sibling aspect. Which, if you've never played BG might sound reasonable because you assume a certain thing when you hear sibling characters. But the big thing is, Imoen wasn't ever written to be your sibling and that dynamic was never meant to be explored. It's not like Full Metal Alchemist or something similar, where that relationship is like, the heart and soul of the characters. It's really more of a plot convenience, to the point I think if the decision to keep Imoen alive wasn't made last minute, I suspect they would have dropped it entirely, because in the expansion, when she does become a character...that's basically what they do. Like, they pay lip service to it because they have to, but it really feels like they want you to forget it more often than not.
But Lily likes incest. And while he says this:
But really, what it comes down to is the incest of it all. If you kept everything the same but just tweaked it so you weren't siblings and still childhood friends like the original intent for the character, and Lily would have no interest whatsoever in any version of the character, fanfic or official. Which will probably be the TLDR of whatever overly lengthy post I make once his video releases.
I'll even give Lily some credit (that will momentarily be taken away) I think the majority of the BG fanbase would agree with him on this statement. Which is (part of) why the Imoen romance got so much pushback in the first place. Because she isn't a character that should be sexualized. Which is why the alternate Imoen *friendship* mod exists that I notice Lily never talks about. IIRC, there's actually at least two variants out there.
It's why this comes off as yet another Lily contradiction because this:
is entirely at odds with installing the mod. You can't say you don't view the character as sexual when you install a mod to romance them when there's alternatives available that provide additional content for your comfort character without the romance.
In addition to a classic Lily contradiction, it also feels like we have Lily not understanding a character. I'll actually cut Lily a tiny bit of slack because I think BG1 Imoen was designed to be a warm, comfort character. Like...she was added last minute as the earliest NPC option because the first two NPCs you run across are untrustworthy and the game is 90's hard, so having no party in the beginning is pretty brutal if you don't know what you're doing. Subsequently, that's why Imoen has no real personality, she's just "cheery friend" in the first game. But nobody really has character in the first game because NPC interactions were basically limited to recruitment. Her personality really comes from the VA being upbeat.
But when BG2 was made and we started entering the world of NPCs being able to talk/more complex game stories, everyone started getting fleshed out. And Imoen is actually a pretty dark character. Like, 95% of her dialogue is related to trauma and torture in BG2 because she's really less of a character and more of a plot device. She wasn't even meant to be a full on party member. To use a BG3 comparison, it's kinda like how Halsin and Minthara have notably less to say than everyone else because they were last minute party member additions due to fan demand. Hell, now that I think about it, I think a decent chunk of the dialogue Imoen delivers isn't even really her and just the dream version you see between chapters to basically motivate you to do plot stuff.
It's not until the expansion where she really like...has a character. And...it's fine, it's not nearly as bleak as it is in base BG2, but it's also not particularly comforting or cheerful, either. She's more...hardened. Not to the point of being completely closed off or anything, Really, if I had to classify it, I'd say she's the example of a trauma character basically going through whatever caused the trauma and coming out the other end as a stronger person. They've lost some of their innocence, but they aren't defined by what happened and have moved on. She's also more confident, I think she's like, one of the few characters that outright states in the expansion that you/your party are some of the most powerful people in the world, especially compared to where you were in the first game. And it's not like, a Kestri level over the top boast, and by that point in the game, when she's casting the highest level magic (or at least very close to it if the dialogue happens to fire off really early) she's not wrong.
But when Lily talks about Imoen, it's pretty clear he doesn't see any of that. He also really latches onto the sibling aspect. Which, if you've never played BG might sound reasonable because you assume a certain thing when you hear sibling characters. But the big thing is, Imoen wasn't ever written to be your sibling and that dynamic was never meant to be explored. It's not like Full Metal Alchemist or something similar, where that relationship is like, the heart and soul of the characters. It's really more of a plot convenience, to the point I think if the decision to keep Imoen alive wasn't made last minute, I suspect they would have dropped it entirely, because in the expansion, when she does become a character...that's basically what they do. Like, they pay lip service to it because they have to, but it really feels like they want you to forget it more often than not.
But Lily likes incest. And while he says this:
what he really means to say is the characterization that he makes up is extremely important to him. Lily likes his very specific version of Imoen, which has nothing to do with the actual Imoen. Much like how Lily likes his specific version of WoW that's all about how great his slave owning elf is, not like how the actual WoW story goes. Or how Lily likes his specific version of Star Wars that has nothing to do with actual Star Wars. And, hey, I get it, that's a big part of the appeal of making mods in the first place. It's fan made content. But Lily acts like it's the official version of the character, and ignores the real version in favor for the fanfic version. Or I guess it goes one layer deeper than that, he ignores the real version in favor of his version of the fanfic version.
But really, what it comes down to is the incest of it all. If you kept everything the same but just tweaked it so you weren't siblings and still childhood friends like the original intent for the character, and Lily would have no interest whatsoever in any version of the character, fanfic or official. Which will probably be the TLDR of whatever overly lengthy post I make once his video releases.
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This part alone poisons any credibility this asshole might have on the subject matter because they are extremely clung to THOSE versions of the story that they can't get their dick off their hand for one minute to actually do their damn job. They are obsessed with that fantasy with Courtney; they'll put it everywhere they can. Otherwise, they are not interested in it.
And it is also why they are being incredibly short-sighted with the Imoen video. They want to get a cheap thrill by airing their kinks to the public; they are forgetting for one minute Crispy has and will turn their thrills into the biggest humiliation they could ever get.
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Oh hey, we got a beloved character returning with a brand-new artstyle.
Sorry, I was watching the Shrek 5 trailer. What's the abomination doing?
"What I'm doing is wrong, I know it's wrong, but I'm gonna do it anyway."
Could this be what alienates what little fans she has left?
Funny how Lily hates shows that "torture" characters, yet has this for a backstory.
For context, she compared drag shows to minstrel shows.
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This sounds like a boring as fuck stream already. Where's the hook beyond Peet wanting some validation?
Background noise would be more entertaining.
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Imagine being this much of a faggot that you are this afraid of playing as a male.
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This right here. Is why diction is very important here fellas.
>complains about how men objectify women
>mods every game to have male protagonist to be a woman. Ignores games where there are naturally strong female leads or actual male to female trans characters
Hmmmm why is that CD-Call?
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The thing is, I think if Lily were smarter about it, he could have his sister and fuck her too. He needs to separate the mod from the actual game/character and review it for what it is. Maybe even question whether the original game might actually be flawed in some areas, like how it handles Imoen. For many, many years, BG2 was my favorite and most-played game, and even today I'd say it still sits somewhere on my top 3 list. Really, the only reason I don't list it as number one anymore is I haven't replayed it in years, but part of that is I previously played it so much that there just isn't a way to make it feel fresh. But unlike Lily, I can critically look at the game and acknowledge that it has some flaws and issues, while still immensely enjoying it.
Lily can't do that. It's one of the many reasons Lily is a bad critic, in his mind, everything has to either be a perfect 10/10 or the worst 0/10 ever to blight the world. If he can't even do that, there's no way he can distinguish between what a mod makes good vs. what the base game does. IIRC, when he was pretending to have a BG3 video to release, he actually tried to provide proof for why he thought BG2 was better than BG3 by comparing dialogue, and he posted Imoen dialogue from the mod. He's also cited modded music in the same fashion.
Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know if Lily has ever brought up what he likes/what is good about BG2 without it being in relation to the Imoen romance mod specifically. I feel like if nobody knew anything about the BG games and solely went off of Lily's descriptions, they'd think it was a visual novel style game about an incest romance and not a D&D dungeon delving/divine highlander-esque game that you can approach in tons of different ways thanks to all the party/class/item options available in the game and a fair amount of freedom in where you explore and what quests you do.
But yeah, to circle back to the original point, reviewing mods specifically can be a thing, but it requires you to first be able to review the original material so you can properly compare and contrast. And I think it can be an interesting topic to explore. Without going off on too much of a tangent, not all BG2 mods are bad because they're poorly written fetish slop. There are a few mods that have good content and excellent writing...but actually end up being bad for that, because it overshadows or doesn't insert well into the original content. Or a balance of both, with some mods really capturing the spirit of some characters while butchering others, because again, something that Lily doesn't mention is BG2 actually has more than a single party member. Heck, I could even name some mods that are bad specifically because of how poorly they handle Imoen. But because those mods don't let you romance Imoen, I doubt Lily knows they exist.
Lily is just using BG2 as a shield to discuss what he really cares about. Incest. Which is really what everything boils down to with Lily, thinly veiled excuses to publicly discuss his kinks
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From what I can see, the YouTube livestream is still going, so let's see how long it takes for YouTube to correct itself from the curse that is CD-Call.
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The fact that the stream was only about two and a half hours is very telling of how sick CD-Call is. You'd think all the people that came on to engage would have led to something more entertaining, but no, I don't think that happened here.
It's worse than that: she's making it abundantly clear that she's totally a woman, just like how Mikaila feels the need to emphasize she's a woman who gets off to chibi ass-eating.
And in speaking of Femme-Pepper!
Because walking around butt-naked is funny, apparently.
I haven't seen this kind of on-the-nose nudity as a joke since anime, which is funny because CD-Call hates anime.
And what the fuck do you need to air out? Your gross pussy and asshole that's been eaten out by the genocide enthusiast?
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