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- 19 de Ene, 2020
Yes. Julie was born just before the exodus from earth. Her father died when Costa Rica became uninhabitable, and her mother took her to Canada.
I know I'm asking a stupid question, but does Lily think that environmental collapse works like the movie 2012, where the whole world flash-freezes over the course of a few days?
Also, wiat. She said that the environment collapsed and destroyed massive swaths of the world about fifty years before the exodus? But now Costa Rica imploded only a couple of years before the exodus? And also Cuba is still okay?!
Lily why are you retarded?
Julie's mother was not a very nice person and Julie disliked her immensely. When Lev and Kestri pulled her out of her cryo pod and told her that her mother didn't make it, Julie beamed and clapped excitedly. Lev and Kestri later find out through context clues (Julie being terrified of Kestri when she's in her 'ship's overheating' clothes) that her mother was sexually abusive. This ends up being the reason Kestri becomes more mindful of how she dresses around the kid.
Lily made a big deal about how Canzuk is a lost language that nobody can understand but somehow Julie, who presumably only speaks Canzuk, is able to instantly understand Lev and Kestri.
Lily introduced Kestri's 'overheating' attire just to make a plot point where she gets to imply that a toddler was sexually abused. If I may editorialize-- fuck you, Lily.
And once again Lily is incapable of not going from zero to ninety in three seconds flat. This keeps happening. Lily thinks that making things as terrible and awful as possible is going to prompt an emotional reaction from the audience. 'Sexual abuse' is a magic word for her, same as 'suicide'. If you just throw it out there then the audience is forced to be sad and sympathetic, or forced to react with horror.
Julie is much happier on the ship. Space is cool, Uncle Lev and Auntie Kes are super nice to her, and for the first time ever she has her own bed. She is a very happy girl.
Oh, thank god. Imagine if Julie had contradictory, difficult feelings that her mind is literally too young to process and woke up screaming with nightmares about the memory of her mother's abuse that she cannot understand or communicate to Kes
wait
So what Kestri wears around while the ship is 'overheating' reminds Julie of her mother's sexual assault. So Kestri's 'overheat' weare is so sexually adjacent that it causes a panic attack in this tiny child. And she just wanders around like that on full display for her brother, with whome she is likely sleeping during these occurrences. Cool. That's cool, Lily, definitely no ulterior motives here.
Also, why is the ship overheating so consistently? How much wasted energy are they outputting that this is a constant problem? Why doesn't Kestri just fucking fix it if she's such a great mechanic/engineer? I know the eanswer is literally to make ane xcuse for her to wander around like this but once again Lily is putting a Moment ahead of character and it makes Kestri look incompetent in the field she's allegedly an expert in.
Also...what the fuck? The most we got onCarmenJulie's mother is that Julie remembered her yelling at her one time. Not that, as a baby, she was raped by her mother. I'll repeat...what the fuck.
Yyyyyeah, Lily definitely just thought about this. She had Mikaila draw Kestr in her 'overheating outfit' last week, I think, even though the ship overheating has never been brought up before, and I expect this Ask was sent to herself just to give her ane excuse to talk about this Dakr and Troubled Backstory that she made up a week ago so people know how Edgy and Serious this story is willing to be.
And, really, do we expect Lily of all people to invoke an emotionally manipulative writing tactic like foreshadowing?
Sarcasm aside, it's very funny that Lily hates 'emotional manipulation' but will, as I said above, gladly throw around words lik 'suicide' and 'sexual assault' in order to force a particualr emotional response from the audience. Foreshadowing and implication are 'emotional manipulation', but waving around a literal child who was repeatedly raped by her mother isn't. Suer.
Yeah I think it says something that Lily considers trauma bonds and enmeshment as horrifying yet refuses to portray it as such in her work.
One of the reasons I'm kind of fascinated by Into the Void is because Lily started posting it right around the time I started working on my own novel, focused on a brother and sister who are deeply dependent on each other to survive a hostile world. The brother in particular has sacrificed a lot of his independence and ambitions to help his sister during a long battle with a severe illness, and now internally defines himself largely in relation to her.
The defining difference, other than the two not wanting to fuck each other, is that the narrative understands this is simultaneously a noble act of love and self-sacrifice and also deeply unhealthy and he is not well.
The defining difference, other than the two not wanting to fuck each other, is that the narrative understands this is simultaneously a noble act of love and self-sacrifice and also deeply unhealthy and he is not well.
Meanwhile, Lev's entire life since the moment she was born revolves around Kestri. Watching over Kestri, being with Kestri, traveling with Kestri, sleeping with Kestri. His slavish devotion to her just welled up instantly and he decided from the age of three that nothing mattered to him more than Kestri. There's never been friction or struggle...
...which is kind of my other problem with their 'relationship'. Because Lev has never wanted anything beyond being with Kestri, it means that he has never had to choose Kestri. He's just programmed to love her more than anything else in his life ever, and it makes the whole relationship incredibly shallow. If Lev actually had wanted to settle down with a girl on the station but chose Kestri instead, it would mean something-- not just that he loves her in some weird, vague way, but that maybe he believes so much in her dream he's willing to do this, or he wants to help her escape the station and he's willing to give up a real life that he was establishing.
Lily almost flirts with this by the end of the draft, where Kestri thinks about how she wanted to have an Old World wedding and find a husband and have a family (which flies in the face of her ruminations about how she never wanted to be a mother, now that I think about it), but it's also not a matter of her choosing Lev, either, because she didn't actually care about anybody else on the station. It was a vague romantic dream she never actually bothered pursuing past the age of nine, and when Lev proposed they leave she responded with an instant "FUCK YES!" and not, like... hesitation or uncertainty. Choices only matter if an alternative exists.
And of course, it's Kestri who gets the opportunity to consider independence. Lev is her dog. Kestri is allowed to think, even briefly, about a life without him, but Lev is never allowed to think about a life without her.
