Is it ok to spoil things that are old?

Oedipus killed his father, married his mother, and ripped out his own eyes when he found out what he’d done.

Bitch, you’ve had over 2400 years to see it!
 
Personally, I don't like it even when it's old, mostly because it kinda ruins it for younger people who weren't alive for it and weren't aware of it to begin with.

2 examples from my personal life: I had The Sixth Sense spoiled thanks to IGN casually comparing the twist to the plot of Assassin's Creed 1. I wasn't allowed to see movies like The Sixth Sense at that point, and IGN just straight up gave the twist away, which really annoyed me.

The other one was Fight Club, which was spoiled thanks to endless Cracked articles talking about it.

Now both of these are still excellent even disregarding the twist, I just wonder if I hadn't known about it would my first experience reading/watching them have been better. Because when I was reading Fight Club, all I could think about was the twist. Same with Sixth Sense. And I don't like that feeling unless it's a second viewing.
 
I'd say yes, provided that it has been translated into the language you are speaking. Its a dick move to do it for stuff that hasn't been put into, for me, English yet though. The plots to works of art such as movies, film, etc. are part of our shared cultural heritage and it is only natural that they enter the general vernacular.

edit: Special exception is when a previously obscure thing is remade, I.E. Game of Thrones. People who intentionally go around spoiling stuff are fuckers who deserve to be fucked.
 
I tend to have a 1 year rule when it comes to media, if it's a year since it's launch I think that's reasonable that if you wanted to see it in the cinema or when it air'd but didn't get a chance to do so it gives you a year to catch up, that's before I start talking about it conversationally with friends.

It's a different kettle of fish when someone says "Oh hey Rav, I finally got around to watching, listening to, reading that thing you recommended me prety cool dude" then I switch over to my don't spoil it for them mode find out where they are upto and talk about that.

But if it's something like the original Blade Runner and I say, Wasn't it a bit of a mind fuck when you worked out Deckard was a replicant and it's a film, book or show of that cultural magnitude and it's been over 20 years and you haven't seen it or spend 90% of the film on your phone (fucking pet peeve of mine) you kinda sorta have it coming.
 
FitBitch dijo:
Abraham Lincoln was shot in the head at Ford Theater by John Wilkes Booth.
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Wow, fuck you for spoiling the Lincoln Presidency for me
Just for that, JFK dies in Dallas by Lee Harvey Oswald, who gets shot by Jack Ruby, fucking cunt.

Seriously though I agree with Ravenor on a certain amount of time needs to pass for spoilers to be good, although I'd say 6 months is enough time.
But then again I'm one of those people who doesn't give a shit about a movie being spoilered, mostly because they usually don't spoil the whole movie anyway.
 
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Burgers in the ass dijo:
Wow, fuck you for spoiling the Lincoln Presidency for me
Just for that, JFK dies in Dallas by Lee Harvey Oswald, who gets shot by Jack Ruby, fucking faggot.

Seriously though I agree with Ravenor on a certain amount of time needs to pass for spoilers to be good, although I'd say 6 months is enough time.
But then again I'm one of those people who doesn't give a shit about a movie being spoilered, mostly because they usually don't spoil the whole movie anyway.
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Jeeze man, I was just getting started on the JFK Presidency!
You know what? Fuck you, Trump beats Clinton in 2016 in the electoral college even though he loses the popular vote.
 
It really depends

If someone goes "Well I never watched any of the Friday the 13th movies, but i'm starting them this Saturday" and then you spoil the ending to a few of them then you're a bit of a ass.

If you accidentally run across a spoiler on a piece of media you planned on getting around to viewing on the internet, TV, or whatever you can't complain.

So no, don't give someone spoilers unless they ask.
 
I have never gave a shit about spoilers...

Tyler Durden is the Narrator/Jack.
The corpse in the room is Jigsaw.
The witches in the Three Mothers Trilogy always die stupid easy.
 
What makes a spoiler a spoiler, is that they, well, "spoil" the work for various people. For example, one would be anxious to watch a movie that is generally considered to be of superior quality, in which there is a "secret" ending (most likely after the credits) that just blows one away.

Now, imagine, if someone just told that one what the secret ending was. One would still be able to watch the film, but when he does see the secret ending, it simply won't have the same effect as if he viewed it "unspoiled".

But time heals all wounds. And as the movie becomes more well known, and its plot points becomes more well-documented, any "spoilers" coming from it at that point will have a very dulled and blunted effect, in sharp contrast to when the movie was "fresh". This is because watching the movie, at this point, is something more of an academic, intellectual interest, as opposed to when the movie was THE NEXT BIG THING.

Personally, I give any given work of fiction a year before the plot points become sufficiently ingrained into the collective cultural consciousness that one can spoil it without significant consequence (as significant a consequence spoiling can bring, anyway).
 
i agree especially on the internet where time has no meaning
i could enjoy a meme that is 8 years old as much as i enjoy a fresh meme
so a spoiler is a spoiler
now that being said
to me i don't seem to mind that much
my favorite show on this planet is berserk
and i didn't watch it until someone spoiled the golden age arc for me
if it aint a mystery show\movie
i don't mind spoilers but im an autist so idk
 
I somehow knew Darth Vader was Luke's father before I even got to see the movies.

Personally, I believe a spoiler doesn't necessarily ruin everything since you need to find out the context behind the spoiler. I got spoiled on Persona 4 when the killer's identity became a meme but when I played more, I realized there's more to the plot than just that reveal.
 
I think it's generally easy to understand if a person is okay with being spoiled on something. Especially if they have no interest in watching or reading it themselves.

Also, my personal opinion is that if something is only enjoyable if you don't know what's going to happen it's probably not good to begin with.
 
AnOminous dijo:
Oedipus killed his father, married his mother, and ripped out his own eyes when he found out what he’d done.

Bitch, you’ve had over 2400 years to see it!
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His daughter tried to respect the corpse of her rotting brother too; thanks to the hubris of the king (her uncle) She hangs herself and her intended fiancé/cousin killed himself at the end of the play.

Oh, I recently told my mom's friend the synopsis and villain of Incredibles 2. she still wants to watch the film AND wants to go to the movies with me.
 
The Incredible s 2? Star Wars? Jigsaw?

Obviously spoilers hardly matter when the media is ass but what about for good media? To finally put forward my point, I think truly great shows that don't have asspull surprise/twist or have an actually really great buildup to something excellent are going to be negatively impacted by a spoiler. A spoil won't "spoil" it in the sense of ruining and making it unusable but it'll hurt the experience.

The subjectivity on what is good means spoiling overall is just being a dick.
 
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