Incels.is (Previously known as /r/incels) - Subreddit's banned, entitled Manchildren whine about why they can't get laid.

[Zonga]

And that physicist's name? Charles Darwin.

And that name's Charles Darwin? David Hasselhof.

 

[TheRatcatcher]

I plan on writing a sci-fi story about an incel caliphate ruling over the United States.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

I plan on writing a sci-fi story about an incel caliphate ruling over the United States.

Dude, someone already wrote The Handmaid's Tale.

 

[bluegenius8585]

I plan on writing a sci-fi story about an incel caliphate ruling over the United States.

I still doubt they would get laid in that environment.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The sperg and incel overlap is absolutely huge. They aren't just dateless, they are without any friends in real life in many cases. Many are working low wage jobs or supported by their parents income. If any group has ''nothing to lose'' it would be many of them. Of any internet subculture members acting violently in real life they're about the most likely to do it.

So what can be done about this issue?

 

[Overcast]

The sperg and incel overlap is absolutely huge. They aren't just dateless, they are without any friends in real life in many cases. Many are working low wage jobs or supported by their parents income. If any group has ''nothing to lose'' it would many of them. Of any internet subculture members acting violently in real life they're about the most likely to do it.

So what can be done about this issue?

You mean besides better parenting?

Nothing really. These people have to help themselves if they ever want to get out of the rut they're in. If they ever do act violently, all we can do is just let the system we currently have handle them and let them be seen as an example to others on how not to act.

 

[Raisin_Licker]

Not sure if this is the right thread but...

9 years ago I went to an archery program after school that was provided by the school. There was about 20 people there and a guy 1 year older than me decided to force his acquaintance. I'm not a rude person and I dont judge people based on superficial things such as looks or clothes. We remain as somewhat friends for the duration of the archery program. I already had a group of friends in school so would always hangout with them. My brother played football and I would never go to sporting events but my whole family decided to go to this game as it was his last game of his senior year. I was sitting with my family and the guy from archery (we'll call him "CAL") came up to me and proceeds to ask me to sit with him. I agree and I begin walking to the student section, i look back at my family to see them laughing because of his appearance. I'll just say hes a basic overweight guy with a neckbeard and pimples. We become better friends and he begins constantly coming up to me at school. We end up going to the same community college and he becomes weirder than what I already knew he was. He begins using the phrase "gimme cheesecake" and "I want cheese" every time he sees me on campus and proceeds to lick me. I recall running into the bathroom on one occasion because he tried to lick my face. HE FOLLOWED ME INTO THE WOMENS BATHROOM. Anyways after the weird encounters I begin to ignore him and to this day he still messages me on Facebook. I can provide messages but I dont know if this is the right place. I would 100% say hes a incel.

 

[Raisin_Licker]

Not sure if this is the right thread but...

9 years ago I went to an archery program after school that was provided by the school. There was about 20 people there and a guy 1 year older than me decided to force his acquaintance. I'm not a rude person and I dont judge people based on superficial things such as looks or clothes. We remain as somewhat friends for the duration of the archery program. I already had a group of friends in school so would always hangout with them. My brother played football and I would never go to sporting events but my whole family decided to go to this game as it was his last game of his senior year. I was sitting with my family and the guy from archery (we'll call him "CAL") came up to me and proceeds to ask me to sit with him. I agree and I begin walking to the student section, i look back at my family to see them laughing because of his appearance. I'll just say hes a basic overweight guy with a neckbeard and pimples. We become better friends and he begins constantly coming up to me at school. We end up going to the same community college and he becomes weirder than what I already knew he was. He begins using the phrase "gimme cheesecake" and "I want cheese" every time he sees me on campus and proceeds to lick me. I recall running into the bathroom on one occasion because he tried to lick my face. HE FOLLOWED ME INTO THE WOMENS BATHROOM. Anyways after the weird encounters I begin to ignore him and to this day he still messages me on Facebook. I can provide messages but I dont know if this is the right place. I would 100% say hes a incel.

Not sure if it's worth pointing out but my family still makes fun of me to this day for going to sit with him at the football game even though they encouraged me to as to not be rude. Also he came to my graduation (hes a year above me so had already graduated) and photobombed a bunch my of my family photos and forced me to take pictures with him. He used to work at the local Walmart and always run up to me and force a hug. Many times I would be shopping with my mom and she would have to hold in her laughs. For my family to still laugh about him should give you an idea of how bad he looks.

 

[Margo Martindale]

Was browsing the Russel Greer thread and found this guy, abandoned by his parents just like Greer, yet turned out completely opposite. Incels have no excuse, if you work hard on overcoming your faults instead of complaining you can find a decent partner.

 

[DumbDude42]

The sperg and incel overlap is absolutely huge. They aren't just dateless, they are without any friends in real life in many cases. Many are working low wage jobs or supported by their parents income. If any group has ''nothing to lose'' it would be many of them. Of any internet subculture members acting violently in real life they're about the most likely to do it.

So what can be done about this issue?

the issue is caused by so many deep-set societal problems coming together, it's basically impossibly to come up with a specific solution. fixing it would have to involve a massive and collective change of attitudes and views among the wider population ("normies") which realistically isn't ever going to happen unless some extreme form of upheaval happens and rocks the very foundations of our society

 

[JaneThough]

the issue is caused by so many deep-set societal problems coming together, it's basically impossibly to come up with a specific solution. fixing it would have to involve a massive and collective change of attitudes and views among the wider population ("normies") which realistically isn't ever going to happen unless some extreme form of upheaval happens and rocks the very foundations of our society

Ahh yes. Incels are unhappy so the whole world needs to change for them. Not like they can do anything to pull themselves out of it.

 

[redcent]

the issue is caused by so many deep-set societal problems coming together, it's basically impossibly to come up with a specific solution. fixing it would have to involve a massive and collective change of attitudes and views among the wider population ("normies") which realistically isn't ever going to happen unless some extreme form of upheaval happens and rocks the very foundations of our society

Ahh yes. Incels are unhappy so the whole world needs to change for them. Not like they can do anything to pull themselves out of it.

I think it's the best of both worlds.

The world isn't responsible for incels being psychos, they need to clean up their own act and get their head out of their asses

However society, in particular the media needs to quit some things that contribute to the incel mindset I. E. They have to get laid or else they're a loser, things like that. Not some massive upheavel though

 

[Margo Martindale]

I think it's the best of both worlds.

The world isn't responsible for incels being psychos, they need to clean up their own act and get their head out of their asses

However society, in particular the media needs to quit some things that contribute to the incel mindset I. E. They have to get laid or else they're a loser, things like that. Not some massive upheavel though

Definitely agree on that last part. In general, sex has been squeezed into any cranny they can in media and advertising, because it gets more viewers.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Was browsing the Russel Greer thread and found this guy, abandoned by his parents just like Greer, yet turned out completely opposite. Incels have no excuse, if you work hard on overcoming your faults instead of complaining you can find a decent partner.

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That guy is fucking shredded holy shit. Just goes to show a little self-improvement and some confident dating strategy can overcome any obstacle.

 

[DumbDude42]

Ahh yes. Incels are unhappy so the whole world needs to change for them. Not like they can do anything to pull themselves out of it.

I think it's the best of both worlds.

The world isn't responsible for incels being psychos, they need to clean up their own act and get their head out of their asses

However society, in particular the media needs to quit some things that contribute to the incel mindset I. E. They have to get laid or else they're a loser, things like that. Not some massive upheavel though

it goes WAY deeper than surface level "dude just stop being lonely lmao" faux advice or "just make media less sexualized" ideas

like, people have mentioned before how shitty parenting is the source of much of this situation, in particular absent or cucked/weak fathers combined with domineering and abusive (and often single) mothers. how do you even begin to fix this? you'd have to look at the societal shifts that created all these dysfunctional broken homes in the first place, and these developments go back more than half a century so good luck fixing them.
and that's JUST the parenting side of things, which is part of the problem but not the whole story. in addition to that you'd also have to look at somehow curing the cancer that is contemporary pop culture and youth culture, as well as bringing overall gender relations out of the current near dystopian mess they are and back to something that is workable and functional

and it's not just about incels either: this overall situation churns out thoroughly ruined men by the truckload. some end up as incels, some become cucks who simp for twitch whores, some drown themselves in anime escapism and become waifu obsessed weebs, some go with the "failed as a man, try again as a girl" delusion and troon out - but the root causes, the core underlying issues, are almost exactly the same for all of these groups, and they run so deep that no amount of superficial platitudes and armchair advice will do anything about any of this

 

[LargeChoonger]

Where's the rape option on the vote? Consent is for faggots

 

[Zonga]

it goes WAY deeper than surface level "dude just stop being lonely lmao" faux advice or "just make media less sexualized" ideas

like, people have mentioned before how shitty parenting is the source of much of this situation, in particular absent or cucked/weak fathers combined with domineering and abusive (and often single) mothers. how do you even begin to fix this? you'd have to look at the societal shifts that created all these dysfunctional broken homes in the first place, and these developments go back more than half a century so good luck fixing them.
and that's JUST the parenting side of things, which is part of the problem but not the whole story. in addition to that you'd also have to look at somehow curing the cancer that is contemporary pop culture and youth culture, as well as bringing overall gender relations out of the current near dystopian mess they are and back to something that is workable and functional

and it's not just about incels either: this overall situation churns out thoroughly ruined men by the truckload. some end up as incels, some become cucks who simp for twitch whores, some drown themselves in anime escapism and become waifu obsessed weebs, some go with the "failed as a man, try again as a girl" delusion and troon out - but the root causes, the core underlying issues, are almost exactly the same for all of these groups, and they run so deep that no amount of superficial platitudes and armchair advice will do anything about any of this

Still wouldn't help. Men, for the most part, are disposable. This fact is biologically hardwired into most multicellular life, at least in species that don't naturally change gender as a response to environmental cues.

Humans have a weird trick that you don't see elsewhere in nature, where we have two tracks for evolutionary development - one genetic, the other memetic/cultural - but even that hasn't solved the basic problem.

Biologically, in mammals such as humans, females are necessary to gestate and nurture the next generation. Males just exist for the sake of genetic experimentation. "The system works" by overproducing males, amplifying the phenotypical expressions of their genetic differences, and then forcing them to compete with each other to see which of those expressions outperform the rest. Then those top performers get to be the center of the pack, and the rest of the males get driven off or killed.

Obviously this is a gross oversimplification, but it's still one of the Lego blocks we have to build our species out of.

Human civilization is a weird abberation, genetically. Agriculture and technology and culture give us the capacity to overcome genetics, to a certain degree. But even with these tools, we still have the dismal statistics that 50% of women contribute genetically to the next generation, but only something like 15% of men.

Between war, dangerous jobs, and lack of interest in social support, men are encouraged to go risk their lives, in the unconscious hope that they'll get themselves and each other killed. That way the survivors are likely to be tough enough to deserve to pass on their genes and their wisdom to the next generation.

All of this is about as awful as botflies and smallpox, of course, so like botflies and smallpox, we've tried to do something about it. And the best solution we found so far was Western Civilization, with its monogamy and its explicit partiarchy and its exploitation and externalization of harm onto whatever cultures it could conquer. And because this is still reality, it was still bloody and brutal and unfair. But it kind of worked, or at least worked a little better than the genetic "factory defaults".

But now we're dismantling a lot of that, because cultural memetic evolution is ultimately just as blind as genetic evolution; it just works a lot faster so it's more responsive at human timescales. And it's actually true that Western Civilization evolved to handle an environment without nuclear weapons or the internet or birth control, and these are actually Big Deals.

But when we throw out Western Civilization in an attempt to use our Big Brains to come up with something better, since we don't ALREADY have something better, what we get are the factory defaults. Which means that a bunch of young males are fucking useless. And since we are in a time of unprecedented peace and safety and freedom, we don't have any good wars or dangerous situations to kill them with. So they stick around, and become cucks or incels or troons.

The problem is that evolution doesn't care. It spent almost 4 billion years fucking around with DNA until it accidentally created beings with a soul, but the soul is basically an accidental by-product of its goal of making self-replicating badasses. But one of the things about having a soul, is that you tend to care about other things that have souls. So the ultimate idea of "four fifths of you fuckers are worthless and need to die" actually makes us squeamish.

What we CAN handle is "one fifth of you fuckers are so worthless that you're actually harmful, and if you kill yourselves we won't feel too bad about it, and some of us can sublimate the pain we do feel into contempt for you."

So here we are.

 

[redcent]

it goes WAY deeper than surface level "dude just stop being lonely lmao" faux advice or "just make media less sexualized" ideas

like, people have mentioned before how shitty parenting is the source of much of this situation, in particular absent or cucked/weak fathers combined with domineering and abusive (and often single) mothers. how do you even begin to fix this? you'd have to look at the societal shifts that created all these dysfunctional broken homes in the first place, and these developments go back more than half a century so good luck fixing them.
and that's JUST the parenting side of things, which is part of the problem but not the whole story. in addition to that you'd also have to look at somehow curing the cancer that is contemporary pop culture and youth culture, as well as bringing overall gender relations out of the current near dystopian mess they are and back to something that is workable and functional

and it's not just about incels either: this overall situation churns out thoroughly ruined men by the truckload. some end up as incels, some become cucks who simp for twitch whores, some drown themselves in anime escapism and become waifu obsessed weebs, some go with the "failed as a man, try again as a girl" delusion and troon out - but the root causes, the core underlying issues, are almost exactly the same for all of these groups, and they run so deep that no amount of superficial platitudes and armchair advice will do anything about any of this

There are shitty parents everywhere. It's not just the blokes who get them, how about all the women who had shitty fathers? How about all the ruined women? The ones who go homeless or drug addicted because Daddy bashes their face in or touches them? How about the women who's Dad abandons them because he just had to go find a younger woman than her mother? It goes on.

Want to fix shitty parenting? Encourage people not to fuck psychos, therefore no kids born to psycho parents. So, woe and behold, when women do that, incels reeeeing and crying that no one will fuck them and how dare women have rights to say no, because they can't handle the truth, that they're the one who's in the wrong

But hey if you want to expand trying to fix things beyond media, all for it. Try teaching kids in schools maybe? I'm all ears.

 

[Buer]

it goes WAY deeper than surface level "dude just stop being lonely lmao" faux advice or "just make media less sexualized" ideas

like, people have mentioned before how shitty parenting is the source of much of this situation, in particular absent or cucked/weak fathers combined with domineering and abusive (and often single) mothers. how do you even begin to fix this? you'd have to look at the societal shifts that created all these dysfunctional broken homes in the first place, and these developments go back more than half a century so good luck fixing them.
and that's JUST the parenting side of things, which is part of the problem but not the whole story. in addition to that you'd also have to look at somehow curing the cancer that is contemporary pop culture and youth culture, as well as bringing overall gender relations out of the current near dystopian mess they are and back to something that is workable and functional

and it's not just about incels either: this overall situation churns out thoroughly ruined men by the truckload. some end up as incels, some become cucks who simp for twitch whores, some drown themselves in anime escapism and become waifu obsessed weebs, some go with the "failed as a man, try again as a girl" delusion and troon out - but the root causes, the core underlying issues, are almost exactly the same for all of these groups, and they run so deep that no amount of superficial platitudes and armchair advice will do anything about any of this

Could also be because of living in a single parent household with no father in sight. That would mess any child up when it comes to dating. But pointing this out would sound sexist to a lot of people because I'm putting most of the blame on the mom and not the absent father. And I'm not talking about the women who then went on to marry men who are not the father of their children and somehow makes it work. I'm talking about the ones who just can't seem to settle with any lone man so they jump from man to man and the relationships don't last that long. What lessons could her children even learn from her about dating besides what not to do? And even then the girls she's raising would more than likely make the same mistakes. And the boys would fare much worse since again no father in sight and their mother isn't exactly going to be able to give then any useful advice. Like all of her advice for her boys would be bad since she more than likely has a bitter attitude towards men.

 

[Ginger Piglet]

I'm talking about the ones who just can't seem to settle with any lone man so they jump from man to man and the relationships don't last that long. What lessons could her children even learn from her about dating besides what not to do? And even then the girls she's raising would more than likely make the same mistakes. And the boys would fare much worse since again no father in sight and their mother isn't exactly going to be able to give then any useful advice.

This probably explains the whole "cock carousel" theory. Because they assume their mother did that until she found someone stupid enough to get her up the stick, then she's just back on it again. Ergo, all women are like that.