Culture I resign from the Freedom from Religion Foundation - It's because of trannies. It's always because of trannies

This is the result of a dispute I’ve explained before (see here). Because the FFRF has caved into to gender extremism, an area having nothing to do with its mission, and because, when they let me post an article on their website about this, they changed their mind and simply removed my post, I have decided I can no longer remain a member of their board of honorary directors. So be it. Everything is explained in this email I sent FFRF co-Presidents Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker about an hour ago, to wit:

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan,

As you probably expected, I am going resign my position on the honorary board of the FFRF. I do this with great sadness, for you know that I have been a big supporter of your organization for years, and was honored to receive not only your Emperor Has No Clothes Award, but also that position on your honorary board.

But because you took down my article that critiqued Kat Grant’s piece, which amounts to quashing discussion of a perfectly discuss-able issue, and in fact had previously agreed that I could publish that piece—not a small amount of work—and then put it up after a bit of editing, well, that is a censorious behavior I cannot abide. I was simply promoting a biological rather than a psychological definition of sex, and I do not understand why you would consider that “distressing” and also an attempt to hurt LGBTQIA+ people, which I would never do.

As I said, I think these folks should have moral and legal rights identical to those of other groups, except in the rare cases in which LGBTQIA+ rights conflict with the rights of other groups, in which case some kind of adjudication is necessary. But your announcement about the “mistake” of publishing my piece also implies that what I wrote was transphobic.

Further, when I emailed Annie Laurie asking why my piece had disappeared (before the “official announcement” of revocation was issued), I didn’t even get the civility of a response. Is that the way you treat a member of the honorary board?

I always wanted to be on the board so I could help steer the FFRF: I didn’t think of it as a job without any remit. The only actions I’ve taken have been to write to both of you—sometimes in conjunction with Steve, Dan (Dennett), or Richard—warning of the dangers of mission creep, of violating your stated goals to adhere to “progressive” political or ideological positions. Mission creep was surely instantiated in your decision to cancel my piece when its discussion of biology and its relationship to sex in humans violated “progressive” gender ideology. This was in fact the third time that I and others have tried to warn the FFRF about the dangers of expanding its mission into political territory. But it is now clear that this is exactly what you intend to do. Our efforts have been fruitless, and if there are bad consequences I don’t want to be connected with them.

I will add one more thing. The gender ideology which caused you to take down my article is itself quasi-religious, having many aspects of religions and cults, including dogma, blasphemy, belief in what is palpably untrue (“a woman is whoever she says she is”), apostasy, and a tendency to ignore science when it contradicts a preferred ideology.

I will continue to struggle for the separation of church and state, and wish you well in that endeavor, which I know you will continue. But I cannot be part of an organization whose mission creep has led it to actually remove my words from the internet—words that I cannot see as harmful to any rational person. I am not out to hurt LGBTQIA+ people, and I hope you know that. But you have implied otherwise, and that is both shameful for you and hurtful for me.

Cordially
Jerry

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Another one leaves the fold: Steve Pinker resigns from the Freedom from Religion Foundation


Like me, Steve Pinker has resigned from the Honorary Board of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF). His resignation was sent yesterday. Steve is a bigger macher than I. both intellectually and, in this case, because he was Honorary President of that Board. I put below his two emails, reproduced with permission.

The first one was sent yesterday to the co-Presidents of the FFRF as well as the editor of Freethought Today!, which originally published my piece and then removed it.

From: Pinker, Steven
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 11:49 AM
Subject: resignation

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan,

With sadness, I resign from my positions as Honorary President and member of the Honorary Board of the Freedom from Religion Foundation. The reason is obvious: your decision, announced yesterday, to censor an article by fellow Board member Jerry Coyne, and to slander him as an opponent of LGBTQIA+ rights.

My letter to you last November (reproduced below) explains why I think these are grave errors. With this action, the Foundation is no longer a defender of freedom from religion but the imposer of a new religion, complete with dogma, blasphemy, and heretics. It has turned its back on reason: if your readers “wrongfully perceive” the opposite of a clear statement that you support the expression of contesting opinions, the appropriate response is to stand by your statement, not ratify their error. It has turned the names Freethought Today and Freethought Now into sad jokes, inviting ridicule from its worse foes. And it has shown contempt for the reasoned advice of its own board members.

There are not the values of not the organization I have supported for twenty years, and I can no longer be associated with it.

Sincerely,
Steve

*************

As Steve notes above, this second letter was sent over a month ago to the same people, with copies to me and Richard Dawkins, as all of us were discussing the issue of “mission creep” with the FFRF.

From: Pinker, Steven
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Comment for FFRF

Thanks, Annie Laurie. But I think it’s important to distinguish two things:

1. The right to bodily autonomy, an ethical issue.

2. The nature of sex in the living world, a scientific issue.

Some trans activists believe that the only way to ensure the first is to rewrite the second, imposing what we regard as fallacious and tendentious claims in defiance of our best scientific understanding. This is unfortunate for two reasons: it’s a conceptual error, confusing the moral and the empirical, and it’s counterproductive to force people to choose between trans rights and scientific reality. Those who favor scientific reality will be alienated from the cause of safeguarding trans rights.

I see FFRF as in the vanguard of separating key moral and political commitments from honest scientific inquiry (after all, a major impetus for enshrining religious doctrine such as creationism is that it is necessary for the preservation of moral values). Many people have noted that the radical factions of the trans movement have taken on some of the worst features of religion, such as the imposition of dogma and the excommunication and vilification of heretics. FFRF can be firmly on the side of trans rights without advancing tendentious (and almost certainly false) biological claims. Of course, it’s fine for views that we regard as tendentious to be expressed in FFRF forums, as long as respectful disagreements are allowed to be expressed as well.

Best,
Steve

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A third one leaves the fold: Richard Dawkins resigns from the Freedom from Religion Foundation

Well, that makes three of us. Steve Pinker, I, and now Richard Dawkins, have all decided independently to resign from the Honorary Board of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF). The organization’s ideological capture, as instantiated in throwing in their lot with extreme gender activism and censoring any objection to their views—as well as in the increasing tendency of the FFRF to add Critical Social Justice to their mission alongside their original and admirable goal of keeping church and state separate, has motivated us in different degrees to part ways with the group. I emphasize again that the FFRF did and still does engage in important work on keeping religion from creeping into governmental activity.

Richard explains his decision in the email below, sent not long ago to the heads of the FFRF. I, for one, hope that these resignations might make the FFRF rethink its direction.

I reproduce Richard’s very civil resignation with his permission:

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan

It is with real sadness, because of my personal regard for you both, that I feel obliged to resign from the Advisory Board of FFRF. Publishing the silly and unscientific “What is a Woman” article by Kat Grant was a minor error of judgment, redeemed by the decision to publish a rebuttal by a distinguished scientist from the relevant field of Biology, Jerry Coyne. But alas, the sequel was an act of unseemly panic when you caved in to hysterical squeals from predictable quarters and retrospectively censored that excellent rebuttal. Moreover, to summarily take it down without even informing the author of your intention was an act of lamentable discourtesy to a member of your own Advisory Board. A Board which I now leave with regret.

Although I formally resign, I would like to remain on friendly terms with you, and I look forward to cooperating in the future. And to delightful musical evenings if the opportunity arises.

Yours sincerely
Richard

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A few years back I noticed that there was, with some notable exceptions, a break between the 'activist' atheists and scientist atheists
It’s happened right across the board. I stopped going to the local Skeptic Society events here in Bongland as they’d pretty much become an extension of the fucking Green Party, a bunch of paedophile apologists who couldn’t be any more anti-science (unless it suits their dogma obvs).

If said this before, but the who movement is utterly pozzed and needs to split. Sadly we don’t have the fun libertarian types who enjoy to party and don’t have purity spirals like in the US.
 
someone should really start tallying all of the communities that got ruined turned into valid heckin safespaces for valid transfolk by unchecked troon incursions. I swear this isn't the first time something like this happened
Be quicker to make a list of those that didn't. I'll start:
1) Kiwi Farms
2) ???

FFRF’s membership has grown much larger since then—from roughly 20,000 in 2013 to about 40,000 in 2024
Is that nationally or internationally? Either way those are some weak numbers.
 
Any atheist who has managed to see through the religion they were raised in should be smart enough to see through gender ideology. Those who can't either have a vested interest in pushing it or are willfully ignorant like the religious.
Keep in mind there exists non-believers who were never raised with religion. There is a BIG difference between someone who learns religion and rejects it and someone who never even seriously considered the concept. A lot of what is happening here is the old school atheists don't recognize godlessness and atheism aren't the same thing. "There is no god" can be a dogma too.
 
I presume Libertarians already had their troon takeover? I know militant vegans got invaded early.
online support group for a female specific health issue that literally cannot happen to troons
I've seen troons bitterly complaining that they should get to join support groups for women with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS). You might ask: how can they have malfunctioning ovaries, when they don't have ovaries at all? Wow, what a TRANSPHOBIC question you fucking Nazi!
 
I presume Libertarians already had their troon takeover? I know militant vegans got invaded early.
I think the Libertarian party got took over by paedophiles, but the rugged individual can reject things like that, and go there own way, and not do things like read the Book of Enoch for tiny amounts of money on their podcast whilst hiding being an atheist and dropping hints they’re trad orthodox to appeal to /pol/tards.
 
I presume Libertarians already had their troon takeover? I know militant vegans got invaded early.

I've seen troons bitterly complaining that they should get to join support groups for women with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome (PCOS). You might ask: how can they have malfunctioning ovaries, when they don't have ovaries at all? Wow, what a TRANSPHOBIC question you fucking Nazi!

Imagine pooners in a support group for testicular torsion or erectile dysfunction or something. Lmao.
 
I think the Libertarian party got took over by paedophiles, but the rugged individual can reject things like that, and go there own way, and not do things like read the Book of Enoch for tiny amounts of money on their podcast whilst hiding being an atheist and dropping hints they’re trad orthodox to appeal to /pol/tards.
They ran a Bible Gay for president this tine around, so, yeah.
 
Science isn't a religion; nor is being an atheist about having a dogma at all.
The way science was initially conceived, maybe.

Science as interpreted and understood by the lay masses is a new religion. You don't have to go far to see this is the case, when you can look at anything from trannies to COVID vax supporters claiming that "science supports their position", and being able to show supposed evidence that it does.
 
The way science was initially conceived, maybe.

Science as interpreted and understood by the lay masses is a new religion. You don't have to go far to see this is the case, when you can look at anything from trannies to COVID vax supporters claiming that "science supports their position", and being able to show supposed evidence that it does.
Only people unfamiliar with the Sciences think this. They know what they know, and they don't know much - and that's OK, they don't have to. Being familiar with .05% of the Sciences and using that as a yard stick to gauge their understanding is typical. It has been that way for a very long time and will only get more like this as the requirement to use science and math in life is reduced further to near non-existence by assisting technologies.

It's just ignorance; but the idea they are familiar with the true scope of science is stupidity. And for those who claim they do not need to know and yet demand they can comment - that is arrogance.
 
"In the battle for souls, I chose to join a group opposed to God's Kingdom, and now demons have taken over, how could this happen?"
The leopard we brought in ate my face! How could this happen?!

The Adversary is the original master manipulator, spiritual warfare is real, and we're seeing the results of it in real-time.
 
It’s happened right across the board. I stopped going to the local Skeptic Society events here in Bongland as they’d pretty much become an extension of the fucking Green Party, a bunch of paedophile apologists who couldn’t be any more anti-science (unless it suits their dogma obvs).

If said this before, but the who movement is utterly pozzed and needs to split. Sadly we don’t have the fun libertarian types who enjoy to party and don’t have purity spirals like in the US.
It's all merged into omnicause. I should probably sperg about it in one of the threads in the Stinkditch since the common thread is trans.

It's interesting to see the accommodating but firm people peeling off the communities they built or supported because they refuse to go along with obvious bullshit. Dawkins was on their shitlist for ages, Pinker probably raised hackles by daring to suggest the world isn't in a death spiral as billions of black transwomen sex workers of color are murdered daily, but Coyne is fairly low profile guy in comparison. What he said in that article is nothing he hasn't been saying for years now.

I should see if Dillahunty has whined on his call in show about how terrible it is that these awful old men refuse to suck the gock.
 
I will add one more thing. The gender ideology which caused you to take down my article is itself quasi-religious, having many aspects of religions and cults, including dogma, blasphemy, belief in what is palpably untrue (“a woman is whoever she says she is”), apostasy, and a tendency to ignore science when it contradicts a preferred ideology.
We on the slightly more religious and definitely more Right side of this have been pointing this out for years, decades. It's as Goya wrote, "The sleep of reason produces monsters," and these particular monsters look for all in the world like scary, ugly, mutilated men in drag.
 
Romans 6:23
“For the wages of sin is death…”

In this case, death being trannies.

Accept Christ, reject trannies and cringe euphoric atheists
 
Reddit /r atheism is having a meltdown with this and gone full TRA (not surprising). Someone even mentioned Sam Harris who is also questioning it and they seemed to just chalk it up to "old people can't learn new things." It amazes me how the people who claim "Follow the science" are turning against scientist speaking out against it as if they are ignorant of biology.
 
This is because the transgender movement is about forcing TRANSHUMANISM down our throats. Tech moguls and tech companies with their billions won't support any organization that doesn't suck up to TRANSHUMANISM. They also have a stranglehold on all internet platforms and media companies, obviously, so that means the tranny agenda will be forced on us regardless of what we do or don't do.
Shame we get this retarded shit instead of cool robot bodies with jetpacks :(
 
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