Culture I resign from the Freedom from Religion Foundation - It's because of trannies. It's always because of trannies

This is the result of a dispute I’ve explained before (see here). Because the FFRF has caved into to gender extremism, an area having nothing to do with its mission, and because, when they let me post an article on their website about this, they changed their mind and simply removed my post, I have decided I can no longer remain a member of their board of honorary directors. So be it. Everything is explained in this email I sent FFRF co-Presidents Annie Laurie Gaylor and Dan Barker about an hour ago, to wit:

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan,

As you probably expected, I am going resign my position on the honorary board of the FFRF. I do this with great sadness, for you know that I have been a big supporter of your organization for years, and was honored to receive not only your Emperor Has No Clothes Award, but also that position on your honorary board.

But because you took down my article that critiqued Kat Grant’s piece, which amounts to quashing discussion of a perfectly discuss-able issue, and in fact had previously agreed that I could publish that piece—not a small amount of work—and then put it up after a bit of editing, well, that is a censorious behavior I cannot abide. I was simply promoting a biological rather than a psychological definition of sex, and I do not understand why you would consider that “distressing” and also an attempt to hurt LGBTQIA+ people, which I would never do.

As I said, I think these folks should have moral and legal rights identical to those of other groups, except in the rare cases in which LGBTQIA+ rights conflict with the rights of other groups, in which case some kind of adjudication is necessary. But your announcement about the “mistake” of publishing my piece also implies that what I wrote was transphobic.

Further, when I emailed Annie Laurie asking why my piece had disappeared (before the “official announcement” of revocation was issued), I didn’t even get the civility of a response. Is that the way you treat a member of the honorary board?

I always wanted to be on the board so I could help steer the FFRF: I didn’t think of it as a job without any remit. The only actions I’ve taken have been to write to both of you—sometimes in conjunction with Steve, Dan (Dennett), or Richard—warning of the dangers of mission creep, of violating your stated goals to adhere to “progressive” political or ideological positions. Mission creep was surely instantiated in your decision to cancel my piece when its discussion of biology and its relationship to sex in humans violated “progressive” gender ideology. This was in fact the third time that I and others have tried to warn the FFRF about the dangers of expanding its mission into political territory. But it is now clear that this is exactly what you intend to do. Our efforts have been fruitless, and if there are bad consequences I don’t want to be connected with them.

I will add one more thing. The gender ideology which caused you to take down my article is itself quasi-religious, having many aspects of religions and cults, including dogma, blasphemy, belief in what is palpably untrue (“a woman is whoever she says she is”), apostasy, and a tendency to ignore science when it contradicts a preferred ideology.

I will continue to struggle for the separation of church and state, and wish you well in that endeavor, which I know you will continue. But I cannot be part of an organization whose mission creep has led it to actually remove my words from the internet—words that I cannot see as harmful to any rational person. I am not out to hurt LGBTQIA+ people, and I hope you know that. But you have implied otherwise, and that is both shameful for you and hurtful for me.

Cordially
Jerry

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Another one leaves the fold: Steve Pinker resigns from the Freedom from Religion Foundation


Like me, Steve Pinker has resigned from the Honorary Board of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF). His resignation was sent yesterday. Steve is a bigger macher than I. both intellectually and, in this case, because he was Honorary President of that Board. I put below his two emails, reproduced with permission.

The first one was sent yesterday to the co-Presidents of the FFRF as well as the editor of Freethought Today!, which originally published my piece and then removed it.

From: Pinker, Steven
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 11:49 AM
Subject: resignation

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan,

With sadness, I resign from my positions as Honorary President and member of the Honorary Board of the Freedom from Religion Foundation. The reason is obvious: your decision, announced yesterday, to censor an article by fellow Board member Jerry Coyne, and to slander him as an opponent of LGBTQIA+ rights.

My letter to you last November (reproduced below) explains why I think these are grave errors. With this action, the Foundation is no longer a defender of freedom from religion but the imposer of a new religion, complete with dogma, blasphemy, and heretics. It has turned its back on reason: if your readers “wrongfully perceive” the opposite of a clear statement that you support the expression of contesting opinions, the appropriate response is to stand by your statement, not ratify their error. It has turned the names Freethought Today and Freethought Now into sad jokes, inviting ridicule from its worse foes. And it has shown contempt for the reasoned advice of its own board members.

There are not the values of not the organization I have supported for twenty years, and I can no longer be associated with it.

Sincerely,
Steve

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As Steve notes above, this second letter was sent over a month ago to the same people, with copies to me and Richard Dawkins, as all of us were discussing the issue of “mission creep” with the FFRF.

From: Pinker, Steven
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Comment for FFRF

Thanks, Annie Laurie. But I think it’s important to distinguish two things:

1. The right to bodily autonomy, an ethical issue.

2. The nature of sex in the living world, a scientific issue.

Some trans activists believe that the only way to ensure the first is to rewrite the second, imposing what we regard as fallacious and tendentious claims in defiance of our best scientific understanding. This is unfortunate for two reasons: it’s a conceptual error, confusing the moral and the empirical, and it’s counterproductive to force people to choose between trans rights and scientific reality. Those who favor scientific reality will be alienated from the cause of safeguarding trans rights.

I see FFRF as in the vanguard of separating key moral and political commitments from honest scientific inquiry (after all, a major impetus for enshrining religious doctrine such as creationism is that it is necessary for the preservation of moral values). Many people have noted that the radical factions of the trans movement have taken on some of the worst features of religion, such as the imposition of dogma and the excommunication and vilification of heretics. FFRF can be firmly on the side of trans rights without advancing tendentious (and almost certainly false) biological claims. Of course, it’s fine for views that we regard as tendentious to be expressed in FFRF forums, as long as respectful disagreements are allowed to be expressed as well.

Best,
Steve

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A third one leaves the fold: Richard Dawkins resigns from the Freedom from Religion Foundation

Well, that makes three of us. Steve Pinker, I, and now Richard Dawkins, have all decided independently to resign from the Honorary Board of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF). The organization’s ideological capture, as instantiated in throwing in their lot with extreme gender activism and censoring any objection to their views—as well as in the increasing tendency of the FFRF to add Critical Social Justice to their mission alongside their original and admirable goal of keeping church and state separate, has motivated us in different degrees to part ways with the group. I emphasize again that the FFRF did and still does engage in important work on keeping religion from creeping into governmental activity.

Richard explains his decision in the email below, sent not long ago to the heads of the FFRF. I, for one, hope that these resignations might make the FFRF rethink its direction.

I reproduce Richard’s very civil resignation with his permission:

Dear Annie Laurie and Dan

It is with real sadness, because of my personal regard for you both, that I feel obliged to resign from the Advisory Board of FFRF. Publishing the silly and unscientific “What is a Woman” article by Kat Grant was a minor error of judgment, redeemed by the decision to publish a rebuttal by a distinguished scientist from the relevant field of Biology, Jerry Coyne. But alas, the sequel was an act of unseemly panic when you caved in to hysterical squeals from predictable quarters and retrospectively censored that excellent rebuttal. Moreover, to summarily take it down without even informing the author of your intention was an act of lamentable discourtesy to a member of your own Advisory Board. A Board which I now leave with regret.

Although I formally resign, I would like to remain on friendly terms with you, and I look forward to cooperating in the future. And to delightful musical evenings if the opportunity arises.

Yours sincerely
Richard

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It is utterly amazing in their search for new places to publicly masturbate that trannies can't even leave the people that would adamantly defend them alone
It doesn't surprise me at all.

Their "allies" are the ones most likely to get on their knees and grovel for the slightest microaggression, and they know it.
 
I thought without religion people would be more reasonable and scientific and now we have women with penises and pregnant men
Tonight I listened to a man who is fucking a tranny state that Coyne is wrong for thinking mere biology can tell him what a woman is, and that I ought listen to the cross dresser he cheated on his wife with about that matter. What a women is, that is, not being fucked in the ass by a chaser.
 
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"People's existence isn't a religion you jabroni" Oh ffs, NOBODY IS DENYING THAT PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY'RE THE OPPOSITE SEX EXIST! Just because you think you're one doesn't make you one. It amazes me how I can use the same logic towards these people when comes to God. "I have a strong feeling that god is here and I can FEEL his presence. Therefore, he has to be real
 
Some people define a “woman” as someone with a vagina. This presents problems, as transgender women who receive bottom surgery have vaginas. So, then, perhaps it is someone born with a vagina? Well, what does that mean for intersex people, who are often given genital surgery at birth when their anatomy does not firmly meet criteria for a penis or vagina? It can’t be based on whether or not the person has a uterus, because not only does that present issues for intersex people, but also women who have hysterectomies. Even more issues arise if you attempt to define womanhood based on the ability to conceive children, or have a period, as it would also exclude women who have any number of medical conditions, or who have gone through menopause.

Maybe the issue is that there is simply too much potential variation in macrolevel anatomy. Instead, we should be looking at genetics. Does having two X chromosomes make you a woman? Or is it just that you do not possess a Y chromosome? Even more so, this approach to defining what a woman is does not work the moment that you remember intersex individuals exist. The chromosomal approach is also a deeply impractical one, as people can go their entire lives not knowing their chromosomal makeup.

This is always the most retarded argument of all. So fucking fallacious in basic essential nature. But so effective against normies.
Some people are born blind, that doesn't mean that the human race should or would ever be considered a binary sighted species. Just as birth defects don't mean humans need to be defined as a species by missing limbs or extra parts. It's nonsense, logically a complete fallacy and a failure of critical thinking on a fundamental level. The fact that intellectuals and "scientists", medical or otherwise, get away with it, is gross and dangerous.



It's funny because that is exactly what the people and ideology they defend did.. Take people's health care away. They, and against the wishes of current and past/recovered patients, parents of minor patients and experts of the time, forced the closure of all medical and scientific institutions specializing in treating the tiny number of truly gender confused and disturbed people. People who in most cases recovered fully or ended up gay. Only a small, tiny number ever persisted after dealing with other more serious developmental, mental, emotional and psychological problems and or histories of severe abuse. These services and specialists were the first ones targeted. It was easy since a lot of them were funded or based in higher education. Early TRAs drummed up a lot of nonsense and school admins caved in one after another.

It wasn't just about crushing the idea of non affirming treatment or getting in the way of "life threatening" hysteria. This was all part of the greater push to normalize and spread trans ideology as a contagion. Since experts and clinics would have instantly raised the alarm at the sudden raise of cases out of nowhere.. To say nothing of the efforts at creating "de-medicalization", 'affirming care only' and "life threatening" narratives to come.
 
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Secularism and laicite are things I support. However of course FFRF got top heavy with trannies, trannies are fucking everywhere in these spaces now. Almost makes one want to go full tradcath, but I'm sure some trannies have that as a fetish too.
 
This is always the most retarded argument of all. So fucking fallacious in basic essential nature. But so effective against normies.
They always trot out the line about how women shouldn't be defined by one characteristic, yet propose a stupid solution. Yes, not all women possess certain traits, that doesn't mean that womanhood has no definition and can be anything we want it to be. Maybe it would make more sense to think of womanhood as a collection of traits that need not all be present at once but do not make you a woman in isolation. You can have feminine facial features but that alone doesn't automatically mean being a woman because you lack everything else like having a uterus, etc. Likewise, a hysterectomy patient doesn't have her woman card revoked because she still has most other traits associated with womanhood.

Their linguistic sleight-of-hand annoys me because it defeats the entire purpose of classifying people into men and women. You group similar people to make it easier to address the similar problems they have. If you can let everyone in then what's the fucking point?
 
Dawkins is now claiming that he was never a political retard. Dear Dicky, we judge people by outcomes, not by how they perceive themselves. If we did, all of us would be supreme rational thinkers without blemish. Mistakes would be external, far away from our beliefs.

Intentions mean nothing. I can't know what goes inside anyone. I am unable to know my own motives with utmost certainty. Every dictator who stands behind a podium has declared good intentions. Does that justify the mass murders?

Dawkins is a talented biologist and journalist (as EO Wilson dubbed him). The Selfish Gene is worth reading if one ignores the asides to politics or cultural issues that have nothing to do with genetics. Dawkins is a man without a philosophy, which means he follows a dead one. His philosophical education, like Darwin before him, goes as far as Paradise Lost and Paley and no further. It is why the only time he debates well is when he is up against car salesmen or university students. Dawkins would struggle with Thomas Nagle or David Stove, two atheists who found his work underwhelming. He has always picked low hanging fruit and been rewarded with publicity and plaudits by the media for it.

In a recent interview, I imprudently said I was a “cultural Christian”, and I haven’t heard the end of it. I find myself unwillingly counted in the Great Christian Revival (translation, “We don’t actually believe that stuff ourselves, but we like it when other people do”) which is the subject of so much wishful thinking these days.

Of course I’m a cultural Christian. Always have been. Packed off to Anglican schools, I was confirmed when too young to know better. Large chunks of the English Hymnal were imprinted in my long-term memory, and duly pop out when I’m fooling around with my electronic clarinet. I know my way around the Bible, at least well enough to take an allusion when I encounter one. I love mediaeval cathedrals. I’ve never met a parson, of either sex, that I didn’t like. But none of that undermines my conviction that what they believe about the nature of reality is nonsense.

An irritating strain of the Great Christian Revival is the myth of the God-shaped hole. “When men choose not to believe in God, they then believe in anything.” The famous aphorism, which GK Chesterton never uttered, is enjoying one of its periodic dustings-off, following the vogue for women with penises and men who give birth. Whenever I sound off against this modish absurdity, I’m met with a barrage of accusations. “Frankly Richard, you did this. You defended woke BS for years” (of course I didn’t: quite the opposite but, for this believer in the God-shaped hole, discouraging theism is indistinguishable from encouraging woke BS). “But don’t you see, you helped to bring this about.” “What do you expect, if people give up Christianity?” Then there’s this, from a Daily Telegraph opinion column:

And here’s Debbie Hayton on The Spectator’s website, writing (mostly reasonably) about a recent episode in which Jerry Coyne, Steven Pinker and I resigned from the Honorary Board of an atheist organisation that’s been taken over by the trans cult:

“An atheistic organisation worth its salt would oppose these movements in the same way that it opposes established religion, so Coyne, Pinker and Dawkins are right to walk away. But maybe the key lesson from this sorry debacle is that it is not so easy to expunge the need for religion from human beings than atheists might like to think. If there is a God-shaped hole in us then without established religion, something else is likely to take its place.”

And from the comments following her article:

“Why is Richard Dawkins surprised that people who reject Christianity have rejected its moral values also? Those values have stood us in good stead for two thousand years.”

Christianity provides reasons for rejecting trans nonsense. Therefore Christianity provides the only reasons for rejecting trans nonsense. Some syllogism!

The scientific reasons are more cogent by far. They are based on evidence rather than scripture, authority, tradition, revelation or faith. I’ve spelled them out elsewhere, and will do so again but not here. I’ll just support the claim that the trans-sexual bandwagon is a form of quasi-religious cult, based on faith, not evidence. It denies scientific reality. Like all religions it is philosophically dualistic: where conventional religions posit a “soul” separate from the body, the trans preacher posits some kind of hovering inner self, capable of being “born in the wrong body”. The cult mercilessly persecutes heretics. It abuses vulnerable children too young to know their own mind, encouraging them to doubt the reality of their own bodies, in extreme cases inflicting on those bodies irreversible hormonal, and even surgical damage.

Far from playing into the hands of these preachers, my colleagues and I are opposed to all faith creeds, all non-evidence-based belief systems. This includes traditional supernatural religions, but it also includes younger faith systems such as that in which a man literally becomes a woman (or a woman a man) by fiat. Or by legal decision (you could as well legally repeal the laws of thermodynamics so we can have perpetual motion machines).

How patronising, how insulting to imply that, if deprived of a religion, humanity must ignominiously turn to something equally irrational. If I am to profess a faith here, it is a faith in human intelligence strong enough to doubt the existence of a God-shaped hole.
 
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The whole atheism thing boiled down to:

1 So there is no god, but some people believe in it anyway, what's the problem?
2 Religion oppresses women and minorities.
3 Enter intersectional feminism, followed closely by troons.

And now we're here. Unlike Dawkins and their ilk, his fans need the end product, not endless debate back and forth on this or that aspect of religion/atheism. The end product was troons. Simple.

Dawkins is probably a smart man up to a point, not smart enough apparently to realise that removing religion for most people results in a vacuum, which gets filled up with things that are not necessarily any better than religion.
 
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Dawkins is now claiming that he was never a political retard.
In his newest article he attempts to argue against the "God-shaped hole" with logic, not realizing that atheists flocking to quasi-religious nuttery (be it Marxism, Libertarianism, feminism, CRT, or rainbow shit) is a tendency rather than a logical certainty. People who accuse him of making his own bed may or may not be fair to him, but they are not pointing out a logical conclusion, but something akin to, "If you didn't smoke so much you wouldn't have gotten lung cancer". And if Science is "based on evidence rather than scripture, authority, tradition, revelation or faith", then tell me why the Freedom Foundation has so utterly failed to sway the troons in the Foundations with these, and instead defer to the few who have unverifiable "lived experiences", as if they were the prophets of some transsexual godx.

E.O. Wilson recognized the God-shaped hole, and he proposed that scientists commandeer people's religious instinct in the service of Science -- "service" in the Christian sense of the word, with rituals, credos, etc. that are dedicated to the promotion of Science. His suggestion is outrageous, of course, but I think there is indeed a spiritual instinct in people -- the awareness that there are knowledge that are not open to empirical and logical verification -- that atheism stymied, at the peril of itself and its followers.
 
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"Uhm, excuse me Mr. Dawkins, science says trans women are women? Don't you believe in science?"
I never understand how they say this stuff with a straight face -- if you believe you can pin down trans-ness to physiological causes, there is absolutely no reason to be dogmatic about defining gender via pure self-identification. And if you are going to be dogmatic about the self-identification definition, which these people most certainly are, then such physiological links to gender only harm your position that was built upon gender being a "mere" social construct!

Also, perhaps I will get shouted down, but it is not surprising that the people who have been consistently against dogma since the 90s are still against dogma. Religious dogma is still bad, btw!
 
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