Law How much sleep does a banker need? A US court will decide - Jury to rule on whether Centerview erred by sacking junior analyst who needed at least 8 hours’ rest a night

Sujeet Indap and Kaye Wiggins in New York
Published Feb 18 2026

Centerview Partners, the elite New York M&A advisory boutique, had crafted for Kathryn Shiber a working arrangement that would strike many overworked junior bankers as unimaginably civilised.
In 2020, just after Shiber started as a junior analyst, Centerview granted her a guaranteed nine-hour period in which to sleep each night, to manage her diagnosed mood and anxiety disorder. In exchange, she agreed to be available to work every other moment, seven days a week.

Less than three weeks after Centerview implemented those terms, Shiber was summoned to an afternoon video call where she was terminated. Centerview’s chief operating officer chastised the then 21-year-old for even applying for an investment banking job given her requirements for rest. Shiber then sued for disability discrimination under federal and state law.

The jury trial in federal court in New York, due to start next week, will add fuel to a simmering debate over working conditions that ambitious 20-somethings endure for high pay and high status jobs.

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Kathryn Shiber’s jury trial is set to begin next week © Leonardo Munoz/AFP/Getty Images

“There is a genuine dispute [about] whether the ability to be available at all hours of the day and to work long, unpredictable hours is an essential function of the analyst role,” wrote federal judge Edgardo Ramos in October when he ordered the case to move forward.

Working conditions have been a years-long source of contention on Wall Street. In 2021 a group of first-year investment banking analysts at Goldman Sachs produced a slide deck about their long hours working from home during the pandemic and lack of sleep that went viral online, prompting a rethink in the industry. Some banks capped hours and introduced a “protected” weekend day off.

It was “incredibly unusual” for a case of this type to make it all the way to trial, said Katherine Macfarlane, a law professor and director of the disability law and policy programme at Syracuse University College of Law. She said judges often dismissed claims under the Americans with Disabilities Act, which Shiber is citing, at an earlier stage in the legal process.

She said it would be “slightly absurd [to be] in court arguing that people have to be available 24 hours a day, that’s your expectation . . . The number of people that would preclude is pretty big.”

Shiber has said her termination permanently derailed her investment banking career and is demanding pay that she would have earned in the next decade, back pay and damages for “emotional distress”, adding up to millions of dollars.

Centerview has responded that its junior bankers, like their peers across Wall Street, “are known to work long and often unpredictable hours, a consequence of the job of an investment banker”.

It said the guaranteed nine-hour sleep window was designed as only a short-term solution when Shiber first mentioned her sleep needs.

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Working conditions, including long hours, have been a years-long source of contention on Wall Street © Yuki Iwamura/Bloomberg

The bank said it soon became clear that it would not work in the longer term. There was “no reasonable accommodation available” that would enable her to perform the role if she needed eight to nine hours of consistent sleep per night, it said in filings.

A central question at trial was likely to be “whether it is actually essential that someone be available at three in the morning” or whether those hours are simply a cultural norm, said John Jacobi, a visiting professor at Columbia Law School.

Another important question would be whether the bank had discussed Shiber’s needs with her and tried to accommodate them, Jacobi said, referring to a legal standard known as an “interactive process”.

Expected witnesses include multiple Centerview bankers who supervised Shiber as well as duelling health professionals familiar with Shiber’s medical condition.

In a deposition that offers a glimpse into the at-times personal nature of the questioning in such cases, litigators for Centerview from the law firm Quinn Emanuel pressed Shiber about how much time she spent on Instagram and TikTok and her experience of grief. Quinn Emanuel also asked Shiber if she had lied to a school physician in order to be awarded extra time for exams, which she denied.

Shiber, a Dartmouth College graduate, had been working on Centerview’s “Project Dragon”, which was a mandate to defend the multibillion-dollar North Carolina utility Duke Energy from a possible proxy contest led by hedge fund Elliott Management.

In late August 2020, Shiber logged off after midnight without messaging two more senior bankers whom she was working with on a presentation for Duke. Shiber was reprimanded the next morning, after which she called Centerview’s human resources department to inform it of her medical need for sleep.

The lead banker of Project Dragon, Tony Kim, who is now co-president of Centerview, quickly designed what the firm would call a “guardrails” programme that excused Shiber from work between midnight and 9am.

Emails produced later as well as deposition testimony from Centerview bankers showed that the firm eventually believed that Shiber’s nightly absence was undermining both her personal development and the cohesion of the project.

Shiber’s lawyers have maintained that the accommodation was reasonable.

Centerview has countered that long and erratic hours are a crucial component of the analyst role and that state and federal disability law does not require an employer to take on a worker who cannot meet what the employer believes are basic obligations.

“Junior bankers obviously don’t need permission to go to sleep, but are expected to work together and communicate properly with teammates,” Centerview said in a statement.

Judge Ramos said in his denial of Centerview’s bid to prevail on summary judgment that the firm had never formally codified what the working-hour expectations were for junior analysts and Shiber has said she was unaware that she could be required at times to work consistently into the early morning hours.

Centerview, founded in 2006 by Blair Effron and Robert Pruzan, is widely considered to be the most elite US merger advisory boutique, with annual revenues now exceeding $2bn even as it has fewer employees than rivals such as Moelis & Co and Lazard.

A focus in the trial will be which Centerview executives made the decision to jettison Shiber. The firm is attempting to keep Pruzan, the co-founder who handles most of its administrative matters, from testifying, arguing that he was not a key decision maker in the Shiber matter.

Shiber in a court filing said she had earned $582,000 since she was terminated by Centerview more than 5 years ago, including an employment stint in the finance group at Google.

“Centerview’s act of terminating Shiber at the very start of her career had and will continue to have a devastating impact on her earnings for the rest of her work life,” her lawyers wrote in a recent court filing.

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A good portion of my family are/were railroaders, and the FRA has mandated time off depending how long your shift lasts (this is for operating department, the people actually driving the trains). I came in on this expecting to be sympathetic to the girl, because fuck banks, but all I see is retarded corporate hazing and someone not hacking it.
 
The military says you require 4 hours of sleep to be able to function well enough to follow orders.

Eight entire hours of uninterrupted sleep sounds like a luxury!
For the long term it's 7 hours. Take in account preparing to go to bed and 8 hours of off-time is what you should provide at a minimum.
 
I read it as she had a normal contract, nothing special... she then gets advice from social media how she is special and has special sleep needs that must be accommodated or you get to sue them. The company went out of its way to give her a temporary 9 hour sleep window so she could work out alternative work or treatment so she could do the job she was hired to do, this was a mistake and they should have just fired her due to being unfit for purpose.

I'd love to know what "disability" she has and if it's a permanent one; my bet is that she has nothing of substance and this going to a Federal Court will only fuck over employees that are actually disabled.
She got past the dismissals. So a judge looked at it and there is something that meets ADA criteria it sounds like.

There are lots of health conditions both mental and physical where it would be trivial to get a Dr to say "yes this person needs to get a full nights rest every day". You could get them to write that for anemia or high blood pressure much less the mental health disorders. And its to be frank true! Lots of minor physical issues get better with more rest. And not getting enough sleep is a hallmark of mental health issues.

Where they fucked up is it sounds like they didnt follow interactive process rules correctly. You cant give a temporary permission under the ADA until the underlying issue is resolved. An example might be you let an employee with a broken leg sit instead of stand at a cash register until their leg heals. Then you take the stool when it heals. You arent gonna be able to take the stool if they are missing a leg and get around on crutches.

The bank is going to have to go on record explaining why letting employees sleep each night is an unreasonable accomodation. And that may open them up to other issues like OHSA.

They are very likely to settle because a judgement opens them up to a deluge of lawsuits in the future from past, present, and future employees.
 
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The military says you require 4 hours of sleep to be able to function well enough to follow orders.

Eight entire hours of uninterrupted sleep sounds like a luxury!

The major difference is nobody is treated like that under normal circumstances or for long term.
 
the funny thing is, most of the people taking the bank’s side are on welfare. cross reference their posts on here to their posts on the Government Shutdown thread a few months ago. leeching off the working class while crying that the working class doesn’t even deserve nine hours a day to themselves… the true Jews are among us
 
the funny thing is, most of the people taking the bank’s side are on welfare. cross reference their posts on here to their posts on the Government Shutdown thread a few months ago. leeching off the working class while crying that the working class doesn’t even deserve nine hours a day to themselves… the true Jews are among us

I remember that thread. Was surprised at how many Kiwis are on the tugboat.
 
the funny thing is, most of the people taking the bank’s side are on welfare. cross reference their posts on here to their posts on the Government Shutdown thread a few months ago. leeching off the working class while crying that the working class doesn’t even deserve nine hours a day to themselves… the true Jews are among us
Meanwhile, the Financial Times comments from people who actually work in finance are almost entirely on the girl’s side.
 
Maybe I’m just being a useful goy, but I feel like it’s common knowledge that certain careers require you to basically have no life outside of work. In return, they offer extremely high salaries and the ability to retire early with a ton of money saved up. It’s a trade off a lot of people are willing to make.

Getting into that line of work and expecting a normal life is kinda stupid. She must have known what she was getting into. It’s like being queasy around blood and choosing to become a surgeon.
You’re right but you’re also wrong. Because the list of things that counted as that line of work used to be a lot larger. Wasn’t real long ago the 14 hour workday was common for factories.
 
The courts disagree.

It is what it is.
No, like, if a job requires a minimum level of functioning and no reasonable accommodation exists, the ADA doesn't require them to be hired anyway.

There's no accommodation that can raise someone's IQ, so if a job requires a minimum level of intellectual functioning, there's no court precedent requiring someone to be hired.
 
Why are they not simply hiring more staff?
I rarely do on call anymore. I dabbled with it when I was younger but it was in a trade where if my ass was getting out of bed it's a once a year event and people will/could die if I don't.
If it's a regular occurrence they should be hiring more.
You have a relationship with specific people, not necessarily the bank as a whole. Even if you're a high-net-worth individual customer instead of a corporate customer, you can call your bank and probably get the same few bankers. The bank reserves the right to call you at all hours so you can work on "critical" PowerPoint slides, and the bank will pay you money (garden leave) not to take your clients with you when you leave.

Even on the IT end, the potential damages from minor issues can rack up very quickly. There's supposed to be an on-call rotation, but in practice, the workers are very overspecialized and you will be called for "your" issue.
 
Spent three-plus years in actual intelligence operations in Korea, always running 24/7/365. Our unit had four operational flights, worked on a three-shift daily basis. We worked three swing shifts, then 24 hours off, then three mid shifts, then 24 hours off, then three day shifts, then 72 hours off. This was called a 'cycle'. The unit also had what we called 'day shops', which worked Monday to Friday, 7:30 to 4:30, weekends and holidays off. We were doing a critical job, our wartime job in Korea.
We're doing split shifts* right now in my line of work (plowing snow) where you are guaranteed 8 hours on every week day (weekends are on-call) with the option of it being extended to 12 if weather demands it.

You may get two 12 hour shifts back-to-back if the weather is severe, but, that still leaves you with 12 hours to spend to recharge however you see fit before you'll be back, so if you account fo the "typical" 8 hours of rest? That leaves you with 4 hours to shit shower and shave at your discretion less commute to and from work.

So, even if they were asking for 12 hour work days? I don't see how that's unreasonable and incompatible with getting enough sleep.

And then there's the fact you signed up for it..... if you didn't check the hourly requirements before you did so? Or didn't apologize and give notice you'd be quitting because you couldn't take it once it became obvious? Shame on you.
Camp work is also the same. During my stint in the oil sands everyone on site worked 12 hour shifts and operators did not have a choice between daytime (6AM to 6PM) or graveyard (6PM to 6AM) - you worked both while up there, with those flipping between the two rotations working a midshift rotation to acclimatize your sleep schedule. Us engineers had the perk of working daytime shifts exclusively, but you're on call and will be woken up should something break or operations needs oversight on a particular install. Big benefit for everyone involved is you're only pulling such schedules for 1-2 weeks at a time, with the next 1-2 weeks counting effectively as a free vacation.

This case does scream both sides being in the wrong. The analyst should've known exactly what she was getting into given the industry (analyst work requirements are well-known these days), but the M&A advisory group also can handle the on-call requirements better. It's perfectly acceptable for a company to require 12 hour days and on-call rotations as part of work duties, provided they similarly provide sufficient downtime to sleep and recharge.
 
No, like, if a job requires a minimum level of functioning and no reasonable accommodation exists, the ADA doesn't require them to be hired anyway.

There's no accommodation that can raise someone's IQ, so if a job requires a minimum level of intellectual functioning, there's no court precedent requiring someone to be hired.
You cant use IQ or mental ability as a requirement because it disqualifies too many niggers.

You have to describe a task you want a nigger to do that they cannot do. Cant count to 50? Why cant they have a clicker counter? Cant remember to do shit? Why cant they use a calendar?

This is why office jobs have shit like "must be able to lift x number of pounds". Thats a concrete thing someone disabled might not be able to do. You have to explain how its part of the job too.

For physical tasks its easy. For other tasks its harder. They will have to explain how not sleeping is part of the job and why its required while also not violating OHSA.
 
You cant use IQ or mental ability as a requirement because it disqualifies too many niggers.

You have to describe a task you want a nigger to do that they cannot do. Cant count to 50? Why cant they have a clicker counter? Cant remember to do shit? Why cant they use a calendar?

This is why office jobs have shit like "must be able to lift x number of pounds". Thats a concrete thing someone disabled might not be able to do. You have to explain how its part of the job too.

For physical tasks its easy. For other tasks its harder. They will have to explain how not sleeping is part of the job and why its required while also not violating OHSA.
Yeah, but they don't apply that ADA concept of reasonable accommodations to jobs where the core work is inherently intellectual in the same way you're describing.

You get one-off liberal judges, but there's no broad precedent completely upending the concept of "reasonable" in "reasonable accommodations" in that way. The dipshit activists are trying to do that, don't get me wrong, but they're going up against Bezos and similar dystopian supervillians.

If you're hiring an accountant, you can reasonably restrict the role to people intellectually competent at accounting.

You can't directly use IQ or mental ability. But that's why job tests that are highly g-loaded are super valuable to employers. They're essentially a legal proxy for an IQ test and they're in common legal use nationwide.

I say this all the time, but Duke v Griggs Power needs to be overturned. Not even because of the moral belief that you have an individual right to choose how to allocate your resources, but even just from a legal perspective, the assumption it was decided on, that task-specific tests are better at ranking potential hires, is just factually untrue.

I firmly believe a high IQ hire with zero background in, say, computer programming, will be a better programmer than some dipshit who bullshitted a shitty programming test.

Until Griggs is overturned, then hiring managers need to stick to good programming tests instead.
 
If you're hiring an accountant, you can reasonably restrict the role to people intellectually competent at accounting
You can require someone to have passed a certification or get a degree or test. You also have to justify why its required. Its better to make a college or certification company do that so you offboard it.

You cannot put "must have no cognitive or intellectual disabilities". Colleges and cert boards are tripping over themselves to prove that downies can pass them these days.

An HR person would strangle you if you tried to put "no downs syndrome" on a job rec. Hell you cant even filter out non citizens anymore from interviews.

For this instance a reasonable requirement might be "must be able to work 20 hours in a row" (put all the time or more than 20 and watch the OHSA issues). They have to justify why its a requirement. And they probably dont want to do that because it doesnt actually provide value.

Like residency for doctors its a hazing ritual and wouldnt actually stand on scrutiny.
 
Meanwhile, the Financial Times comments from people who actually work in finance are almost entirely on the girl’s side.


It's wild seeing how much people are willing to genuinely deepthroat blatantly dogshit working practices. Is this the 'I'm a temporarily impoverished millionaire' mindset I see memed?

A lot of A&Niggers are spiritually boomers.
 
I think the biggest thing is they reneged on the agreement. IDK how it is in New York but iirc if you tell your employer that you have a certain disability that can impede your work and they still hire you, they cannot fire you later for said disability. For example I remember a woman who worked with my girlfriend at the time suing the company because she was drinking on the job, but she had previously been caught and told them she was an alcoholic. Because they didn't fire her then and she informed them of her alcoholism it qualified as a disability and firing her later violated the ADA apparently.
 
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