HBO’s Watchmen - NOTHING EVER ENDS...Except When It Should

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Granted it's been years since I've read the original comic but I don't remember Rorschach being racist, an edgy social darwinist maybe but not racist.

Why would a Neo Nazi cult worship Rorschach?
 
HeyYou dijo:
I ain't watching this shit, did Dr. Manhattan come in and kill everyone at least? Also, Rorschach's fanclub is actually white nationalist. God fucking damn.
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He appears in a tv where there is a newsflash about him playing with sand in Mars

Saw it today, here for some reason people liked it because they dont know about all the american story about for example no one here know or care about the Tulsa thing ,i did not get the thing about the squids tho, maybe i need to polish my comic fu

The ost is god tier in my book
 
Ruin dijo:
Granted it's been years since I've read the original comic but I don't remember Rorschach being racist, an edgy social darwinist maybe but not racist.

Why would a Neo Nazi cult worship Rorschach?
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He was definitely right-wing, but Alan Moore had the good sense to write him well. Pretty much to the point that you could argue (and Moore himself might have been leaning towards) he was ultimately right in the end to give the evidence exposing Veidt to that newspaper.

As far as I can tell, that evidence didn't actually do anything in this universe and these edgy ass Neo-Nazis were inspired by his words or some shit. Terrible premise.
 
A white supremacist group forming because they were inspired by The Comedian? Now THAT, I can actually see.

Rorschach though? Nope. Don't see it.

I bet the writers of this show thought, "Hurr durr, Rorschach says something potentially homophobic about Ozymandias in the graphic novel. That means he's a racist too! Forget that Rorschach most likely had a fucked up world view about any explicit/overt sexuality in general due to his childhood trauma ... Let's just over simplify it and make him the symbol of white supremacy! Aren't we geniuses?!"

Because, you know, when it came to politics, Alan Moore was never about nuance. Nope. Never.

The most "racist" thing Rorschach said in the graphic novel was when he expressed approval towards dropping the two bombs on Japan to end WWII. And even then, he wasn't talking about race. He was talking about needing to make the hard decisions ... Which makes it all the more compelling when he condemns Veidt for what he does at the end of the comic book.

The comic book poses a moral question onto the reader and doesn't spoon feed them any answers. This show ... Obviously does not do the same.
 
Ruin dijo:
Granted it's been years since I've read the original comic but I don't remember Rorschach being racist, an edgy social darwinist maybe but not racist.

Why would a Neo Nazi cult worship Rorschach?
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Didn't he send his diary to a white nationalist tabloid?
Would make sense that no one outside their core readership believed them when they published it.
 
garakfan69 dijo:
Didn't he send his diary to a white nationalist tabloid?
Would make sense that no one outside their core readership believed them when they published it.
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As far as I can tell, the white nationalists don't have any goal relating to exposing the truth regarding Veidt and his plan, they just want to kill black people. That makes no sense, Veidt is the most Aryan motherfucker alive, you think that they'd be more like right wing militias and cults if they wanted to make it political.
 
garakfan69 dijo:
Didn't he send his diary to a white nationalist tabloid?
Would make sense that no one outside their core readership believed them when they published it.
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The New Frontiersman was a paper that was deemed "Right Wing" and "full of conspiracy theories." Think of InfoWars. The comic book never called it racist or white supremacist (at least I'm fairly certain?).
 
StarkRavingMad dijo:
The New Frontiersman was a paper that was deemed "Right Wing" and "full of conspiracy theories." Think of InfoWars. The comic book never called it racist or white supremacist (at least I'm fairly certain?).
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It was shown having some Ben Garrison type cartoons that were a little questionable. As I recall, it wasn't even in InfoWars territory and was more of a NY Post deal.
 
I'm surprised we haven't heard anything about a troon character yet
 
Tookie dijo:
It was shown having some Ben Garrison type cartoons that were a little questionable. As I recall, it wasn't even in InfoWars territory and was more of a NY Post deal.
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I mean their was that one article where they were praising the Klan. (I think it was at the end of issue 8 or 9)

garakfan69 dijo:
Didn't he send his diary to a white nationalist tabloid?
Would make sense that no one outside their core readership believed them when they published it.
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Its not like Rorsach had any other options. It's established that Veidt controls a good chunk of the media and the majority of the outlets that had no connection to Veidt would likely not print the story since it came from someone whose seen as a crackpot.
 
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He's a Nazi Incel!!!!!!
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Tookie dijo:
He's a Nazi Incel!!!!!!
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Anyone who unironically states that Rorsarch is an incel is a fucking moron. As stated earlier in this thread, Rorsarch is disgusted by sexual stimuli as a result of childhood trauma (much like Psycho Mantis) as such he's not interested in sexual relations thus making him VOLUNTARILY celibate
 
Cubanodun dijo:
He appears in a tv where there is a newsflash about him playing with sand in Mars

Saw it today, here for some reason people liked it because they dont know about all the american story about for example no one here know or care about the Tulsa thing ,i did not get the thing about the squids tho, maybe i need to polish my comic fu
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The squids are a leftover from Veidt's genetic monster thing that wiped out half of New York. It seems the nature of the disaster got covered up and Rorschach's revelations through the "New Frontiersman" have been dismissed as conspiracy theory by the public.

I mostly liked this first episode, and it's got me curious about the rest of the series. But I've watched a bunch of stuff that's gone to shit quickly recently, and HBO's going to need a lot more than Chernobyl to get back my respect after Game of Thrones.
 
Commander X dijo:
Director of new Watchmen adaptation: We decided that the modern equivalent to fear of a thermonuclear holocaust is policing and Black Lives Matter

And people wonder why Alan Moore refuses to let any adaptations use his name.
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I might disagree on certain things with Moore and at times i have expressed (despite not doing as well as i could) that his opinion can be be often taken as the final words on certain things related to comic but i read that first quote and i think i see things his way, there really should have been no adaptation of his work (the gameplay in the game was fun but it overall felt like the franchise was tacked on yet it was one of the completletly awful noN-Moore part of his work unlike the Prequel comics, the film or Doomsday Clock)
 
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