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The main problem with Watchmen is the Pirate Story is one of the most important themes, and it's kind of impossible to get that with a miniseries. The Pirate Story is so brilliant because its reflective of Veidt's journey without the ego, without the narcissism. That he was the monster all along. The monsters weren't hunting him, they were calling him home. He was never good, or brilliant or this sterling figure. He was the worst of them all. He murdered women and children. He destroyed people's lives. He was worse than a rapist and a murderer, he defilied his very identity with what he did, and its basically Moore telling the audience Veidt's true nature and journey through unclouded eyes.
It really is one of the most brilliant pieces of fiction and basically 'The Watchmen' is a pinnacle of the genre. Its this way, because you don't even have to look at it as a deconstruction of the genre. You can take it just at its face value as a story and it WORKS. That's what these faggot creators don't understand. THE BEST political works in HISTORY always worked as stories first, allegories second. You put the story first, because you need something that ties this together metaphorically. And it needs to be really fucking good. Its like any good political speech. Any good piece of literature. Any good scientific paper. Tell people a story. Draw them in.
Storytelling doesn't just serve as secondary, it is PRIMARY in all of our writing. If you look at the best scientific papers published, they're telling you a story. A really good story, that's real, that you can follow, that has deeper meanings and implications. That's why I stress storytelling is so fucking important, because it isn't just for creatives. If you want to run for office, have a good story. You want a good scientific paper or experiment, have a good story for it. You want to invent a new program or app, same deal. The words, audience jargon and language might all be different, but its still the same at its core: telling a good goddamn story. Read Origin of the Species. Any layman can do it and understand it without knowing a thing about biology, because of the story it tells, the way its framed, and the way its reached its conclusions. Why were people taken in by Theranos, when if you looked at the thing even cursory, the device itself broke the laws of physics? It told a good story. Like any con does. Any good lie, any good manipulation, at its heart, has a good story.
To ignore story-telling in favor of political garbage will always end in failure. Storytelling is basically the most potent form of human communication because we can all understand it. Its how we communicated our history before we even invented writing. It is the BASIS for everything. Just think of any inspiring speech, any revolutionary discovery. My favorite all-time noble prize is the guy who discovered that ulcers weren't produced from stress, but from bacteria. Why? Its an awesome fucking story. Its also the only Australian noble prize. The guy was called crazy, had all his experiments shut down, and to prove it, he drank the bacteria himself. That's a good fucking story with also an important scientific message behind it: Science is human. If they call you crazy, you keep going. No matter what.
Sorry to go on a complete rant about storytelling, but I'm getting tired of it being thrown to the wayside. Its probably one of the most important, overlooked, skills to have. I love to write, I know narrative structure. Any scientific presentation I do tells a story. Its got threads, beginnings, middles, and endings. Its got twists and turns. The language and topics I use are different, but the fundamentals are the same.
To just grab material and take the storytelling out of it and jam your own political beliefs in it is fucking mind boggling to me. For one, its not going to work. People can see what you're doing, because fact of the matter is, people aren't fucking re.tarded. Like I said, storytelling was the fundamental basis for human communication before there was every any written language. Its almost instinctual in us. And there's a difference between storytelling and outright propaganda. Propaganda isn't storytelling. Its message first, story later or never. Its a sledgehammer while storytelling is a scalpel. I patently see what they're doing, what they want to imply. That wasn't a trailer for a story. That was a trailer for a propaganda piece. All style, no substance, its message is easily clear while whatever story beats are irrelevant or make 0 sense in terms of the source material or even reality wise. (Which my post was meant to illustrate, I know these questions have no answers because no one thought about them).
If you want to insert your politics and intersectionality into a piece, fine. Then tell me a good story. If not, fuck off with your propaganda. You're fucking failures in the most basic art of human communication fucking disgusts me more than your politics. That's why we're seeing this creatively bankrupt shit. Its only a means to push 'orange man bad'. Yes, I understand. You aren't brilliant. You're not controversial. You share a popular opinion with 50% of the country, how fucking brave. I don't care. Tell me a story. Or just shut your fucking mouth.
Of course it didn't. Alan Moore, for all his beliefs (and they're fucking weird) is a storyteller first. Any one of his many works can tell you that. He cares about story-craft. It definitely was embedded in the Thatcher-era and the iron fear of it, but again, you didn't even need that. Most people saw it as a good story first and foremost. And that's the important thing.
I don't think Watchmen can be filmed, really. Firstly, you're basically losing a lot of themes if you do, because a lot of shit in Watchmen takes time to process. I LOVE Blood Meridian, but that fucking novel has NO PUNCTUATION, uses archaic words for nearly everything and has untranslated Spanish. To read that fucking thing, I had to sit down with a notebook and comb through it. But its still one of the best novels I ever read. Because you have to put in the work to understand it and the value you get from discovering it is immense. I have no clue how Cormac McCarthy wrote it, because holy shit. And don't say mescaline, because there's no way a man on mescaline could cognitively find the archaic word for bucket and use it properly without punctuation.
But anyway, Watchmen would only work as a very slow paced drama. Problem is you'd need to watch it like two or three times to take it all in. And most Superhero shit these days is far from slow paced. I just disagree it can be filmed in any form. Its just too much of a deconstruction and you need lots of time to process what's going on.
It really is one of the most brilliant pieces of fiction and basically 'The Watchmen' is a pinnacle of the genre. Its this way, because you don't even have to look at it as a deconstruction of the genre. You can take it just at its face value as a story and it WORKS. That's what these faggot creators don't understand. THE BEST political works in HISTORY always worked as stories first, allegories second. You put the story first, because you need something that ties this together metaphorically. And it needs to be really fucking good. Its like any good political speech. Any good piece of literature. Any good scientific paper. Tell people a story. Draw them in.
Storytelling doesn't just serve as secondary, it is PRIMARY in all of our writing. If you look at the best scientific papers published, they're telling you a story. A really good story, that's real, that you can follow, that has deeper meanings and implications. That's why I stress storytelling is so fucking important, because it isn't just for creatives. If you want to run for office, have a good story. You want a good scientific paper or experiment, have a good story for it. You want to invent a new program or app, same deal. The words, audience jargon and language might all be different, but its still the same at its core: telling a good goddamn story. Read Origin of the Species. Any layman can do it and understand it without knowing a thing about biology, because of the story it tells, the way its framed, and the way its reached its conclusions. Why were people taken in by Theranos, when if you looked at the thing even cursory, the device itself broke the laws of physics? It told a good story. Like any con does. Any good lie, any good manipulation, at its heart, has a good story.
To ignore story-telling in favor of political garbage will always end in failure. Storytelling is basically the most potent form of human communication because we can all understand it. Its how we communicated our history before we even invented writing. It is the BASIS for everything. Just think of any inspiring speech, any revolutionary discovery. My favorite all-time noble prize is the guy who discovered that ulcers weren't produced from stress, but from bacteria. Why? Its an awesome fucking story. Its also the only Australian noble prize. The guy was called crazy, had all his experiments shut down, and to prove it, he drank the bacteria himself. That's a good fucking story with also an important scientific message behind it: Science is human. If they call you crazy, you keep going. No matter what.
Sorry to go on a complete rant about storytelling, but I'm getting tired of it being thrown to the wayside. Its probably one of the most important, overlooked, skills to have. I love to write, I know narrative structure. Any scientific presentation I do tells a story. Its got threads, beginnings, middles, and endings. Its got twists and turns. The language and topics I use are different, but the fundamentals are the same.
To just grab material and take the storytelling out of it and jam your own political beliefs in it is fucking mind boggling to me. For one, its not going to work. People can see what you're doing, because fact of the matter is, people aren't fucking re.tarded. Like I said, storytelling was the fundamental basis for human communication before there was every any written language. Its almost instinctual in us. And there's a difference between storytelling and outright propaganda. Propaganda isn't storytelling. Its message first, story later or never. Its a sledgehammer while storytelling is a scalpel. I patently see what they're doing, what they want to imply. That wasn't a trailer for a story. That was a trailer for a propaganda piece. All style, no substance, its message is easily clear while whatever story beats are irrelevant or make 0 sense in terms of the source material or even reality wise. (Which my post was meant to illustrate, I know these questions have no answers because no one thought about them).
If you want to insert your politics and intersectionality into a piece, fine. Then tell me a good story. If not, fuck off with your propaganda. You're fucking failures in the most basic art of human communication fucking disgusts me more than your politics. That's why we're seeing this creatively bankrupt shit. Its only a means to push 'orange man bad'. Yes, I understand. You aren't brilliant. You're not controversial. You share a popular opinion with 50% of the country, how fucking brave. I don't care. Tell me a story. Or just shut your fucking mouth.
Of course it didn't. Alan Moore, for all his beliefs (and they're fucking weird) is a storyteller first. Any one of his many works can tell you that. He cares about story-craft. It definitely was embedded in the Thatcher-era and the iron fear of it, but again, you didn't even need that. Most people saw it as a good story first and foremost. And that's the important thing.
I don't think Watchmen can be filmed, really. Firstly, you're basically losing a lot of themes if you do, because a lot of shit in Watchmen takes time to process. I LOVE Blood Meridian, but that fucking novel has NO PUNCTUATION, uses archaic words for nearly everything and has untranslated Spanish. To read that fucking thing, I had to sit down with a notebook and comb through it. But its still one of the best novels I ever read. Because you have to put in the work to understand it and the value you get from discovering it is immense. I have no clue how Cormac McCarthy wrote it, because holy shit. And don't say mescaline, because there's no way a man on mescaline could cognitively find the archaic word for bucket and use it properly without punctuation.
But anyway, Watchmen would only work as a very slow paced drama. Problem is you'd need to watch it like two or three times to take it all in. And most Superhero shit these days is far from slow paced. I just disagree it can be filmed in any form. Its just too much of a deconstruction and you need lots of time to process what's going on.
