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Halo MCC/Infinite/general Griefing thread - Six months, two maps, no refunds
Also, did the story need another balls to the wall swinging dick? Johnson's already that, the overly stereotyped sergeant, and Stacker frankly helps overstuff the trope, establishes it as 'normal' among the marines. You'd think they'd want to give her an actually interesting trait as opposed to sloppy seconds.
IMO this feeds into the theory that the prequel was repurposed from a scrapped DLC campaign for Infinite. Williams was probably meant to be a "replacement" for Johnson [In the same vein as The Weapon/Joy being a replacement Cortana] with the whole thing presumably taking place on that unidentified covenant cruiser seen floating around Zeta Halo's skybox.
I also theorize that in this original take, the Prophet of Harmony was going to be a delusional fuckwit who was trying to "restore" the covenant the way it used to be [Hence his anachronistically acting as though he already knew Chief and referring to him as the "Demon," while giving his out-of-character "diversity is our strength" speech.] and even going as far as capturing Banished Brutes and lobotomizing/mind-controlling them. [Hence the remote controlled Were-Banes he throws at Chief in this mission.]
She's not in the books, not that I recall either. When I say her men, I mean the branch, not literally that she was the sergeant that stuck 'em in the ring and all. The books had their own cast of ODST's in the whole fob survivors arc on the ring parallel to chiefs journey, kinda surprised they didn't bring them in. Feel like I recall a good female character being either an ODST or an officer there. Fuck, now that I think of it, I swear that female character also killed the Truth and Reconcilliation before it could take off, on the half-flood Jenkins request at that point too.
They really did just bring in the Temu version of a much better book character, didn't they?
Between being just another remake and no multiplayer, I knew it'd be weak, but this is genuinely rough. I can hear Asha lubing up the Brute Dildo for 'em right now, they're gonna get spikefucked over this.
You're thinking of Melissa McKay. She was the first Lieutenant for the Pillar of Autumns ODST detachment in Halo: The Flood. She was a pretty good character all things considered. She was also the executive officer to the Spartan hating Major Silva.
And yeah she detonated a grenade to cripple the Truth and Reconciliation to prevent it from taking off and taking the Flood off world, since Silva wouldn't listen and thought Oni would reward him for bringing the highly infectious parasite to Earth.
I feel like basic shit like the OC Donutsteel Prophet calling Chief "demon" before the events of Halo CE and Chief catching and throwing back a sticky grenade is the kind of stuff you should be able to catch before launch.
I feel like basic shit like the OC Donutsteel Prophet calling Chief "demon" before the events of Halo CE and Chief catching and throwing back a sticky grenade is the kind of stuff you should be able to catch before launch.
Waiting for the weekend is generally a fine policy to have for games that don't have early access periods. Marathon as an example didn't have a 4 day early access launch. So waiting a week after it's launch to see how it's actually doing is a fine thing to advocate for. But when a game has an early access launch you can kind of get a gauge for how popular it is or will be. The fact that the game only saw an increase of 5,000 players between early access peak and launch peak is fucking sad. That's a 26% increase, and definitely not what Microsoft wants.
Waiting for the weekend is generally a fine policy to have for games that don't have early access periods. Marathon as an example didn't have a 4 day early access launch. So waiting a week after it's launch to see how it's actually doing is a fine thing to advocate for. But when a game has an early access launch you can kind of get a gauge for how popular it is or will be. The fact that the game only saw an increase of 5,000 players between early access peak and launch peak is fucking sad. That's a 26% increase, and definitely not what Microsoft wants.
Single player games are a bit different from multiplayer too because they’re easier to pick up on a weekday and you don’t really have to wait for other players to trickle in. Still though, releasing what’s supposed to be a blockbuster title on a Tuesday morning is a pretty weird choice.
Single player games are a bit different from multiplayer too because they’re easier to pick up on a weekday and you don’t really have to wait for other players to trickle in. Still though, releasing what’s supposed to be a blockbuster title on a Tuesday morning is a pretty weird choice.
Someone on Twitter, though I can't find the tweet. Pointed out that a halo game being #24 most popular on Xbox, on its release week, when NOTHING else has released in the same timeframe to poach players is just fucking sad.
Hell according to True Achievements or whatever they're called it's #12 which is still sad, it also apparently was behind Forza 6 if you compare launches. Though this was for last week.
The Humans not being forerunner completely breaks the story of the games as Forerunners are needed to activate the rings. That's why they needed Master Chief, Keyes or Johnson. Humans are forerunner, if not the rings serve absolutely no threat. Once the Covenant find out that they need Humans to activate the ring for their holy journey we get Halo 2 and 3. Retconning that deletes the backbone of the story and you are left with two warring factions unleashing a cosmic horror. Fine but remember how they are dealt with at the end of 3?
IMO this feeds into the theory that the prequel was repurposed from a scrapped DLC campaign for Infinite. Williams was probably meant to be a "replacement" for Johnson [In the same vein as The Weapon/Joy being a replacement Cortana] with the whole thing presumably taking place on that unidentified covenant cruiser seen floating around Zeta Halo's skybox.
I also theorize that in this original take, the Prophet of Harmony was going to be a delusional fuckwit who was trying to "restore" the covenant the way it used to be [Hence his anachronistically acting as though he already knew Chief and referring to him as the "Demon," while giving his out-of-character "diversity is our strength" speech.] and even going as far as capturing Banished Brutes and lobotomizing/mind-controlling them. [Hence the remote controlled Were-Banes he throws at Chief in this mission.]
You're thinking of Melissa McKay. She was the first Lieutenant for the Pillar of Autumns ODST detachment in Halo: The Flood. She was a pretty good character all things considered. She was also the executive officer to the Spartan hating Major Silva.
And yeah she detonated a grenade to cripple the Truth and Reconciliation to prevent it from taking off and taking the Flood off world, since Silva wouldn't listen and thought Oni would reward him for bringing the highly infectious parasite to Earth.
Speaking of the books, I was thinking of finishing reading them at some point. I started reading a couple, but there is so many now that I can't keep up. Does anyone have a good infographic on which books to read in what chronological order? Also, which ones suck and should be avoided?(I assume most if not all 343 era ones).
Someone on Twitter, though I can't find the tweet. Pointed out that a halo game being #24 most popular on Xbox, on its release week, when NOTHING else has released in the same timeframe to poach players is just fucking sad.
Hell according to True Achievements or whatever they're called it's #12 which is still sad, it also apparently was behind Forza 6 if you compare launches. Though this was for last week.
I have never seen a company hate their flagship franchise like Microsoft and Xbox do with Halo. Why? Why do they hate it so much that each game is more and more shit. Then, they have the gall to just shit on Master Chief who’s basically Xbox’s mascot.
Because Halo falls under NIH, and MS has a long, storied history of buying something that works well, and “Putting our stamp on it” by turning it to total shit.
This applies to their entire business and has since the 1980s. It’s amusing how many gamers are totally ignorant of what a shitshow Microsoft really is behind the scenes.
The Humans not being forerunner completely breaks the story of the games as Forerunners are needed to activate the rings. That's why they needed Master Chief, Keyes or Johnson. Humans are forerunner, if not the rings serve absolutely no threat. Once the Covenant find out that they need Humans to activate the ring for their holy journey we get Halo 2 and 3. Retconning that deletes the backbone of the story and you are left with two warring factions unleashing a cosmic horror. Fine but remember how they are dealt with at the end of 3?
They also just blatantly say it multiple times in the games
Halo 1, 343 Guilty Spark treats you like you should know all Forerunner protocols already but here's the quote that hammers home that humans and forerunners are the same:"You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all our lost time-human history, is it? Fascinating. Oh, how I will enjoy every moment of its categorization. To think that you would destroy this installation, as well as this record... I am shocked. Almost too shocked for words."
Halo 2: "Earth... to finish what we started. And this time, none of you will be left behind..."
"I? I am a monument to all your sins." (The reason I put this here is because it is said directly to Chief, a human, by humanities/the forerunners ancient enemy.
Halo 3 where it is most blatant: Truth: (gets up, and walks to Johnson) "I admit, I need your help." (A Pelican appears, rapidly approaching the window behind them. It goes unnoticed.) "But that secret dies with all the rest."
"Your forefathers wisely set aside their compassion... steeled themselves for what needed to be done. i see now why they left you behind. You were weak... and gods must be strong."
"Child of my enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness... a father's sins, passed to his son."
"You are the child of my makers. Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner! But this ring... is mine!"
Speaking of the books, I was thinking of finishing reading them at some point. I started reading a couple, but there is so many now that I can't keep up. Does anyone have a good infographic on which books to read in what chronological order? Also, which ones suck and should be avoided?(I assume most if not all 343 era ones).
Yeah, I was dumbass kid and overlooked the "We are the Forerunners" stuff. I thought we were just chosen as their successors and moved on because I didn't really care about the Forerunner stuff. I cared about saving humanity. The Forerunner stuff was cool and alien to me and I wanted it to always be that way. Now, looking back with people slapping me in the face with the obvious stuff I'm like "Oh shit, yeah, that does make a lot of sense."
Personally, and I know this is going to get me firing lined by Halo 1 Shotgun, but I don't mind Forerunners being a different species than humanity. I do mind learning so much shit about them in the 343 stuff. Do not explain them. Keep them a mysterious ancient species that died out well before Humanity took to the stars. Stop explaining the ancient species, everyone who does so sucks at it!
