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GLITCH Productions - From the guys that brought you the Super Mario 64 bloopers
Weirdly contrarian when most of the people upset about it are angry that Arin is involved while he's saying "Poor Arin and Ross have to work with this bigot"
He was listed in the end credits IIRC
It's because Ross won't keep his mouth shut on Xitter Ver archivo adjunto 9072681
Also likely associated with why he wanted Vinny to voice her dad
You can make a fictional world and can have it be anything you want but you choose to constrain yourself by making it have direct analogues to real countries.
This only makes sense if the show is deliberately analogous to the real world like how Avatar the Last Airbender is inspired by Asian culture, but there's no reason an alien cat girl needs to be half Italian half Mexican.
You can make a fictional world and can have it be anything you want but you choose to constrain yourself by making it have direct analogues to real countries.
This only makes sense if the show is deliberately analogous to the real world like how Avatar the Last Airbender is inspired by Asian culture, but there's no reason an alien cat girl needs to be half Italian half Mexican.
This.
I think Ross knows Xitter goons will lose their minds with more unfunny lewd fanart and wanted to specify that Kit is brown for more free marketing. Kit's last name being Bodega is never mentioned in the pilot or given in the end credits.
He can pull anything out of thin air on social media and his fans will accept it as canon.
Also a little unrelated but from the pilot, Ross and his fans made a big deal out of the visual reference to the 80s Transformers movie, even though none of the context that made the original scene cool was there.
Nothing here was about the villain taking back control from the old subordinate who constantly betrays him and stepping on the meaningless hat. It was just to be a reference.
I think the story would've made more sense if the Syntax were the protagonists if they're trying to be meta about the hero winning being a bad thing
I completely forgot that was going to be a thing. I suppose we'll never know whether Glitch chose to abandon it because Meta Runner isn't as successful as their current stuff, or if it's because Theo's VA refused to do any more work for Glitch after the incident with Tari's VA, and replacing her would only bring attention to that old incident
I like the special kind of goofy stupid logic of the mom being latina because named after tina.
...And now knowledge of this is just reminding me of how I found out the vgcats guy went schizo after having to draw porn of the funny cat characters he based on his real life pets that died a few years back. fuck.
Also a little unrelated but from the pilot, Ross and his fans made a big deal out of the visual reference to the 80s Transformers movie, even though none of the context that made the original scene cool was there.
Nothing here was about the villain taking back control from the old subordinate who constantly betrays him and stepping on the meaningless hat. It was just to be a reference.
I'm completely detached from whatever space these guys are talking in but I noticed that blatant direct reference shot and was wondering why the fuck it was there.
Also you forgot to mention the thing it's referencing is specifically him bouncing back from getting tossed into the fucking void of space which is basically the final straw for him as to why he just fucking ices the bastard
Also you forgot to mention the thing it's referencing is specifically him bouncing back from getting tossed into the fucking void of space which is basicallyt he final straw for him as to why he just fucking ices the bastard
You're right.
Starscream's death is iconic and I definitely see potential in stories that pay homage to that scene. This didn't do anything to earn it though. The villain didn't do anything to overthrow a coward who boasted that he's better than him by default after leaving him for dead. It comes off as misinterpreting the scene
It sounds more like it isn't canon just some Xitter autism what ifs. Unless he takes it further and put it in the show that Kit is LatinX. It isn't canon in my book.
This.
I think Ross knows Xitter goons will lose their minds with more unfunny lewd fanart and wanted to specify that Kit is brown for more free marketing. Kit's last name being Bodega is never mentioned in the pilot or given in the end credits.
He can pull anything out of thin air on social media and his fans will accept it as canon.
I'm wondering whether or not after Digital Circus wraps up, Glitch decides to get to work on Gaslight District. That show is getting dangerously close to having the longest gap between Pilot and 2nd episode of any Glitch show (The current holder of that title is Murder Drones at 13 months and 19 days. Gaslight District was 13 months and 10 days ago).
From what I can tell, Gaslight District did pretty badly merch-wise (At least compared to Knights of Guinevere and GameOverse), but as the oldest pilot they have, Glitch has an obligation to give it attention if they really believe in their whole "We help artists speak" ideal. Alternatively, Glitch can confirm everything folks have been saying about how despicable they really are by skipping over GD and KoG and cutting straight to giving GameOverse a full show because of how much money it makes.
Gaslight is in this bad spot where it's actually really weird, original but doesn't strike the brainrot nerve like murder drones or tadc nor has an association with popular internet creator like KoG/Gameoverse so does so it started with a small modest fandom that isn't self sustainable.
Glitch idea of "show a pilot and let the fandom build itself for a whole year" didn't really work with gaslight. Anyone who cared is waiting in silence, anyone who doesn't care is probably not changing their minds at this point.
I think glitch will still make it because they already built the bed and must lie on it but i wouldn't be surprised if it takes some significant changes after the pilot, especially lower budget or changes to be more "marketable".
Also a little unrelated but from the pilot, Ross and his fans made a big deal out of the visual reference to the 80s Transformers movie, even though none of the context that made the original scene cool was there.
Nothing here was about the villain taking back control from the old subordinate who constantly betrays him and stepping on the meaningless hat. It was just to be a reference.
Ross tweeted some time ago bragging that people are not catching all his references, then later tweeted that the island was a reference to an island in an old pc engine point and click game (a small island with 1 palm tree).
Even ignoring how old that is, it's completely irrelevant and that's kinda the issue with all these "jokes"/references. That's all they are. There is no setup or punchline. They simply come without any rhyme or reason, it doesn't even pull the nostalgia strings well.
Like, the spaceship pulls a wrench and hits itself to repair. This is a reference to engineer from team fortress 2 repairing his turrets... That's it. I don't know why it would do that, or why it can grow arms and legs, or why kit even has a spaceship in the first place if her game is like mega man and doesn't take place in space. But okay. I understood the reference. Good job?
It's like you asked AI to write a show like people think Ian Flynn writes sonic comics, but even ian can land a shallow reference and take traumatized lesbians more seriously.
Gameoverse is so weird cause it's technically super popular but feels like it has no "fandom", only people who support it for the sake of it and for their own internet idendity. It has no tumblr sexy man, no real fanfics, no real AUs, etc. It has fanartists sure but it's mostly crossfandom slop that doesn't require you to watch the pilot.
Compare it to something like hazbin hotel, that has a terrible fandom sure but one that actually feels organic and not astroturfed.
My best guess is that they're all being a fandom over the "potential" it's got. Because the potential is there in concept (even if it's falling fairly flat in execution so far) because the tons of fanart is all vague crossover material, also because there's nothing else to go off of because they blew their load on one episode. But all they needed was the hype from that trailer (which I guess is actually the real pilot when you think about it, which is also kinda piss poor).
The pilot episode really should have been about Kit and her world, meeting that weirdo Kaboodle, going through silly Megaman tropes, getting to know everyone, and getting pitfall'd every so often by that clearly out-of-place Sephiroth guy who keeps disappearing every time he tries to warn her about something awful about to happen (the horror comes in when he's finally able to speak to her, alone, effortlessly dodging all her attacks, and just as he tries to warn her he just blinks out like he never even existed), then at the end have it be that scene where he finally welcomes her and Kaboodle on the ship. Next episode can be a montage of her processing everything that happened, all while not-Sephiroth explains the Gameoverse to Kaboodle or some shit, and then Kit slowly getting enough of her mojo via training to go on a mission and actually save a world or two.
What bugs me the most is that this isn't a comic. If not a real video game, then should have been a free webcomic, RubberRoss has plenty of popularity to shill his webcomic and get it going, and that way he wouldn't be as constricted by copyright so he could bring in all the actual references he wanted to, and then later get it actually animated, so that you have a clear storyline to base the animation off of.
My best guess is that they're all being a fandom over the "potential" it's got. Because the potential is there in concept (even if it's falling fairly flat in execution so far) because the tons of fanart is all vague crossover material, also because there's nothing else to go off of because they blew their load on one episode. But all they needed was the hype from that trailer (which I guess is actually the real pilot when you think about it, which is also kinda piss poor).
The pilot episode really should have been about Kit and her world, meeting that weirdo Kaboodle, going through silly Megaman tropes, getting to know everyone, and getting pitfall'd every so often by that clearly out-of-place Sephiroth guy who keeps disappearing every time he tries to warn her about something awful about to happen (the horror comes in when he's finally able to speak to her, alone, effortlessly dodging all her attacks, and just as he tries to warn her he just blinks out like he never even existed), then at the end have it be that scene where he finally welcomes her and Kaboodle on the ship. Next episode can be a montage of her processing everything that happened, all while not-Sephiroth explains the Gameoverse to Kaboodle or some shit, and then Kit slowly getting enough of her mojo via training to go on a mission and actually save a world or two.
What bugs me the most is that this isn't a comic. If not a real video game, then should have been a free webcomic, RubberRoss has plenty of popularity to shill his webcomic and get it going, and that way he wouldn't be as constricted by copyright so he could bring in all the actual references he wanted to, and then later get it actually animated, so that you have a clear storyline to base the animation off of.
I get what you mean but i think gameoverse potential is different. When a fandom hypes up potential, it's usually because it actually has a lot of cool characters they love that weren't treated well by the creator.
The posterboy of potential indie was RWBY. It had waifus, unexplored family members, awesome fights, gunblades, unlocking superpowers, animal traits, mysterious magic eyes, toxic ships, multiple villain factions, etc. The writing was bad but the reality was that people would give RWBY a pass if it was still cool, but it became lame and gay so it went to shit. Regardless, it's a universe that lends itself perfectly to create multiple OCs and fix-fics/AUs. A lot of "rwby fans" only write fanfics and don't even watch it.
Gameoverse is kinda awful for that. You have infinite planets but the only thing that matters in all of them is 2 people fighting and who will win. People of different worlds can only meet if one of their worlds is destroyed and can't fundamentally stop the conflict or everyone dies (for reasons unexplained).
Can a hero or villain beat the game without outside input? If so how long does that take? Why are these still games? Do more games/planets appear over time or not? It's a premise that inherently forces the universe to wait for the main characters to appear so stuff can happen.
The story has actual potential but the pilot wasn't that deep, funny or good and i feel people are just imagining a better show here. "What if this cat girl OC helped robotnik beat sonic?" is a fun idea for a gag webcomic or fanfic, it's not a merit of gameoverse. We won't see your favourite videogame characters, we will see shallow parodies of them voiced by arin hanson and youtubers.
This fandom can prove me wrong of course but so far i haven't seen anyone try that hard. This community has one "joke" and it's "I want to spread miss information" that is overused and unfunny and just hornyposting.
Saberspark told me Gameoverse has "potential" but without even saying of what. The reality is that it's "potential" is mostly because it's currently nothing and hopefully it can be something.
Hell, the reason you and others wanted more kit focus is not because Kit is a good character but because she is a nothing character. Nobody gives a fuck about Gobbles cause he isn't traumatized and his world didn't have catgirls.
My best guess is that they're all being a fandom over the "potential" it's got. Because the potential is there in concept (even if it's falling fairly flat in execution so far) because the tons of fanart is all vague crossover material, also because there's nothing else to go off of because they blew their load on one episode. But all they needed was the hype from that trailer (which I guess is actually the real pilot when you think about it, which is also kinda piss poor).
When you have something so inane, trite and "novel" you need to do this. The entire premise is set up to purely place muh OC's in all different cool vista's which will appeal to the average fandom retard and get them to spend money on the merch. I cannot imagine greenlighting this show other than this, no way he has enough nepotistic sway to get Glitch to give him money and resources to make this.
Hell, the reason you and others wanted more kit focus is not because Kit is a good character but because she is a nothing character. Nobody gives a fuck about Gobbles cause he isn't traumatized and his world didn't have catgirls.
I just want an actual character arc if they're gonna try and make this show "deep" or some shit, so naturally you want an arc for the flagship character first.
I'd be all for Gobbles too, his arc got open and shut really awkwardly as well. More time could easily be spent on his world too, from dumbass educational game jokes to him actually being willing to listen to reason at first but the universe itself is constantly stacked against him trying to learn the truth, so he gets more and more stubborn about it.
So do they really just accept that they are just video game characters simply meant to serve roles in their video game world, like that concept is just normalized in their universe?, because there's something really existentially terrifying about the fact that everything they have known, all of their friends, family, and even their life mission are just "mechanics" and "quest lines" in some artificial world destined to be destroyed once its over.
Because a lot of the angst seems to be more centered around losing everything they have over than the fact that live inside a video game.
My actual feelings on GameOverse's pilot hasn't changed. I still think it's a lackluster, but ultimately harmless pilot. It's nothing special, but not the worst thing ever. But God, the more often I run into GameOverse crossover art when I'm just hanging around video game circles, the more I hate that this show is what it is.
Gameoverse is so weird cause it's technically super popular but feels like it has no "fandom", only people who support it for the sake of it and for their own internet idendity. It has no tumblr sexy man, no real fanfics, no real AUs, etc. It has fanartists sure but it's mostly crossfandom slop that doesn't require you to watch the pilot.
This puts it best. GameOverse feels like it doesn't stand on its own. Its popularity is built on the foundation of "potential" and riding the coattails of other fandoms. That "potential" is explored by fanartists making Kit just show up in people's favorite video games and have surface level interactions with the hero/villain. When other people in the same fandom to see it, they feel encouraged to check out GameOverse themselves, building up GameOverse's popularity further
I've said it before, but Kit's trauma just... happening in the pilot feels like a ploy to quickly build up sympathy for her without actually spending time or effort to build her up. It's a particularly effective way to quickly catch the attention of people who only cared about GameOverse because their own fandom briefly overlapped with it.
Ross did an "interview" with his own vtuber girlfriend about thepilot show, i didn't watch it, only glanced the transcript. (edit i watched most of it)
Some interesting takes i saw
1-The gameoverse logo was made by Ross and Goose while they were in nightclub in las vegas while furries and women dance aroung them
2-Gobbles didn't originally look like an ipad baby but Ross thought it would be funny. He was also originally simply "going to be there". They reworked the scene so they can explain how the planets work.
I actually listened to these lines and while it's interesting, the way ross talks so nonchalantly gives me the sense that a lot of this shit was improvised on the spot. I assume this is why Gobbles isn't traumatized, his backstory wasn't meant to exist... which is retarded way to handle one of your main characters.
3-Kit eats hot dogs. She only made juiceboxes cause gobbles is a baby. I'm not sure ross even likes gobbles cause he keeps shitting on him.
4-Ross got praised for naming the villain ship syntax and shaping it like an apostrophe. It was literally an accident. He had no idea for a design and found a png of a bee and drew something like that and added metal parts.
5-Apparently a big inspiration for gameoverse was star trek (???) and the stuff kaboodle was fixing was a reference to unreal engine node programing. Good job to the people who got the reference i guess.
6-Ross says that Warrick "isn't a bad guy, he is just ya know, a genocidal maniac". This is funny because there is a popular theory that Warrick was the hero of his world (cause people can't handle the idea of the main villain being this shallow)
7-Some random fluff. Crabgirl was voiced by a dude in the game grumps office back in 2017. The dum dum line was Chris Sabat improving. The gull was voiced by gaslight district creator etc.
8-Ross told alenah pierce, the voice of the spaceship, to "try to sound like hatsune miku" (???)
9-Ross says they can breath underwater because it was their planets that dictated wether they need to breathe and now their planets are gone so they don't need to breath (i have no idea how this works. Surely it won't be a plot hole later right?).
10-Ross refers to the tails get trolled reference as "potentially problematic webcomic reference". The idea was Arin's and ross found it funny. edit: it was just a sketch arin made as a joke but ross wanted it in the show.
11-Ross originally wanted Vinesauce vinnie to keep saying a bunch of pizza flavours as a joke but it would ruin the emotional bits of the next scene (i'm afraid it was ruined either way)
12-Ross says he reanimated scenes late in production of Fold getting squeezed and burned in order to explain why Fold punched flappers at the end. Silly me for thinking it was because Fold is a villain!
13-Ross says he didn't want kit's blaster to sound like megaman so he made it sound like his own cat purring. Sorry ross, i missed that one.
14-There is a lot of "I added that thing last minute. It wasn't there originally but i thought it was funny".
15-Kit was originally meant to say "that was actually more cool than it sound" to gobbles speech, and people actually told ross that was awful and ross said that was the point, but he removed because he didn't want Kit to sound unlikable and picked a take where gobbles sounds coolest.
(what was ross even thinking with gobbles? It's like he really wanted gobbles to be a cringy loser but they stopped him)
16-Ross says the male seahorse that gobbles rode was pregnant. "If you thought we wouldn't put Mpreg in gameoverse, you are wrong".
17-Ross says he wanted the final fight to be an escalation of all the game mechanics but didn't want the it to be "sakuga anime fight" and more grounded. This is his "vision" because "cartoon shows never take game mechanics seriously".
I have no idea wtf Ross is talking about. Flappers is set up to be able to tackle, tail swipe enemies/bombs and water tornado projectiles and then he wins the fight by literally punching the boss fireball back. Not only is this the most retarded anime ending ever, it's not consistent with the few vague and arbitrary rules you set up.
This is like watching Mario suddendly being able to jump on bowser fireballs.
18-Apparently there is a floaty (those skullbots) had a bunch of color errors. The white one was supposed to be the common one but it somehow became the rarest and lead to continuity errors.
19-Ross complains about people missing how snappers was taken by sintax and even strawmans a dumb voice mocking them. Even then it's not his fault because animation is expensive (what is this, vivziepop?)
20-Ross watched the pilot release inside a theater with his family (lol).
21-Ross says that the problem with the industry is that when creators want to make stuff for holywood, they receive too many executives notes and audience testing and this dilutes the creator vision by trying to appeal to everyone and in the end you appeal to no one. It's a game of money and people don't want to gamble on creative ideas.
I think this sounds noble at first but Ross puts it in such a black and white "i am the indie underdog uwu" way that makes me disagree out of spite. The Evil Executives are not "the enemy of creativity", they're trying to make your shit actually suceed and usually they have a point.
Avatar the last air bender didn't originally have zuko. He was made because execs wanted a recurring villain around Aang's age. Nowadays it's impossible to even imagine avatar without zuko.
Editors get a lot of flak but if it wasn't for them a lot of famous stuff would've died. Naruto for example had editors basically morph it into a different manga with cool rivals and tournaments and it was a massive sucess. When kishimoto did another manga wirth full freedom, it was slow and boring and flopped so bad it was cancelled.
I'm not saying you have to sell out, but some creators NEED a tard wranger like gooseworx did. It's no wonder no one wanted to pick Ross cartoon, he wasn't going to let anyone "compromise his vision".
If animation is so expensive, then plan your shit. These answers made me seriously doubt that this was in development for years. It seems as though Gameoverse was a Newgrounds animation that’s meant to be a one-time thing, but Ross and whoever brought it back because Kevin walked up and asked, “Wanna make ~cool stuff?~” Redesign Kit and throw lore around all you want, if you put more effort into references than whatever statement you think you’re making, then it’s clear you don’t actually give a fuck. Someone mentioned about a lack of care, and it’s that lack of care that makes it feel astroturfed above all else.
I think this sounds noble at first but Ross puts it in such a black and white "i am the indie underdog uwu" way that makes me disagree out of spite. The Evil Executives are not "the enemy of creativity", they're trying to make your shit actually suceed and usually they have a point.
Avatar the last air bender didn't originally have zuko. He was made because execs wanted a recurring villain around Aang's age. Nowadays it's impossible to even imagine avatar without zuko.
Editors get a lot of flak but if it wasn't for them a lot of famous stuff would've died. Naruto for example had editors basically morph it into a different manga with cool rivals and tournaments and it was a massive sucess. When kishimoto did another manga wirth full freedom, it was slow and boring and flopped so bad it was cancelled.
I'm not saying you have to sell out, but some creators NEED a tard wranger like gooseworx did.
All the indie space has told me is that editors DO have a place. Glitch's whole thing is total creative control so all you get is the most self-indulgent writing possible, manifesting as Troonworx's fetish show, nonstop disney hate, and Ross' show here which seems less like a show and more like 20 minutes of references wearing a trenchcoat.
I'm gonna listen to the BTS myself later as I love hearing the process of creation like this, but its evident these people need some tard-wrangling. One of the best behind-the-scenes to compare this with is the Zack and Mike eps of the Create Unknown Podcast combined with the Directors Commentary of Smiling Friends S1. It creates a great picture of the show and how, while that had a great degree of freedom, they also had to play ball with both television sensors and the Adult Swim execs, and how that process changed and refined various aspects.
When you're at this point, you've lost any actual plot of creating something your own and you need to be tied to a chair while an editor hacks all the fat from your creation.
I've seen this expressed elsewhere, but we really need creatives who drink from finer waters. I'm tired of all of "indie" animation being from the same assholes who were on tumblr and played the same video games growing up, and can only interpret the world from that lens. George Lucas read classic scifi like Dune and studied classic film, primarily Kurosawa but also a good deal of Charlie Chaplin, Orsen Wells, as well as storytelling philosophy to make Star Wars. Hayao Miyazaki was inspired by his own post ww2 life, nature, folklore and Aviation Machinery to make his films.
I could sperg about this for hours but there's simply a divine aspect to storytelling none of these mfs have.
