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GLITCH Productions - From the guys that brought you the Super Mario 64 bloopers
the problem with the industry is that when creators want to make stuff for holywood, they receive too many executives notes and audience testing and this dilutes the creator vision by trying to appeal to everyone and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
15-Kit was originally meant to say "that was actually more cool than it sound" to gobbles speech, and people actually told ross that was awful and ross said that was the point, but he removed because he didn't want Kit to sound unlikable and picked a take where gobbles sounds coolest.
21-Ross says that the problem with the industry is that when creators want to make stuff for holywood, they receive too many executives notes and audience testing and this dilutes the creator vision by trying to appeal to everyone and in the end you appeal to no one. It's a game of money and people don't want to gamble on creative ideas.
I think this sounds noble at first but Ross puts it in such a black and white "i am the indie underdog uwu" way that makes me disagree out of spite. The Evil Executives are not "the enemy of creativity", they're trying to make your shit actually suceed and usually they have a point.
"Someone pointed out a flaw in my vision, and how it makes my work look less appealing, so I changed it"
"I hate that Evil Executives and Editors(TM) keep pointing out flaws in people's vision to make them more appealing. Creators shouldn't change things"
It sucks that editors and executives usually mandate changes, their ideas aren't always great, and in some cases the changes are less so to make it good and more to make it marketable (By the way Ross, how are you enjoying the cash you're raking in from GameOverse merch) Even so, the intended purpose behind them is to refine your work in a way that makes them better. Complaining about editors mandating changes is fine, but saying they should NEVER ask for changes, or that ALL changes from an editor is bad is taking it a bit far.
Ross is aware that having people suggest changes, instead of just going off on what he thinks is funny is necessary to make GameOverse the best it could be. But whether it's something he honestly believes in, or him trying to appeal to the indie mentality of "Executives bad", he refuses to acknowledge the fact that editors are anything more than greedy soulless dollar-sign eyed monsters that will ALWAYS ruin your work if they ever get involved.
Also thank fuck Ross went through with removing that line from Kit. The trauma scene is badly executed enough, we did NOT need a snarky quip to take away what little sincerity that scene actually had.
If animation is so expensive, then plan your shit. These answers made me seriously doubt that this was in development for years. It seems as though Gameoverse was a Newgrounds animation that’s meant to be a one-time thing, but Ross and whoever brought it back because Kevin walked up and asked, “Wanna make ~cool stuff?~” Redesign Kit and throw lore around all you want, if you put more effort into references than whatever statement you think you’re making, then it’s clear you don’t actually give a fuck. Someone mentioned about a lack of care, and it’s that lack of care that makes it feel astroturfed above all else.
If i had to guess, it was originally a shitty flash thing but 2015 we started seeing web series actually hit mainstream sucess like rwby (and ross was allegedly friends with monty) so he probably wanted to join and create his own web series. Ross probably barely had anything planned at the time, was rejected by everyone and gave up on gameoverse for years. It wasn't until 2023 when
1-Hazbin hotel was announced for Amazon Prime
2-TADC exploded in popularity
Where suddendly the dream of having your shitty indie cartoon funded with creative freedom became a real possibility, and ross started to up his game and tried to get with glitch.
It's not even a random guess, it actually matches how Kit's design changed over time. Her original design range from 2015-16 then it jumps all the way to late 2023, implying that ross didn't touch gameoverse for 7~ years.
And you're right, i watched more and it's bizarre how ross talks about videogame references with so much joy in his heart but when he talks about actual writing or personality it sounds like he doesn't give a fuck.
Like, at no point does Ross ever comments on kit's trauma or any serious scene. I didnt dodge those topics. Ex:
-Gobbles wasn't even meant to have a backstory and he is a joke you're supposed to laugh at.
-Kit's PTSD is completely sandbagged by Ross admitting he wished vinesauce vinny talked more about pizza.
-Kit revealing the truth and ross flexes how good the animation is and not 3d and he has that animator friend...
-The only comment on gobbles therapy speech is that it was meant to be more cynical but they made him change cause Kit sounded mean.
-Flappers watches his planet explode and ross finds it hilarious.
I'm not saying ross had to be pretentious gloomy artsty about it but you'd think he would comment his thoughts on at least one of those things. Even a lazy "we worked really hard to convey how scared Kit is in this scene" or "Arin really sold this line, very emotional" would be fine.
It makes me theorize that Ross never intented to make this show about trauma, lore or existencialism.
He probably only wanted to make shallow videogame reference adventure but glitch forced him to give the MC trauma... Which would argueably make gameoverse the "Reverse Digital Circus".
Ross did an "interview" with his own vtuber girlfriend about thepilot show, i didn't watch it, only glanced the transcript. (edit i watched most of it)
Not gonna lie, this interview actually severely degraded my opinion of this show and what it could be in the future, he doesn't seem to be that interested in many aspects like the worldbuilding and character specifics that are simply thrown together with not much thought put into, you know, the essential building blocks of making a fictional universe feel real and something people can actually sink themselves into, and instead prefers to talk about the niche video game references he wrote in.
References are fun, and if you get it, its a cheeky little thing that tells you a little bit about the creator's personal tastes and interests, but no fucking way its the only thing that someone can care about.
Nah, it's so over now. This shit's just gonna have the worst pacing like Digital Circus now that we know what's behind the scenes. Just watch Reboot instead.
Alternatively I wish I could get a megaphone and yell in Ross's ear about how to actually make this half-decent and then the producers behind Glitch that not everything's gotta be gay-ass trauma.
The only way this can be salvaged, at the risk of sounding retarded, is getting ideas from the pre-timeskip One Piece manga where it knew when to do silly bullshit and then segway into serious stuff with Japanese puns.
Of course the reason why I even want it to be salvaged at this point is because I've got fatigue of shitty shows getting funding because people knew where to suck the right dicks in furry strip clubs.
It perplexes me that Kit isn’t a robot cat since she’s based off Megaman and her backstory is based off Megaman Legends apparently. All the character designs don’t go far enough and come off as generic as fuck for a videogame parody cartoon.
Hell I touched her design up to look like a robot so you‘d get the feeling that she’s a parody of megaman.
This pilot is so half assed that if it gets a full run, it’s gonna crash EVEN HARDER than TADC…..
It perplexes me that Kit isn’t a robot cat since she’s based off Megaman and her backstory is based off Megaman Legends apparently. All the character designs don’t go far enough and come off as generic as fuck for a videogame parody cartoon.
Hell I touched her design up to look like a robot so you‘d get the feeling that she’s a parody of megaman. Ver archivo adjunto 9082747
This pilot is so half assed that if it gets a full run, it’s gonna crash EVEN HARDEE than TADC…..
I hard wish she looked like this. There's plenty of standout features that would make a memorable design here instead of just being a furry girl.
Adapting the Rush transformations to her changing into different vehicles is also clever. Reminds me of Doraemon
In the vein the Enterprise will frequently visit a new planet and experience its gimmick for the episode's plot, it sounds to me Kit and co. will visit a new game every episode with inevitable attempts to poke fun at a genre or setting.
Also thank fuck Ross went through with removing that line from Kit. The trauma scene is badly executed enough, we did NOT need a snarky quip to take away what little sincerity that scene actually had.
It perplexes me that Kit isn’t a robot cat since she’s based off Megaman and her backstory is based off Megaman Legends apparently. All the character designs don’t go far enough and come off as generic as fuck for a videogame parody cartoon.
Hell I touched her design up to look like a robot so you‘d get the feeling that she’s a parody of megaman. Ver archivo adjunto 9082747
This pilot is so half assed that if it gets a full run, it’s gonna crash EVEN HARDEE than TADC…..
1-good art man. I like how she transforms like rush cause you know, robots do that.
2-It's not that perplexing. Ross obviously wanted the furry porn crowd so he made sure Kit doesn't have ANY robotic detail.
Notice how her rival is clearly a full robot and the people from her village have legit prosthetics, but Kit is a literally a generic catgirl cosplaying.
Ross is such a coward that he couldn't even make her a real cyborg.
It perplexes me that Kit isn’t a robot cat since she’s based off Megaman and her backstory is based off Megaman Legends apparently. All the character designs don’t go far enough and come off as generic as fuck for a videogame parody cartoon.
Hell I touched her design up to look like a robot so you‘d get the feeling that she’s a parody of megaman. Ver archivo adjunto 9082747
This pilot is so half assed that if it gets a full run, it’s gonna crash EVEN HARDER than TADC…..
It perplexes me that Kit isn’t a robot cat since she’s based off Megaman and her backstory is based off Megaman Legends apparently. All the character designs don’t go far enough and come off as generic as fuck for a videogame parody cartoon.
Hell I touched her design up to look like a robot so you‘d get the feeling that she’s a parody of megaman. Ver archivo adjunto 9082747
This pilot is so half assed that if it gets a full run, it’s gonna crash EVEN HARDER than TADC…..
Which is what gets me because she actually USED to be part cyborg in her first design that was linked earlier. I don't even get the "dude we gotta make her goonbait" argument considering degenerates will go jerkin the gherkin to the actual stick figure that is Pomni.
Probably TMI to say but it's the truth, why take all the personality out when the inevitable's gonna happen regardless of whether or not you've made goonbait? Now all you've done with your millions of views is encourage people to dump their unique designs for generic animal-girls because that's what sells merch apparently.
Now this is what I meant by "they should've taken the 2015 design and hone it around that". Great stuff.
If Gameoverse started out in Kit's world, with that design as the general world choice, and then we had wack-ass not-Sephiroth guy running around who clearly isn't a robot (I guess Alucard if the design docs are anything to go by, so clearly using dark magic) but something else trying to warn her, that alone would have set up more mystery than the entire long, wet fart that was this pilot.
One aspect of this show I wanted to point out that will likely be "lorebait":
Kit received visions of similarity to her own home via Flappers's village with his NPCs clearly linking up to her own family. You'd think that would kickstart discussion on the meta of video game lore, especially the old-school ones Ross is clearly taking inspiration from, right? Everything from how barebones stories could be back in the day, to the fact some only existed as an excuse for gameplay and creators clearly didn't care about them, to the unsettling realization Kit must face that ALL these realities could feel or are copy-paste and what it means to be in/as/a video game.
But the likelihood this'll be dived into? Not much... much less anytime soon. As TADC showed, these creators clearly care more on their jingling keys, cool/meme scenes than an actual story and themes therein. I don't expect this aspect to ever really be brought up again - I'll be happy to be proven wrong but confident I won't be.
21-Ross says that the problem with the industry is that when creators want to make stuff for holywood, they receive too many executives notes and audience testing and this dilutes the creator vision by trying to appeal to everyone and in the end you appeal to no one. It's a game of money and people don't want to gamble on creative ideas.
I think this sounds noble at first but Ross puts it in such a black and white "i am the indie underdog uwu" way that makes me disagree out of spite. The Evil Executives are not "the enemy of creativity", they're trying to make your shit actually suceed and usually they have a point.
This is ironic given Gameoverse comes across as one of the most pandering cartoons I've seen in quite some time and feels like it was designed as a product and not a work of art.
Which is what gets me because she actually USED to be part cyborg in her first design that was linked earlier. I don't even get the "dude we gotta make her goonbait" argument considering degenerates will go jerkin the gherkin to the actual stick figure that is Pomni.
Probably TMI to say but it's the truth, why take all the personality out when the inevitable's gonna happen regardless of whether or not you've made goonbait? Now all you've done with your millions of views is encourage people to dump their unique designs for generic animal-girls because that's what sells merch apparently.
The argument exists because Ross really decided to have his "megaman inspired" character be a catgirl who spends most of her screentime wearing a bikini. But you're probably right and i'm thinking backwards.
The most logical and boring reason for Kit is not a robot is so she can wear costumes. But why would she wear costumes? So ross can make videogame cosplay references on demand and glitch can sell an infinite variety of plushies. She can already switch to clothes without blasters when that makes no sense in-universe (i thought ross hated when cartoons don't respect game mechanics?).
I fear that Gameoverse will eventually give up the mega man inspiration and morph Kit into a pseudo mario where she gets different costumes with different powers every planet.
For reasons probably obvious to people who have read the thread I'm very curious to see if there's anything in there we didn't know and or confirms my suspicions about what went so fucking wrong with the series and or how we got what we got, ect.
I await with great interest.
Send the larping robo-NIGGER to the chinks as a snack 
