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Well his dad did go under name Pegasus Kid with a mask so there's that. But generally speaking in regards to Mexico and Japan is the Benoit thing carry the same stigma as it does in the US/Canada or at least what the WWE wants us to accept.
 
Martys_not_smarty dijo:
Well his dad did go under name Pegasus Kid with a mask so there's that. But generally speaking in regards to Mexico and Japan is the Benoit thing carry the same stigma as it does in the US/Canada or at least what the WWE wants us to accept.
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I don't know about the rest of the wrestling world, but in America it still does. I can't think of anyone in the business saying we should cut him some slack, he had brain damage. Which we should, don't get me wrong, but it's really fucking hard.
 
Quoookie dijo:
I know it ain't gonna happen but pulling for Joe to beat the living shit out of Kofi and win the belt. Even if he ends up losing at Summerslam to Roman or even Brock. It would be something special for Joe. At this point in the company he is in being a transitional champ is really something for him. Maybe get the title back at Survivor Series...lose it at the Rumble type shit. I know Vince ain't having any of that shit but one can still hope right? maybe just invest totally in Joe for 5-6 months. If not I hope Joe at least stays in the world title picture til he retires. Kinda like Kane once was way back when. Give him a proper send off unlike Kane though say if all my wishful doesn't come to be at Mania next year. I would be satisfied him and Ricochet once more too. That has more than potential there too. Like Last Man Standing or Ladder match. Thoughts are all over the place but Joe deserves that much. He ain't got 10 more yrs so I gotta hope.
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Plus, the heat Joe would get for ending Kofi's championship reign will help make him reviled by fans.
 
So, uh...Tommy Dreamer

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When ECW went out of business I was 29 years old. I had a lot of my money, my parents’ money, trying to float the company. Paul Heyman, who I thought me and him were super tight, he screwed me over big time. He was in the WWE, the whole time. I had turned down hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to WCW. And now was unemployed. I went from a $750,000 offer, and Paul Heyman crying to me, that if I leave ECW, it will go out of business. Meanwhile, he was getting a paycheck from WWE. I don’t begrudge him, but then I did. I was depressed as depressed can be. I had women, I had fame, I had everything and yet it was the worst time of my life. It really was. I was doing indies, making decent money on the indies. But, I lived at home…

This is crazy for me to admit it, but I am doing it for a reason, just like I admitted to other things previously. Wrestlemania Houston (X7) Paul Heyman told me I was going to debut. All this stuff, when they had TLC and Spike Dudley came in, and Rhyno came in, and Lita came in. That was supposed to be my spot and then uh, that got ixnayed. Then there was gonna be a hardcore 24/7 thing, that was gonna be “all about you”. That was when I was supposed to debut. I remember I did a show there, and I saw a sign that said “Guns Welcome” and I was in Houston. I did an indie show, and I said: “What is this?” I’m from New York, what do you mean “Guns Welcome?” and they said “Oh you are allowed to bring a firearm into the venue.

I was across the street from the Astrodome. When I tell you it resonated in my head so, so much. That I’ll tell you what I wanted to do. It’s sick that I think this. At Wrestlemania, I was gonna hop the rail and I was gonna whack Paul E. in the back of the head right at the announce table, then I was gonna whack myself. The ultimate martyr, I was gonna hit my pose crack, boom, pull the trigger. Because I was that insane.

Don’t know if I would have went through with it, but that’s what I was thinking about every day. I was like “I will go down in history.” Pop, boom. First, they’d think it as an angle until I shot him. I was so severely depressed and so mental with rage, I needed help. That help came from a phone call from Jim Ross. Randomly I get a phone call from a number I didn’t know… I didn’t pick up, and I remember having these thoughts, and it was bad. I had a gun, I was psssh man. Could you think about the horribleness that I would have done for my legacy?

I would have ruined Wrestlemania, which I love Wrestlemania. For everybody. These thoughts were so so crazed in my head. How dare that person, he screwed my parents over and I come from a mobster mentality. In my head, I was like “I would become infamous.” Which is famous for the wrong reason. I’m glad I didn’t do it. But when that phone call came from Jim Ross. Again, just said leave a message. It said “Hey Tommy it’s Jim Ross, just want to let you know, we are still thinking about you, we are gonna get it done, just got to hang tight. Thank you.
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Is this for real? Is this just a rib?
 
Nacho Man Randy Salsa dijo:
I'm not surprised. People like to throw the words cult and drinking the kool-aid when it comes to ECW, but people just have no idea how true those claims are. Out of all the kool-aid drinkers Dreamer was probably the biggest one, the biggest mark in the entire ECW locker room.
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I recall watching one of the original ECW documentaries WWE released in the 2000's, and the former original ECW talent talking how they had to take on extra work like selling clothes and what not just to make ends meet! That would suck destroying your body just to make next to nothing.
 
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Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff to run WWE TV programs

WWE shakeup: Paul Heyman will run Monday Night Raw, Eric Bischoff to run SmackDown Live!
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WWE has named Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff as Executive Directors, Sports Illustrated has learned.
Heyman is set to become Executive Director of Monday Night Raw, while Bischoff will fill the same role for SmackDown Live. Both will report directly to WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon.
WWE confirmed the news with Sports Illustrated, with an official announcement expected later today.
The two positions are full-time executive roles, with no plans at the current time for this to be introduced as part of a TV storyline.
Heyman overseeing the creative development of Raw is scintillating news for wrestling fans. Best known as a pioneer for his innovative work as ECW president from 1993-2001, Heyman took the company to unfathomable heights on pay-per-view and through a national cable television deal with TNN. He is a must-see attraction as an on-screen performer as the advocate for Brock Lesnar, but Heyman’s longest-lasting work happens off-camera with the character development of many on the WWE roster.
Bischoff will also work directly with executives from FOX, which will air SmackDown Live beginning this October.
The former WCW president, immortal in the industry for igniting the New World Order storyline, started a wrestling war in 1995 against Vince McMahon’s WWE on Monday nights. With Bischoff in charge, WCW’s Nitroeven defeated McMahon’s Monday Night Raw in the television ratings for 83 consecutive weeks. Bischoff made his WWE debut in the summer of 2002, appearing as the Raw General Manager. His full-time run with the company ended in 2007, though he has made the occasional return, most recently during the Raw 25th Anniversary show in January of 2018.
Bischoff is a valuable addition for WWE. Most recently, he lent his expertise to Conrad Thompson’s 83 Weeks podcast on Westwood One, as well as delivered a TEDx Talk last November on how the news media is copying from the pro wrestling blueprint. A former New York Times bestselling author, Bischoff is also serving as a producer for the upcoming Hulk Hogan biopic, where Chris Hemsworth is set to play Hogan.
• Listen to WWE Universal champion Seth Rollins on this week's SI Media Podcast.

The move also allows WWE to further establish two distinct brands on Rawand SmackDown, ones that are immediately recognizable for their storytelling, wrestling, and ability to captivate on a weekly basis.
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Panic mode has set in, Heyman is now in charge of RAW, Bischoff on Smackdown.
 
Nacho Man Randy Salsa dijo:
www.si.com

Paul Heyman, Eric Bischoff to run WWE TV programs

WWE shakeup: Paul Heyman will run Monday Night Raw, Eric Bischoff to run SmackDown Live!
www.si.com www.si.com
WWE has named Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff as Executive Directors, Sports Illustrated has learned.
Heyman is set to become Executive Director of Monday Night Raw, while Bischoff will fill the same role for SmackDown Live. Both will report directly to WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon.
WWE confirmed the news with Sports Illustrated, with an official announcement expected later today.
The two positions are full-time executive roles, with no plans at the current time for this to be introduced as part of a TV storyline.
Heyman overseeing the creative development of Raw is scintillating news for wrestling fans. Best known as a pioneer for his innovative work as ECW president from 1993-2001, Heyman took the company to unfathomable heights on pay-per-view and through a national cable television deal with TNN. He is a must-see attraction as an on-screen performer as the advocate for Brock Lesnar, but Heyman’s longest-lasting work happens off-camera with the character development of many on the WWE roster.
Bischoff will also work directly with executives from FOX, which will air SmackDown Live beginning this October.
The former WCW president, immortal in the industry for igniting the New World Order storyline, started a wrestling war in 1995 against Vince McMahon’s WWE on Monday nights. With Bischoff in charge, WCW’s Nitroeven defeated McMahon’s Monday Night Raw in the television ratings for 83 consecutive weeks. Bischoff made his WWE debut in the summer of 2002, appearing as the Raw General Manager. His full-time run with the company ended in 2007, though he has made the occasional return, most recently during the Raw 25th Anniversary show in January of 2018.
Bischoff is a valuable addition for WWE. Most recently, he lent his expertise to Conrad Thompson’s 83 Weeks podcast on Westwood One, as well as delivered a TEDx Talk last November on how the news media is copying from the pro wrestling blueprint. A former New York Times bestselling author, Bischoff is also serving as a producer for the upcoming Hulk Hogan biopic, where Chris Hemsworth is set to play Hogan.
• Listen to WWE Universal champion Seth Rollins on this week's SI Media Podcast.

The move also allows WWE to further establish two distinct brands on Rawand SmackDown, ones that are immediately recognizable for their storytelling, wrestling, and ability to captivate on a weekly basis.
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Panic mode has set in, Heyman is now in charge of RAW, Bischoff on Smackdown.
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If Heyman can do for RAW what he did for Smackdown years ago, than it might finally be worth watching.
 
He's capable, but I have my doubts because at the end of the day Vince still has final say. If Vince is still going to toss everything out right at air time as usual then what's the point in using Heyman's talents? As for Bischoff, his talent isn't in booking, but in dealing with networks, which is what is needed when dealing with an entity like FOX. Maybe he has a few good ideas in terms of production and presentation, but we'll see.
 
Martys_not_smarty dijo:
The Invasion PPV did get the highest non Wrestlemania buyrate in the companies history so who knows. These are some interesting times for the business and time will tell in the coming months.
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October is when the Dynamite explodes.
How ironic is it that Bischoff is supposedly going to Smackdown, where he might be competing against a wrestling show that will be on the same network that hosted the show he made in 1995?
You can't book this any better unless Ted Turner himself comes out and endorses AEW on TNT.
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This is INSANE news. Everybody who read it at first must have assumed it was a prank. However, I'm tentatively optimistic. Anything to lessen the Vince/Steph/Dunne trio's power over the booking and presentation of the shows can only be a good thing.
 
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