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The only thing that offended me about Orton was because of his name and his Hep C daddy, they put the title on him at 24. Youngest champion of all time should be reserved for someone with massive talent, not nepotism.
It was done by Vince so he could erase Brock Lesnar from the record books while they were on bad terms.

Nothing more or less than that figured into Orton getting the belt.
 
tna really needs to die. its time.
It died when Jeff Jarrett was no longer running it. It's been Terry Schiavo ever since.
Isn't this one hell of a flat back bump?

"You got me, brother!"
Every time I hear that story I like to think that Hogan did that just a troll undertaker :lol:
It is likely to be his last match as a full-time wrestler, for sure.

He hasn’t really been the same since his diverticulitis, and he doesn’t want to be remembered as being less than he was in his prime, so I’m guessing Wembley is his swan song.
That makes me so sad, because I love Kenny.
 
It died when Jeff Jarrett was no longer running it. It's been Terry Schiavo ever since.

"You got me, brother!"
Every time I hear that story I like to think that Hogan did that just a troll undertaker :lol:

That makes me so sad, because I love Kenny.
The saddest part is that so few in North America got to see his true prime in NJPW.
 
The saddest part is that so few in North America got to see his true prime in NJPW.
He was so good that Vince did something that he never usually did and actually let Jericho go to Japan while he was under contract and have a match with Kenny.
That was UNHEARD of for Vince. You know there was a small part of him that said "Well, I kind of want to watch this match, pal!"
 
He was so good that Vince did something that he never usually did and actually let Jericho go to Japan while he was under contract and have a match with Kenny.
That was UNHEARD of for Vince. You know there was a small part of him that said "Well, I kind of want to watch this match, pal!"
Jericho was not under contract, and he actually put off signing one because he couldn’t get a carve-out to work NJPW, and Vince rescinded a contract offer because of it.

The NJPW situation and Vince not understanding the idea of a cruise with actual wrestling shows on it were why Jericho decided he wasn’t interested in going back to WWE and deciding to sign on as one of the first AEW roster members.

He would have been an EVP like the Elite members, but he didn’t want to be too tied to the company in case it failed, a decision he has said he feels like an asshole for in hindsight.
 
Jericho was not under contract, and he actually put off signing one because he couldn’t get a carve-out to work NJPW, and Vince rescinded a contract offer because of it.

The NJPW situation and Vince not understanding the idea of a cruise with actual wrestling shows on it were why Jericho decided he wasn’t interested in going back to WWE and deciding to sign on as one of the first AEW roster members.

He would have been an EVP like the Elite members, but he didn’t want to be too tied to the company in case it failed, a decision he has said he feels like an asshole for in hindsight.
Makes more sense. To be fair I was assuming that he was in WWE at the time because this was in an era when I was watching Japanese stuff and I had given up on WWE.
Speaking of WWE I adore that Tony decided to run collision tonight instead of it's usual time because he wants Summerslam to run unopposed so they have nothing to blame the catastrophic failure on.
They aren't even going to be able to say "Well, we lost some viewers because aew ran collision against us." Nope, sorry fella. Collision was on Thursday this week. Tony is giving you the stage uninterrupted to completely fucking bomb.
Where are we at now with two days left to go? 30,000 seats in an 80,000 capacity seat arena? :story:
Too bad HBO owns the trademark to it because they should change the name of their fans from the WWE universe to "The last of us".
 
Vince not understanding the idea of a cruise with actual wrestling shows on it were why Jericho decided he wasn’t interested in going back to WWE and deciding to sign on as one of the first AEW roster members.
Looks like Tony distanced himself self from the cruise idea too, not sure if it because of logistics though.
 
So Val Venis decided to return into some indie wrestling ring, likely for a one off.
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Kidd Bandit was seething as fuck about it though trying to get another troon to copyright strike him for doing his gimmick because they tried to claim Valvenis.com.
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Only for said troon to show that they were rejected from getting the trademark.
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What did Val Venis do to piss off the troons? Did he change the beginning of his theme music to "Hello Biological Ladies" or something?
Hhh was prolly the smartest man alive for not using drugs and alcohol, somebody sober had to carry the cliqs bags
And stay up all night to make sure Shawn Michaels was still breathing and hadn't overdosed on pills.
It was done by Vince so he could erase Brock Lesnar from the record books while they were on bad terms.

Nothing more or less than that figured into Orton getting the belt.
I liked the finish with Orton countering the crippler into an RKO.
 
Looks like Tony distanced himself self from the cruise idea too, not sure if it because of logistics though.
Purely the logistics angle. It fucked things up for booking the last time AEW fully participated, injuries couldn’t be covered by switching people out because those people were on a boat in the Caribbean.

It would either have to be a situation where they do the show from the ship, which was a massive undertaking, or bow out of participating, which is a lot easier and cheaper.
 
What did Val Venis do to piss off the troons? Did he change the beginning of his theme music to "Hello Biological Ladies" or something?
If I'm not mistaken he posted a short video on his website where he said exactly those words after Nyla Rose won the belt.
And stay up all night to make sure Shawn Michaels was still breathing and hadn't overdosed on pills.
So it's his fault that Shawn Michaels is still alive? There's another reason Bret Hart hates him.
Oh, Summerslam is this weekend? I honestly haven't been in the loop with wrestling.


That's fucking grim.
Yeah they went from completely raping their fans on ticket prices to selling them for $25 dollars and they still can't move the fucking things.
 
The only good decision that I have heard WWE make recently is making Austin theory more prevalent in his group and stop trying to make Maxine a wrestler and making her arm candy for a heel Austin Theory.
She's a bad wrestler but she's a piece of ass who can probably get the crowd riled up to hate Austin More and that's exactly what she should be doing.
 
I mean, I agree, but also consider that his entire career was after his back was broken in a plane crash. Hell, just for reference, behold - Flair pre plane crash, 1975

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Guy went from living and training with Ken Patera to the Nature Boy we all know. Its also why he never took a flat back bump, I don’t think his body could actually handle it. Why he stayed in Wrestling if his back was that fucked is anyones guess, I think it just has something to do with Wrestlers being about 2 Steps from all being Lolcows…
And this is Flair post crash. Flair.jpg
Does he look flabby next to lean freaks like Lugar, Warrior or Rude? Most people do, yeah. But Flair compared to the average guy was a monster. Not many guys walking around at 230+ of muscle.
I am supposed to take this guy seriously against a giant like Bruiser Brody or a muscle bound freak like Lex Luger?
You know it's a work, right? Otherwise Kurt would have been the world Champ until he retired or got injured.
 
You know it's a work, right? Otherwise Kurt would have been the world Champ until he retired or got injured.
Looking at the roster through the AE through now, we may have only had like, 4 different people be Champions if Wrestling was legit. Something like, dealers choice between Severn and Shamrock, then Kurt, then Brock. It's sorta like how if Wrestling was Legit the Big Show would probably have the most Royal Rumble wins in history.

I stand by saying it, but the actual Wrestling is maybe the 5th most important part about Pro Wrestling.
 
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